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Messages - meepmeep

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If this guy hadn't died, he'd be in fucking jail:

https://www.statnews.com/2017/11/21/herpes-vaccine-hotel-rooms/

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hree years before launching an offshore herpes vaccine trial, an American researcher vaccinated patients in U.S. hotel rooms in brazen violation of U.S. law, a Kaiser Health News investigation has found.

Southern Illinois University associate professor William Halford administered the shots himself at a Holiday Inn Express and a Crowne Plaza Hotel that were a 15-minute drive from the researcher's SIU lab. Halford injected at least eight herpes patients on four separate occasions in the summer and fall of 2013 with a virus that he created, according to emails from seven participants and interviews with one participant.

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Since Halford's death in June, several participants who received the vaccine in 2013 and 2016 have told KHN they have informed the university about what they fear may be side effects from the vaccine.

One participant who says he received the injections in Illinois fears that the vaccine, which contains a live virus, may have given him a new and different type of herpes he did not have, a scenario that experts who reviewed his medical details for KHN said was possible.

In recent weeks, that participant from Texas and a woman from Colorado who took part in the St. Kitts trial have separately electronically reported to the FDA their possible side effects, also known as "adverse events."

They said SIU and the FDA have not adequately addressed their inquiries.

"It makes me angry that Halford went ahead with the offshore trial anyway," said the man from Texas who did not want to be publicly identified because of the sensitive nature of his disease. "I hope more people weren't hurt."
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I was honestly going to complain about the lack of Celtic folk music on the last one bc I've really been enjoying Julie Fowlis's new album.
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democracy guardian dot com
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reminding everyone for no particular reason that the GOP let CHIP expire, and millions of children will be losing access to healthcare as states run out of money
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I don't think this is the only possible was to interpret her statement. Pointing out the problems in teeth's analogy does not lessen the horribleness in what the Trump election says about america.

she has repeatedly said liberals are being worse, try to keep up :mason:
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I'm still trying to understand how liberals are better at being shitheaded retards than conservatives are.

they say mean things which is worse than the active destruction of government functions and democratic norms and blatant fucking corruption and literally supporting a pedophile and cruel punitive deportations and all those other awesome things currently happening

ugh libs are so smarmy *shoots self in the dick, grins*
Shithead activities:

Lauding and supporting the suppression of free speech from people with whom they disagree
Supporting and calling for the normalization of political violence on the basis of belief
Condoning the abandonment of rule of law, as long as the target of vigilante "justice" is deemed to be "evil" by their standards

Conservatives have always been the Roman Catholic Church.  Liberals are trying to up the ante and become the Spanish Inquisition.



you really truly believe this is actually what people are doing and you also really truly believe it's more horrible than the other things currently happening and that is why talking to you about this shit is an absolute waste of time
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Here's a nobody getting some press:



Reminded me of a grad student who got arrested when I was in college. My roommate and I used to refer to him as Mr. Mittens:

https://nypost.com/2005/04/07/princeton-student-a-math-whiz/

eta in retrospect some really weird bizarro shit went down at Princeton back in the day
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I'm still trying to understand how liberals are better at being shitheaded retards than conservatives are.

they say mean things which is worse than the active destruction of government functions and democratic norms and blatant fucking corruption and literally supporting a pedophile and cruel punitive deportations and all those other awesome things currently happening

ugh libs are so smarmy *shoots self in the dick, grins*
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Keeping America safe:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/immigrant-to-trump-administration-my-wife-has-cancer-let-me-stay-in-america

Super safe, actually:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-administration-to-end-provisional-residency-protection-for-50000-haitians/2017/11/20/fa3fdd86-ce4a-11e7-9d3a-bcbe2af58c3a_story.html

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More than half the Haitians affected by Monday's announcement live in Florida, where lawmakers had asked that they be allowed to remain. The lawmakers cited ongoing economic and political difficulties in Haiti, the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere, as well as a still-raging cholera epidemic.

