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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
It's almost like lawyers will argue either side depending on who's paying them.
Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
You don't think Trump will preemptively pardon everyone?

faketa: I guess not, he'll throw some under the bus if it's in his own interest.
iirc, here are the whip counts (known or estimated) they got for various proposals in the past

just repeal:  < 40
repeal and replace later:  < 40
repeal and replace (various senate compromises): < 50
repeal and replace w house bill:  worse than ^^

Vote 1 failed 43-57.  This included the Cruz amendment allowing Insurance companies to offer shittier plans and also added $100B to Medicaid.
Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
Let the 20 hour countdown begin.  There are at least 3 votes for "established" bills already on the table (repeal, repeal/replace, repeal light) and possibly one more vote to just accept the house version.

If just one of those passes then this just went from sad to sadistic.
What's with the 20 hour thing?  Someone was on CNN saying they don't expect a final vote on this anytime soon, possibly as late as September.
True to form, McCain is speaking out against shitty partisan politics (even though he voted for the MTP)

It was actually a pretty good speech.  He wants to find a bipartisan solution. He was emphatic that even though he voted for the MTP, he would not vote for the current bill.
True to form, McCain is speaking out against shitty partisan politics (even though he voted for the MTP)
They are doing a roll call vote.  I thought I heard McCain and Johnson both as aye.
McCain just walked in; let the bipartisan love fest begin.
CNN is now predicting that they have the votes.
Apparently, what they've voting on really agreeing to with this vote is the strategy of how they move forward.

i.e. if it passes, everyone will get their shot:
1st vote will be the current bill.
Once that fails, they'll vote on repeal only (this is why Rand has flipped to yes)
once that fails, then Cruz gets his shot (which for whatever reason needs 60 votes to pass)
once that fails, then whatever alternative bills will be presented

I'm sure I have details wrong, but that's the general idea.
I don't know why we're pretending to be in suspense. The republicans will pass it.

It is known.

Would McCain drag his ass back to DC if they weren't?
Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
Scouts in the midwest is so lame in comparison  :smith:

It comes down to the individual troop as well as the location. Our troop was big into backpacking and (for the older kids) mountaineering. Not nearly as big on promotions. Other local troops were more into car-camping then backpacking so you learn very different skills.  eta: Now that I think about, the mountaineering focus was really due to just one adult. He was the former Scoutmaster, and when his son aged out, he continued to be the adult who led the climbs every summer.  I'm pretty sure that when he died/retired/moved away or whatever that troop probably quit climbing.  Hahaha, I don't even know if the BSA offered a climbing/mountaineering merit badge. If they did, I never earned it.

After we moved to Florida, the troop my brother joined was big on promotions (nearly everyone made eagle if they stayed in) but not so big on backpacking.  Camping sucks in Florida other than a few months out of the year. I guess they did regular merit badge classes, where with my troop in Seattle, that was not the primary focus.
Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
I never smoked weed in scouts.

The Bowline knot has never come in handy. 
The square knot is very useful and I may have actually learned that one (or at least had it massively reinforced) in scouts.
Clove Hitch I learned from tying a rowboat to the dock, nothing to do with scouts.

I did climb Rainier and Baker, never would have done that had it not been for scouts, so that's cool.
I thought that quote came from every freshman chem lab student.
We don't have wandering door to door Baptists or Evangelicals. Just JWs and the rare young Mormons on their missionary year.

We had Mormon kids back during my first marriage.  The ex let them in the house shortly before I got home. When I walked in and realized who it was I opened a beer.
Jesus Christ, so Gary was the right choice after all?
If I see them coming, I just ignore them. 
JWs or old fat nude people?

Door-to-door proselytizers.

I'm an old fat (and occasionally nude) person, kind of hard to avoid myself.
Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
Wait, it was subtle once?
If I see them coming, I just ignore them.  But I was sort of expecting someone else, so I opened the door before I realized who it was.
Bye bye Spicy.

Rollin Rollin Rollin

I though about putting Spicer here, but I think that's completely unrelated to the OP. 
I answered the door before realizing who was there this morning.  A very nicely dressed black couple who very politely eased into the above question.

I answered that I didn't care to discuss religion with them, and they were polite enough to not press it too much.  He did ask "Is it because we're Jehovah's Witnesses?"  I hadn't even realized that, but gave them more or less the same answer. I guess in my racism I think all black religious people are either Baptists or evangelicals.
Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
"So, if the president says it--let me do more research on it--my guess is that there's probably some level of truth to that,"
Science / Detecting diseases from your breath?

We report on an artificially intelligent nanoarray based on molecularly modified gold nanoparticles and a random network of single-walled carbon nanotubes for noninvasive diagnosis and classification of a number of diseases from exhaled breath. The performance of this artificially intelligent nanoarray was clinically assessed on breath samples collected from 1404 subjects having one of 17 different disease conditions included in the study or having no evidence of any disease (healthy controls). Blind experiments showed that 86% accuracy could be achieved with the artificially intelligent nanoarray, allowing both detection and discrimination between the different disease conditions examined....