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Politics and Current Events / Re: Comey
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-asked-intelligence-chiefs-to-push-back-against-fbi-collusion-probe-after-comey-revealed-its-existence/2017/05/22/394933bc-3f10-11e7-9869-bac8b446820a_story.html

omg HOW DUMB ARE THEY

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President Trump asked two of the nation's top intelligence officials in March to help him push back against an FBI investigation into possible coordination between his campaign and the Russian government, according to current and former officials.

Trump made separate appeals to the director of national intelligence, Daniel Coats, and to Adm. Michael S. Rogers, the director of the National Security Agency, urging them to publicly deny the existence of any evidence of collusion during the 2016 election.

Coats and Rogers refused to comply with the requests, which they both deemed to be inappropriate, according to two current and two former officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private communications with the president.

Trump sought the assistance of Coats and Rogers after FBI Director James B. Comey told the House Intelligence Committee on March 20 that the FBI was investigating "the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia's efforts."

Trump's conversation with Rogers was documented contemporaneously in an internal memo written by a senior NSA official, according to the officials. It is unclear if a similar memo was prepared by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence to document Trump's conversation with Coats. Officials said such memos could be made available to both the special counsel now overseeing the Russia investigation and congressional investigators, who might explore whether Trump sought to impede the FBI's work.

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In addition to the requests to Coats and Rogers, senior White House officials sounded out top intelligence officials about the possibility of intervening directly with Comey to encourage the FBI to drop its probe of Michael Flynn, Trump's former national security adviser, according to people familiar with the matter. The officials said the White House appeared uncertain about its power to influence the FBI.

"Can we ask him to shut down the investigation? Are you able to assist in this matter?" one official said of the line of questioning from the White House.
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look at this stupid elmer fudd motherfucker:



"In theory that may be true."

golly why don't you test that theory mister

eta lol remember back during the women's march when conservatives were all, "these dumb broads in vagina hats balhblahblah but what about women in SAUDI ARABIA, huh? they can't even protest like these lazy dumb bitches, checkmate libtards!". i wonder what they're up to now. :awgee:
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msnbc is probably as bad as fox.  that's about it.

lol msnbc hired greta van susteren and hugh fucking hewitt and is getting rid of lawrence o'donnell jesus christ how thick can you be
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Jabba Is Dead
I mean, lol, a teenage boy is scary, but that is quite the classy eulogy

also eww he had a teenage son? men are gross
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Jabba Is Dead
In case anyone needed a reminder that these are garbage people:

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Politics and Current Events / Re: Comey
https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-james-comey-told-me-about-donald-trump

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While I do not know how many incidents we're talking about, how severe they were, or their particular character, I do know this: Comey understood Trump's people as having neither knowledge of nor respect for the independence of the law enforcement function. And he saw it as an ongoing task on his part to protect the rest of the Bureau from improper contacts and interferences from a group of people he did not regard as honorable. This was a general preoccupation of Comey's in the months he and Trump overlapped--and the difference between this relationship and his regard for Obama (which was deep) was profound and palpable.

Second, Comey described at least two incidents which he regarded as efforts on the part of the President personally to compromise him or implicate him with either shows of closeness or actual chumminess with the President.

The first incident he told me about was the infamous "hug" from Trump after the inauguration:

The hug took place at a White House meeting to which Trump had invited law enforcement leadership to thank them for their role in the inauguration. Comey described really not wanting to go to that meeting, for the same reason he later did not want to go to the private dinner with Trump: the FBI director should be always at arm's length from the President, in his view. There was an additional sensitivity here too, because many Democrats blamed Comey for Trump's election, so he didn't want any shows of closeness between the two that might reinforce a perception that he had put a thumb on the scale in Trump's favor. But he also felt that he could not refuse a presidential invitation, particularly not one that went to a broad array of law enforcement leadership. So he went. But as he told me the story, he tried hard to blend into the background and avoid any one-on-one interaction. He was wearing a blue blazer and noticed that the drapes were blue. So he stood in the back, right in front of the drapes, hoping Trump wouldn't notice him camouflaged against the wall. If you look at the video, Comey is standing about as far from Trump as it is physically possible to be in that room.