"I traveled to Haiti after the earthquake in 2010 and after hurricane Matthew in 2016. So I can personally attest that Haiti is not prepared to take back nearly 60,000 TPS recipients under these difficult and harsh conditions," said Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (Fla.), one of several GOP lawmakers who joined Democratic leaders in chastising the decision on Twitter. Ros-Lehtinen is co-sponsoring a bipartisan bill that would extend TPS for Haitians and others.


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stop being better at being horrible than the horrible choice!

shit like this is why i can't justify taking the time to respond more seriously
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The urban poor are cast as victims.  They are stuck in a cycle of poverty that is intergenerational with long-lasting effects.  They can't break out of that cycle themselves - they need our help!  It's not their fault!

The rural poor are cast as villains.  They're determined to make bad decisions fueled by their ignorance and their hick ways.  They don't have the hutzpah to just move to a better place.  They don't deserve our help.  They're responsible for their decisions.

on a scale of 1-10, how high are you right now?
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I'm sure a literal admitted rapist and abuser like Mike Cernovich deeply cares about going after aexual harassers.
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But if you happen to be fond of trees, or gardens, or home-cooked meals, or a back-yard, or a dog that doesn't fit in a purse, or the sound of the wind instead of cars, or the occasional bunny rabbit or dear being visible outside of a zoo... Yeah, not so much.
I just wanted to point out that I live walking distance from downtown Philadelphia--a city with twice the population of Seattle--and my neighborhood has trees, gardens, home-cooked meals, backyards, and no shortage of large dogs. I have also seen the occasional bunny in Philly and my wife once saw a deer in a nearby park. I think you may want to extract that cartoon image of cities from your head, because most city dwellers are not living in the kind of dystopian, Blade Runner setting that you think they are.

I'm a few blocks from Clark Park, and my neighborhood is full of dogs. My dog has been getting reactive on leash, so I try to avoid other dogs on the street, and if I walk him at certain hours, it's impossible for me to go a block without running into another dog.

Anyway, this doesn't compare to the quiet and greenery of some other areas, and I basically hate my shitty neighborhood for other reasons, but there are trees, gardens, and lots of critters in cities. I may not see horsies everywhere like when I go out to Chester County, but cities have wildlife. Philly has a variety of small mammals, birds, coyotes, fish, little garden snake buddies, deer, etc. in addition to the more common city wildlife like pigeons, mice, and raccoons. Oh and there's literally a national wildlife refuge 5 miles from my apartment.

I'm not the biggest fan of city living, but it is more efficient, more sustainable, and more cost effective to have more densely populated settlements. The things that make individual cities or neighborhoods suck have more to do with bad planning and shitty local politics.
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John Conyers previously settled a wrongful dismissal case involving sexual harassment: https://www.buzzfeed.com/paulmcleod/she-complained-that-a-powerful-congressman-harassed-her
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand Charlie Rose:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/eight-women-say-charlie-rose-sexually-harassed-them--with-nudity-groping-and-lewd-calls/2017/11/20/9b168de8-caec-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html

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Eight women have told The Washington Post that longtime television host Charlie Rose made unwanted sexual advances toward them, including lewd phone calls, walking around naked in their presence, or groping their breasts, buttocks or genital areas.

The women were employees or aspired to work for Rose at the "Charlie Rose" show from the late 1990s to as recently as 2011. They ranged in age from 21 to 37 at the time of the alleged encounters. Rose, 75, whose show airs on PBS, also co-hosts "CBS This Morning" and is a contributing correspondent for "60 Minutes."

There are striking commonalities in the accounts of the women, each of whom described their interactions with Rose in multiple interviews with The Post. For all of the women, reporters interviewed friends, colleagues or family members who said the women had confided in them about aspects of the incidents. Three of the eight spoke on the record.

