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  • I think that PM uses almost any topic with the intent to shock other people and that he holds pretty much no beliefs of his own. I am pretty sure that PM is the walking embodiment of schadenfreude and lacks anything resembling the conceptualization of a soul. He is not worth even trying to shock, because he is incapable of so human an emotion. But thats just my opinion.

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Hell why stop at wild rabbits?  Why not set up little clinics all over the county for ALL the wildlife in the county? Sort of like well baby checks?  

IN addition to sucking at science, metaphor and analogy, we can include reduction ad absurdum to the ranks of numerous others. The point of reductio ad absurdum is to show that when taken to an extreme, a specific argument leads to absurdity. However, it requires the specific argument remain the same. In this instance, Bluffy has extended the argument from normal ethical care of domestic livestock, animals we are responsible for and benefit from, to engaging in abnormal and probably unethical care of wild fauna. In doing so, he's created his own absurdity.

Par for the course.
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We should start a club.
Could be a sub-committee of the Darwin Club.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
It was Jeb!'s campaign. But wouldn't it just increase its legitimacy if it was commissioned by the FBI rather a political campaign?
I guess that depends on who the target audience is.
For that hard-core ~ 35% that seems thoroughly immune to reality, it would be more confirmation of the Deep State having it in for their hero. 

Plus preemptive devaluating the FBI.
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I love his defense being, "classic leftist kind of propaganda, fake news."

What a dick.

Put his eyes out, stick him in jail and confiscate his wealth.

The classic right wing propaganda is blaming fake news on the left when most of it came from the right
Projection is a common tactic of the right wing and other nut jobs.
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Even most of your own Darwin club members don't say that I am being cruel to my animals.  It's pretty much an insane one woman campaign here I think.
Testy does not constitute "most".
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hehe yes.  But it's a big field.  Assholes aren't my area.
Lucky you.
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I was serious about my Mobile Rabbit Colony "fantasy" ... and that has now become a reality through much effort and trial and error ...

And yes, I'm serious about wanting giraffes and elephants in my herd ...

The thing is, Dave, that as with almost any topic you start, you constantly move the goalposts according to current need.  So you start a topic called " Economics of "Saving Agriculture" (Thereby Saving the World)" and yet when anyone actually starts talking about the complexities of the actual world, and why your attempts are unlikely to be solutions to anything outside Missouri, it's all about your own little patch.  And if we talk about why your approach might not be very appropriate even for your own little patch, then we are back to your "experiments" in saving the world - you just did that right now. Faid thought (understandably) that you were proposing these concrete blocks for your own project, and you scoff at his stupidity for not realising that you were talking IN GENERAL not about your own project (btw, do you know ANYTHING about the sustainability of concrete?)

Exactly the same happened in your RH Brown thread, and then in the other one you started in order to get away from the problems confronting you in the RH Brown thread.  Then you scoff and scold at anyone who, in your eyes, deviates from your current preferred talking point.  While badgering from even the topic of your own thread when things get scary.

No, I'm not mad.  Except in the sense that it's crazy to care about the behaviour of a narcissistic know-nothing in Missouri, especially when an almost identical narcissistic know-nothing is currently threatening the future of the planet.

But I guess it counts as training....
You are working in cognitive issues, are you not?
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Are you people making the mistake of thinking Dave actually has a plan? I always thought he just ad-hoc-ed from one shiny to another, without concern for contradiction, and just rationalised his decision post-hoc.
Bluffy also has a thing for glittery stuff, bouncing stuff,
Are you people making the mistake of thinking Dave actually has a plan? I always thought he just ad-hoc-ed from one shiny to another, without concern for contradiction, and just rationalised his decision post-hoc.
Bluffy's Laws of Discourse on Internet Discussion Forums that apply to this post,

First Law: All evidences for Mainstream Science are speculative. All speculations for creationism and especially Ye Bigge Olde Fludde are evidential.

Second Law: One may escape intellectual responsibility on any issue merely by stating an intent to pursue it.

Third Law: If you have an objection to any point I've raised, I've already addressed it. No, I won't tell you where.

Fourth Law: Unanswerable questions are invisible.

Fifth Law: The truth of all previously established facts and conclusions are subject to their being convenient to the argument I am presently making.

Sixth Law: Any claim AFDave posts on a new discussion board invalidates the refutations of the same claim he has already seen and acknowledged on previous discussion boards.

Seventh Law: No matter how transparently pathetic or retarded any of Dave's claims may be they can always be followed by something even more pathetic and retarded.

Eighth Law: Any thread where I'm getting my ass handed to me on the original topic can be prolonged indefinitely by the introduction of tangential diversions or an abnormal focus on meaningless minutiae.