And for a long time, he reported, Trump didn't seem to notice him. The meeting was nearly over, he said, and he really thought he was going to get away without an individual interaction. But when you're six foot, eight inches tall, it's hard to blend in forever, and Trump ultimately singled him out--and did so with the most damning faint praise possible: "Oh, and there's Jim. He's become more famous than me!"

Comey took the long walk across the room determined, he told me, that there was not going to be a hug. Bad enough that he was there; bad enough that there would be a handshake; he emphatically did not want any show of warmth.

Again, look at the video, and you'll see Comey preemptively reaching out to shake hands. Trump grabs his hand and attempts an embrace. The embrace, however, is entirely one sided.

Comey was disgusted. He regarded the episode as a physical attempt to show closeness and warmth in a fashion calculated to compromise him before Democrats who already mistrusted him.


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Anyway, this idea that Trump is not dangerous and has been neutralized is a bad premise. The whole flapping his alternative sphincter about ISIS intelligence and subsequently setting off a chain of world events should prove that theory wrong.
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I think not impeaching trump simply because "pence" is a terrible way to approach the decision of whether someone is an absolute disgrace unfit to be president of the united states of America.

you mean you don't want trump to keep damaging everything and maybe fucking nuking someone on a goddamn whim just because we need to give the ever so competent and great at doing things democrats the chance to engineer a president pelosi scenario? what's wrong with you man
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Science / Re: Charles Murray and Sam Harris
:sadyes:
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Science / Charles Murray and Sam Harris
https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/5/18/15655638/charles-murray-race-iq-sam-harris-science-free-speech

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Finally, let us consider Sam Harris and his willingness to endorse Murray's claims -- his decision to suspend the skepticism and tough-mindedness we have come to expect from him. There is a fairly widespread intellectual movement among center-right social theorists and pundits to argue that strong adherence to the scientific method commits us to following human science wherever it goes -- and they mean something very specific in this context. They say we must move from hard-nosed science of intelligence and genetics all the way -- only if that's the direction data and logical, unbiased interpretation lead, naturally -- to genetically based differences in behavior among races.

Moreover, a reflexive defense of free academic inquiry has prompted some to think it a mark of scientific objectivity to look at cognitive differences in the eye without blinking. To deny the possibility of a biological basis of group differences, they suggest, is to allow "moral panic," as Harris puts it, to block objective scientific judgment. But passively allowing oneself to be led into unfounded genetic conclusions about race and IQ is hardly a mark of rational tough-mindedness. The fact is, there is no evidence for any such genetic hypothesis -- about complex human behavior of any kind. Anyone who speaks as if there were is spouting junk science.
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I mean, it probably was a joke because it would be way to perfect for narrative. But think about it, Putin probably knows quite a few American Oligarchs who buy politicians. This could be the plot of a crazy james bond type movie
I read the comment as neither joke, nor 100% serious, but as hyperbole.  like "these guys are so russia-friendly, they might as well be on putin's payroll!"

It sounded like hyperbole to me. What's most fucking annoying though is that the conversation reveals how much of a shitheel little cynical bastard weasel Paul Ryan is, talking about how obviously Russia was using propaganda to undermine Ukraine and the West. But as soon as Trump got the nomination, that piece of shit fell right in line, didn't he? All for his childhood dream of hurting poor people.

What a despicable asshole.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse


Also: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article151149647.html

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One of the Trump administration's first decisions about the fight against the Islamic State was made by Michael Flynn weeks before he was fired - and it conformed to the wishes of Turkey, whose interests, unbeknownst to anyone in Washington, he'd been paid more than $500,000 to represent.

The decision came 10 days before Donald Trump had been sworn in as president, in a conversation with President Barack Obama's national security adviser, Susan Rice, who had explained the Pentagon's plan to retake the Islamic State's de facto capital of Raqqa with Syrian Kurdish forces whom the Pentagon considered the U.S.'s most effective military partners. Obama's national security team had decided to ask for Trump's sign-off, since the plan would all but certainly be executed after Trump had become president.