I wonder who tomorrow's shitbag is going to be!
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I keep thinking back to Schroedinger's rapist and how angry lots of dudes got about that piece.
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u mad bro?
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I'd imagine it's predominantly Jewish men because Jewish men are demographically over represented in the Hollywood power structure and Hollywood is still one of the most insular and unaccountable industries out there. There's just way too much fear of reprisal for rando underling to go to HR and file a complaint.

also no one gives a shit or hears about it when men in other industries are exposed
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Demanding the benefits of modern society = demanding the coal industry be artificially propped up and magically brought back at the rest of the world's expense while also refusing any retraining that would equip people to work in modern society

also lmbo at "nearly un-subsidized" still
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Idgaf about people living old fashioned rural lives but what I do gaf about is when those people demand their lifestyle and no one else's be subsidized.
Lol... Okay, now that I'm done giggling...

Why don't we take a look at the impact of city-based legislation within states?  ALL of WA is now paying for a high-speed rail that will serve a very small portion of WA.  The entirety of Eastern WA gets slapped with all sorts of cost-burdens, so that urban-dwellers in the very tiny footprint of Seattle can have better lives.  There are all sorts of state-assisted programs available for the poor as long as they live in cities - if they live in rural areas, well fuck-em.  They don't count, they're backwards ignorant hillbillies who don't deserve the assistance of their urban betters  ::)

For fuck's sake, do you have any idea at all exactly how much assistance and revenue goes to helping cities?  Do you have any idea how little of any kind of assistance goes to rural areas?

And you want to blather on about how it's so uppity of those nearly un-subsidized people in "fly-over" areas to demand that they should have some of the benefits of a modern society too!  How dare they! 

lol
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lol now we know why Glenn Thrush quit Twitter, though he probably should've just deactivated his account without making a big deal out of it:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/20/16678094/glenn-thrush-new-york-times

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Three young women I interviewed, including the young woman who met Thrush in June, described to me a range of similar experiences, from unwanted groping and kissing to wet kisses out of nowhere to hazy sexual encounters that played out under the influence of alcohol. Each woman described feeling differently about these experiences: scared, violated, ashamed, weirded out. I was -- and am -- angry.

Details of their stories suggest a pattern. All of the women were in their 20s at the time. They were relatively early in their careers compared to Thrush, who was the kind of seasoned journalist who would be good to know. At an event with alcohol, he made advances. Afterward, they (as I did) thought it best to stay on good terms with Thrush, whatever their feelings.

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On that night five years ago, I joined Thrush and a handful of other reporters for a few rounds at the Continental, a Politico hangout in Rosslyn, Virginia. At first, nothing seemed strange, until the crowd had dwindled down to Thrush, me, and one other female colleague.

Thrush tossed a $20 bill at her and told her to take a cab and leave us, "the grown-ups," alone. He slid into my side of the booth, blocking me in. I was wearing a skirt, and he put his hand on my thigh. He started kissing me. I pulled myself together and got out of there, shoving him on my way out.

In the morning, Thrush sent me an apologetic email. I didn't save it, but I recall it as similar to the one he would later send to PadrĂ³ Ocasio's friend in June. He said he was sorry, but he didn't say for what, exactly.

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Gradually, things in the office started to change for me. Certain men in the newsroom, I thought, started to look at me differently. Some of their comments seemed a bit too familiar or were outright offensive. I had a nagging sense that I just wasn't as respected as I used to be.

I started to think maybe I shouldn't be in journalism if I couldn't hang in a tough newsroom. I found myself on edge, nervous and anxious all the time. I started to believe I had brought this all on myself.

In the course of reporting this story, I was told by a male reporter who'd worked at Politico at the time that my instinct was right. He said that the day after that night at the bar, Thrush told him about the incident, except with the roles reversed. I had come onto him, the reporter said Thrush told him, and he had gently shut it down.

For those keeping score at home, basically, if men openly talk about women in disparaging terms or dismiss harassment or abuse, that's a warning sign that they're a piece of shit, and you should stay away from them. If men openly talk about supporting women and acknowledge the struggles they face, they may also be a piece of shit, and you should stay away from them. Also if you're ever afraid or if you have any issues trusting men, you're a crazy fucking bitch.