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American Psycho

Holy shit this is so self sytrical.  Dexter meets Mad Men meets Wall Street.  80s awesome.

welcome to a hundred years ago!
Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
What's the movie that seriously involves air traffic controllers? i'ts apparently not Tin Cup or Happy Gilmore. So what is it?

billy bob thornton is in it.

eta nm, someone beat me to it
"multinational corporations"
Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
small business owners nearly without exception are some of the worst people i've ever met.

the exceptions tend to be liberals who use the cred that our atrocious political culture grants to small business owners in order to score points for good policy but also might be like self-employed artists and shit

"nearly without exception" is pretty accurate.  I know a few that are generally alright politically, and some that are fairly liberal, but even in that group there are some that fall into line when it comes to "taxes on business are too high" and "regulation kills prosperity" crap
Politics and Current Events / Re: Marine Le Pen
I think we can all agree that el geoffo can go fuck himself.
Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse


i really liked this part

And here is where the alt-right and the alt-left press foreheads for a Vulcan mind-meld: the belief that the real enemy, the true Evil Empire, isn't Putin's Russia but the Deep State, the C.I.A./F.B.I./N.S.A. alphabet-soup national-security matrix. But if the Deep State can rid us of the blighted presidency of Donald Trump, all I can say is "Go, State, go."

yeah those crazy alt-left fuckers, now let me talk about how excited i am at the prospect of our intel agencies taking down an elected official.

even if you want trump gone badly, that's not really an outcome to enthusiastically cheer on.

if he is legitimately a stooge of a foreign government, the whole system is already compromised so

but if it's just shady shit where he's going to profit personally and implement shitty policies, no a coup by the intelligence community is not a good thing

Lol liberals

Yet another individual directly involved in Donald Trump's Russia scandal has dropped dead under suspicious circumstances, and for the first time, the deceased is a United States citizen. Alex Oronov, one of the organizers of a plot that had the Kremlin pressuring Trump to oust the president of the Ukraine, has died. Palmer Report has determined that Oronov lived in Donald Trump's building.

Alex Oronov was the individual who arranged a meeting between Donald Trump's attorney Michael Cohen and Trump's Russian former business partner Felix Sater, with the assistance of Russian-controlled Ukrainian politician Andrey Artemenko. That meeting resulted in Cohen delivering a Kremlin-backed proposal to National Security Adviser Michael Flynn's office just before he resigned. The plan involved Donald Trump using Russian blackmail to force out the president of Ukraine, so Artemenko could become president and give Crimea to Russia.

Artemenko announced that Oronov is dead, and he blames the death on the plot becoming public knowledge. The implication seems to be that Vladimir Putin and Russia had Oronov killed after he was outed as a conspirator by the media. It turns out Oronov had direct ties to Donald Trump. Business Insider and Talking Points Memo first reported on the fact that Oronov had died. Palmer Report's own research team has since determined that Oronov lived in the Trump Hollywood building.

Is this story legit?
Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
I believe they are under oath.
Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
Hey here's a question. So your DNC has just elected a chair who is apparently more of the same, passing over the candidate who seemed to be doing a good job of uniting the whole lot. Which indicates that they're learned nothing and will continue to do the same thing while expecting different results.

Christ, this whole situation is fucking stupid for multiple reasons.

#1 - who chairs the DNC is not nearly as fucking important as everyone seems to think it is right now.
#2 - Tom Perez is not some centrist corporate Democrat. He's well to the left of your typical House Democrat.
#3 - There were hardly any differences between what Perez and Ellison were both saying they want to do.
#4 - Even if you think Tom Perez is not left enough, he fucking picked Ellison as second in command.
#5 - If the party platform is the problem, welp, the one for the 2016 election was the most progressive one we've had in history, so...

I'm so sick to death of all this idiocy over :sparkles: ideological purity :sparkles: . Either one of them would've been a good enough choice for the chair position. People walking out, throwing tantrums, and threatening to quit the party need to get a fucking grip already.

This is correct
Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
It's almost as if people who voted for trump are morons
Allegedly some breitbart staff are threatening to quit if he is not fired
Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
Maybe by sabotage they're referring to this

Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
and he would even do that
Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
Recently read an article to this effect.  From one of the writers of the current dsm think

If I'm thinking of the same letter you are, that was about NPD, not dementia.

I'm not claiming he has dementia. Just that his problems with language sound more like cognitive deficits to me than garden variety idiocy.

Yes, it was the same one.  But I think a similar principle applies here.  I'm remembering liberals diagnosing George W as a dry drunk, for example. 

Eta im perfectly comfortable with diagnosing him with npd, myself
Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
gonna push back a little on some of the armchair dementia diagnoses.  I slightly educated myself on this a few years ago when an idiot former social worker tried to diagnose my mom with it based on a couple social conversations.

dementia ' s symptoms have a lot of overlap with other issues, and it is tricky to diagnose.  iirc the dsm says you have to do both a real psychiatric exam plus medical tests, to rule out other things.

something with similar symptoms is plain old stress.  trump is under a lot of it right now.  and in fact I think we have seen that the stupidity of what comes out of his mouth is largely a function of how much stress he's under at the moment.

Recently read an article to this effect.  From one of the writers of the current dsm think
I haven't started the second season because it didn't look so good, and the first season as kind of a letdown in the end
Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
Barely news anymore but still

I watched part of the joint press conference at the dentist.  trump did the usual israel dick - sucking that we see from american politicians.  one notable break, however, was when they were talking about a peace deal, and the need for compromise.  trump broke from his prepared remarks and turned to netanyahu and said something like "compromise means you have to give something too.  you understand that, right?"  seems even this moron sees the problem with netanyahu's position that he is all for compromise as long as all the concessions come from the other side.
He also said something along those lines in the early stages of the campaign, before he got coached on the issue. The dangers of relying on common sense to navigate GOP talking points...

The official Israeli position appears to be that the Palestinians were offered a fantastic peace deal, yet turned it down, though. So if it's that one statement it's probably easy to spin it later.
the official Israeli position was that they won't talk to the Palestinians until they recognize israel (which they have done for 20 years now, so...?) and that they prevent all terrorist attacks by Palestinians (an obviously impossible condition, especially for a badly underequipped Palestinian authority).  also, they have stubbornly refused to even slow down the settler movement, which is unacceptable to the palestinians and obviously undermines the peace process.  lastly, big picture, the Israelis keep saying no both to the 1-state and 2-state solutions, which are the only logical possibilities that involve the palestinians staying where they are and getting full political rights.

after years of games, it looked like obama might be willing and able to put the necessary pressure on the Israelis to make something happen.  but when he didn't get results, the Palestinians understandably gave up on both the US and Israel and went to the UN.  and there they have finally been getting results.

except, "jewish state"
Bill Clinton basically kicked the can down the road on gay rights and his crime policy was terrible for minority communities. Instead he focused on economic issues that would alleviate concerns of everyday americans, which at the time was consumer protection and cheaper consumer goods. Consumer protection was a huge issue for independents, especially Nader voters.
i'm still kinda not following you

Lol, but you'll keep trying
Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
did she complain about how you can't get good tea in America?
Remember, people hate Obamacare but love the aca
Where's Glenn Greenwald with his dumb red baiting shit
He won't be able to stay away long
I'm guessing Obama left office with this strategy:

*crosses arms behind head, waits*