Flynn didn't hesitate. According to timelines distributed by members of Congress in the weeks since, Flynn told Rice to hold off, a move that would delay the military operation for months.
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big question in my mind - the answer's not immediately clear from reports, afaict - is whether Rosenstein did this unilaterally, as many of us had hoped he would; or if this was a coordinated, planned decision with the consent of the president, and the reason Rosenstein is the one making the announcement is just that sessions is recused

Pure speculation on my part - I have a feeling Rosenstein did this on his own, in part to make up for these bunch of incompetent asshole clowns putting him in a position where he basically had to flush his integrity down the toilet.
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/05/17/justice-department-hands-trump-russia-probe-to-special-counsel

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The Department of Justice announced on Wednesday evening former FBI director Robert Mueller will serve as a special counsel to oversee the FBI's investigation of the Russian government's efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election.

The investigation will also examine "related matters," according to a release--indicating Mueller will look at possible collusion between Trump campaign officials and the Russian government.

It's an official concession from the Justice Department that the Russian intervention in the 2016 presidential election was an extraordinary circumstance, and that bringing in an outsider to oversee the investigation is in the public interest. Rod Rosenstein, the second-in-command at the Justice Department, made the decision. That's because he oversees the Russia investigation, due to Attorney General Jeff Sessions' recusing himself from it.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
A bunch of reporters (HuffPo, Daily Beast, MSNBC) are saying there's "big news" coming "shortly."

:hmm:

eta DOJ has appointed Mueller (former FBI director) as special counsel in the Russia probe

eta2 and here I was hoping someone had a stroke
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
Also murdering an inmate in his jail via dehydration and also a baby that was born in his jail via neglect.

He's an immensely awful person, and this is a non-Senate confirmed position.

Also this: http://fox6now.com/2014/07/07/fox6-investigation-prompts-a-lawsuit-crash-victim-filing-federal-suit-against-sheriff-clarke-others/

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MILWAUKEE (WITI) -- Accused of a cover-up, Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke and four of his deputies are named as co-defendants in a federal civil rights lawsuit -- and it all started with a FOX6 investigation that garnered national attention. A sober driver was arrested for drunk driving in February of 2013 -- and she's still fighting back.

When a Sheriff's deputy T-boned her car last year, Tanya Weyker suffered more than a broken neck. She suffered the indignity of a false arrest for driving while intoxicated.

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Video from an airport surveillance camera eventually proved that Deputy Quiles never stopped before turning onto Howell Avenue -- as he claimed in his report.

The Sheriff's Office knew about the video two days after the crash, but the drunk driving case continued for 10 months before a prosecutor finally decided to file formal charges.

"A video that exonerated Ms. Weyker was sat on for months and months until the good work of FOX 6," Erickson said.

The lawsuit filed in federal court accuses Sheriff Clarke, Deputy Quiles and three other deputies of engaging in a cover-up of Deputy Quiles' role in causing the crash by falsely arresting Weyker for driving while intoxicated.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Comey
Fresh out of the hot take kitchen!

"If Comey didn't report obstruction of justice right away, he committed a crime."

Seems a little desperate when your defense includes an admission that it was indeed obstruction of justice. :dogpipe:
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US banks already haven't wanted to touch him for years because his business dealings are so shady.

Yeah, and his org has been fined for being involved in money laundering. His businesses have ties to the fucking mafia, and that's just the shit that's literally out in the open. There is no way that's all surviving intact if people do their fucking jobs and investigate, and Kushner's empire might come down along with it.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
Oh, lol: https://www.propublica.org/article/any-half-decent-hacker-could-break-into-mar-a-lago

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The risks posed by the lax security, experts say, go well beyond simple digital snooping. Sophisticated attackers could take advantage of vulnerabilities in the Wi-Fi networks to take over devices like computers or smart phones and use them to record conversations involving anyone on the premises.