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Quote from: Dave
"Mobile colony" ... not "rabbit tractor"

SMH

But that also gives results.


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We rebuilt a mobile chicken pen to a rabbit tractor, I have the 4 meat does in it and they have been sleeping there and it has kept them safe, even with the hungry dogs and opossums that the game camera has caught sniffing them out. It has a large wire bottomed box inside the pen with straw, their feed, and water, that I close them in at night. During the day I let them out into the rest of the pen to go in the sun and be on the ground and loose some weight, they are FAT. They are learning to eat grass but have yet to learn to burrow (probably too fat). I have been putting the two breeding does with the meat does outside during the day and back in their cage at night, for safety since I am not watching them at night and they are larger and would take up more space in the sheltered box. Maybe it is just because I am handling them more, but they seem to be less docile. My rabbits do NOT like to be handled, I swear I am sweet to them. Today my largest doe, who is super chill, loving to lay in the sun, bit me through two shirts to break the skin when moving her back into her cage. She would of taken a chunk out of me had I no protection. She tries to bite me anytime I hold her. I've watched videos on how to handle rabbits, but Shelia a large overweight heavy breathing, in furry and rage, want's to kill me.
-https://permies.com/t/34397/critters/cages-community
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Guys. GIA is a white supremacist.

"The white DNA is the most advance and I just think it would be a shame to lose the best that the human race has produced to date." -Greatest Iam

He's really not worth acknowledging or responding to.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
Trump proclaims May 1 as 'Loyalty Day'
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The proclamation goes on to say that in order to express our country's loyalty to "individual liberties, to limited government, and to the inherent dignity of every human being," May 1 will be known as 'Loyalty Day.'

DaFuq???!

Hmmm. Says here and here Loyalty Day was already a thing, and has been since 1921 (although, I've never heard of it). It does sound like the exact sort of stupid thing Trump would make up, though.
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Actually it's about ethics in political leaning of on-campus speaker schedules

Speaking of which:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/15/tech/utah-anita-sarkeesian-threat/

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[Anita Sarkeesian] was supposed to deliver a speech to students Wednesday on the portrayal of women in video games, when someone sent an e-mail to several school staffers threatening "the deadliest school shooting in American history" if the event wasn't canceled.

According to the Standard-Examiner newspaper, the e-mail author, who claims to be a student, wrote, "Feminists have ruined my life and I will have my revenge, for my sake and the sake of all the others they've wronged."

Sarkeesian asked whether the school will forbid guns from the speech or do pat-downs. The school said it couldn't.
State law allows the carrying of guns in public places, it said.

"If a person has a valid concealed firearm permit and is carrying a weapon, they are permitted to have it at the venue," the school said in a statement to CNN.

So, Sarkeesian says, she had no choice but to cancel.

"They were going to have security, and they weren't going to allow backpacks. But they weren't going to have metal detectors," she told CNN.
Lol at any dumbass who thinks this threat was real.

See my various posts above.
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So let's just focus on the Sarkeesian example. I mean, right-wing folks are randomly murdering folks in a way left-wingers are certainly not, but either way. What do you think about folks shutting down Anita?
I think that the person who sent threats is despicable. If they are found, they should be charged with making terroristic threats.

I think that USU probably had close to the right policy - step up security, and allow the event to go through. I don't know specifics of how credible the threat was - iirc it wasn't considered that credible - so I don't know if the response was enough.

Fair enough. But they were going to let people with guns inside the event. Despite a clear precedent of right-wing gun violence. There was a deliberate attempt to intimidate a speaker, and it worked.
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So let's just focus on the Sarkeesian example. I mean, right-wing folks are randomly murdering folks in a way left-wingers are certainly not, but either way. What do you think about folks shutting down Anita?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Springs_Planned_Parenthood_shooting

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On November 27, 2015, a mass shooting occurred in a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs, Colorado, resulting in the deaths of three people and injuries to nine.[1][2] A police officer and two civilians were killed; five police officers and four civilians were injured.[3][4] After a standoff that lasted five hours,[1][5] police SWAT teams crashed armored vehicles into the lobby and the attacker surrendered.[6]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Isla_Vista_killings

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The attack began when Rodger stabbed three men to death in his apartment. Afterwards, he drove to a sorority house and shot three female students outside, killing two. He drove to a nearby deli and shot to death a male student who was inside. He began to speed through Isla Vista, shooting and wounding several pedestrians and striking several others with his car. Rodger exchanged gunfire with police twice during the attack, receiving a non-fatal gunshot to the hip. The rampage ended when his car crashed into a parked vehicle and came to a stop. Police found him dead in the car with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head.
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http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/charleston-church-shooting/charleston-shooter-dylann-roof-moved-death-row-terre-haute-federal-n749671

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Convicted church shooter Dylann Roof has been transferred to death row at Terre Haute Federal Prison in Indiana -- the facility that houses male inmates awaiting execution under the federal government.
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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/01/31/mosque-shooting-suspect-in-canada-known-for-far-right-views.html

(Sorry, I had to delete my original post, because it was from an initial report, which wrongfully insinuated the murderer was a Muslim. He wasn't.)
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I mean, I can provide recent(ish) examples of where right-wingers have actually murdered people, if you want.
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And how does not being able to invite Ann Coulter on a specific date mean shutting down the student group? That's quite the stretch. Can a student group only exist if it invites loud publicity-seeking celebrities to campus? Do you really believe that this many people would give a shit if this same group invited some boring person from a libertarian think tank or some lawyer to talk about the First Amendment?
It's not just Ann Coulter though. This is a strategy that works just as well against anyone that, say, the Republicans want to invite.

And yes, I do think that antifa could convince their members to violently protest some boring person from a libertarian think tank. They already did so for Charles Murray.

The Bell Curve is kinda well known.
That doesn't make Murray any less of "some boring person from a libertarian think tank".
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As it is, though, right-wingers have shut down left-wing speakers with threats of mass murder. Are you as worried about their attacks on free speech, as you are about those from antifa?
Other than the Sarkeesian one, I can't think of one recently off the top of my head. Mind providing examples?

Let's just go with the Sarkeesian one.
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And how does not being able to invite Ann Coulter on a specific date mean shutting down the student group? That's quite the stretch. Can a student group only exist if it invites loud publicity-seeking celebrities to campus? Do you really believe that this many people would give a shit if this same group invited some boring person from a libertarian think tank or some lawyer to talk about the First Amendment?
It's not just Ann Coulter though. This is a strategy that works just as well against anyone that, say, the Republicans want to invite.

And yes, I do think that antifa could convince their members to violently protest some boring person from a libertarian think tank. They already did so for Charles Murray.

The Bell Curve is kinda well known. As it is, though, right-wingers have shut down left-wing speakers with threats of mass murder. Are you as worried about their attacks on free speech, as you are about those from antifa?
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The problem is leftists just punch people. You're supposed to threaten people with guns, like the right does.
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Actually it's about ethics in political leaning of on-campus speaker schedules

Speaking of which:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/15/tech/utah-anita-sarkeesian-threat/

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[Anita Sarkeesian] was supposed to deliver a speech to students Wednesday on the portrayal of women in video games, when someone sent an e-mail to several school staffers threatening "the deadliest school shooting in American history" if the event wasn't canceled.

According to the Standard-Examiner newspaper, the e-mail author, who claims to be a student, wrote, "Feminists have ruined my life and I will have my revenge, for my sake and the sake of all the others they've wronged."

Sarkeesian asked whether the school will forbid guns from the speech or do pat-downs. The school said it couldn't.
State law allows the carrying of guns in public places, it said.

"If a person has a valid concealed firearm permit and is carrying a weapon, they are permitted to have it at the venue," the school said in a statement to CNN.

So, Sarkeesian says, she had no choice but to cancel.

"They were going to have security, and they weren't going to allow backpacks. But they weren't going to have metal detectors," she told CNN.
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Isn't this the 2nd time he's flip-flopped on Wikileaks? Politics is filled with cynical opportunists, almost by necessity of the trade, so it's pretty ironic that a former political outsider outdoes absolutely everyone in that dept. Or, maybe, it's exactly what you would expect, given he was elected.
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First, they tried to put civil war monuments in a museum, and I said nothing....
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2017/04/18/prosecutors-dismiss-more-than-19000-drug-cases-in-wake-of-mass-lab-chemists-misconduct/

I mean, I've seen plenty of instances of lying, cheating, or cutting corners, to fake demanded productivity, but when you're almost directly sending innocent people up the river by doing it? Holy shit. That takes some special antisocial disconnect.
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It's initial overhead. Eventually, Dave will be growing his own Bobcats.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Marine Le Pen
Quote from: Teeth!
Would these communities be safe harbor for refugees and undocumented migrants hiding from ICE? If not, then I could care less about them.

It's possible they would:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/27/pro-trump-town-riled-up-after-immigration-officials-arrest-popular-restaurant-manager.html

If only when it comes to protecting their own.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: opioid epidemic
Some 5 years ago, I read an article in my local paper about a heroin problem at the suburban school I went to. Apparently, some users/dealers had transferred there, and got other kids hooked. The school as a whole being especially susceptible, because most the kids there have some disposable income. I also read an article about Oxy being huge in Silicon Valley.

Growing up, though, opioids were never a thing, even among the more adventurous drug users I knew. Maybe I just barely ever heard about anyone using heroin, though, because I don't think it's really a social drug? I personally don't know anyone whose died from it, but I know a woman from Kentucky, who had at least one family member die of a heroin overdose. Hell, she accused me of using heroin on one occasion, because I didn't have any clean spoons at the house.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Marine Le Pen
I'd be surprised if most rural folk owned farms with expensive farming equipment. I have a lot of family who lives in the country, and none of them are farmers.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Marine Le Pen
People are kept illegal because racists are afraid of losing the white demographic majority. They are not kept illegal because "lol it keeps down wages" you fucking moron.

Jesus christ, I never said that was the only reason.

If you can't have a fucking calm discussion about this then fuck off.


The fact that undocumented migrants are kept from being naturalized makes them an exploitable population, but most of that exploitation is being done by smaller employers especially on a contract by contract basis, and not by the ultra-rich. This applies to other legal resident demographics as well, including unpaid interns. Ultimately, small businesses will straight-up break employment law if they think they can get away with it, and they do this in Europe quite regularly.

But the REASON undocumented migrants are kept in this state is because white people, particularly these working class white christians you're so worried about, get fucking rabid as soon as anyone so much as mentions the possibility of legalizing these people's status and providing them with the ability to have normal work protections. Working class racism, not some sort of Elite plot, is why this continues.

Similarly, working class idiocy is why we've seen destruction of the education system, of infrastructure, of affordable higher ed, of affordable health care, and of unionized labor. If anything, business elites are largely trying to stop and reverse this process because they benefit from social stability, education, and economic stability.

You know Trump isn't a small town poor, right?
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Marine Le Pen
The correct term is "bourgie". (Thank god I'm off my phone and don't have to keep using Apple-approved words, without going through great pains to make the stupid auto-correct leave them alone.)
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I honestly just can't get down with saying "fuck the poor", even if you specify the white rural poor. It feels like the downtrodden have been pitted against each other, somehow putting lowering income disparity at odds with fighting for racial equality.