Ninth Law: A 'troll' is anyone who makes persistent challenges to any of my claims.

Law 9(a): A 'blatant troll with a history' is anyone who's been successful at it over the long term.

Tenth Law: It's only a quote-mine if I don't use the exact words of the writer, not if I just read his mind and tell you what he really meant.

Law 10(a): It is not a quote mine if I am merely quoting someone else's quote mine.

Surprisingly, all of them apply.
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Put your chimney oriented to exhaust under your covers.  Warm air and footsies all night!
I was thinking he could just sit on it and spin.
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frit
I'm glad you clarified that. I doubt that Bluffy would have been familiar with the term. I certainly wasn't.
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Anyways Dave,  I'm disappointed in you for not being actually concerned with truth when you go all soapbox about it. There's a reason fundamentalist Christians are so reviled by the rest of us. Your ethics are disturbing. You lie to yourselves and to those around you and want to tell other people what to believe based on only your assertions. Well, your assertions are retarded and your lies in their service would only be funny if they weren't so damaging to humanity.

Fundy Christians. Can't live with 'em, can't feed 'em to the lions anymore.
You're an idiot.  Of course I'm concerned with truth.  And one of the biggest truths around is ... there was a Global Flood.

The radiocarbon calibration curves alone refute the HYPOTHESIS (note, not a "truth") that there was a Global Flood within the last 10,000 years.  They show that there was no Global Flood within at least the last 50,000 years (and actually more).

Which means that the ONLY evidence FOR a Global Flood, i.e. some stories that there was a flood that was global within the last 10,000 years, is shown to be invalid.  There is NO evidence for a GLOBAL Flood AT ALL outside those stories.

Which means you've got nothing left to support your "truth".

Are you going to deal with this?  Or are you frit?
frit?
A mixture of silica and other materials fused together to make ceramic?  Dave has kiln-fired brain ceramics?
Would those other materials include sloth shit?
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
I wonder what happened there.
I think the most obvious explanation is he has no idea what he's doing.

Trump responds to the latest whisper in his ear.  The magic is to get ANOTHER whisper in his ear before he impulsively takes action on the last whisper.

And then get him to act before another whisper comes along.
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Anyways Dave,  I'm disappointed in you for not being actually concerned with truth when you go all soapbox about it. There's a reason fundamentalist Christians are so reviled by the rest of us. Your ethics are disturbing. You lie to yourselves and to those around you and want to tell other people what to believe based on only your assertions. Well, your assertions are retarded and your lies in their service would only be funny if they weren't so damaging to humanity.

Fundy Christians. Can't live with 'em, can't feed 'em to the lions anymore.
You're an idiot.  Of course I'm concerned with truth.  And one of the biggest truths around is ... there was a Global Flood.

The radiocarbon calibration curves alone refute the HYPOTHESIS (note, not a "truth") that there was a Global Flood within the last 10,000 years.  They show that there was no Global Flood within at least the last 50,000 years (and actually more).

Which means that the ONLY evidence FOR a Global Flood, i.e. some stories that there was a flood that was global within the last 10,000 years, is shown to be invalid.  There is NO evidence for a GLOBAL Flood AT ALL outside those stories.

Which means you've got nothing left to support your "truth".

Are you going to deal with this?  Or are you frit?
frit?
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Dave is in the usual "the shit just got kicked out of my latest apologist pal, again" mode.

The shameful Man-Child accusations of everyone else around him being dishonest, liars, fraudulent, and "broken" without the ability to explain or provide evidence for any of those dishonest accusations. Followed the the inevitable doubling down, the repeated unevidenced assertion or assertions that began it all.

The cycle continues. Year eleven.   :awgee:
Plus the inevitable tell:  ...
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Science / Re: Neutron star collision detected
What I would now like Dave to explain is how this happened if the stars were 130 million light years away and we've just seen it. :stopper:
I would not
Spoilsport
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... you are already sure there was such a flood.
'cuzza, you know, those Elephants in the Room

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Actually, that's more evidence than he's ever presented.
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Science / Re: Neutron star collision detected
What I would now like Dave to explain is how this happened if the stars were 130 million light years away and we've just seen it. :stopper: 

Da Fludde, Da Fludde!!

It also affected light speed, which is why the half lives of radioactives was speeded up.
Plus they are wrong about it all, it's FAKE SCIENCE anyway.
Everyone knows our eyebeams see everything immediately. Just ask StuporSpurt.
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Absolute 100% fucking truth! Accept no substitutes!

And since it's only found in a literal reading of the Bible, everything else can be discarded as lies!

So there.

Nya.

 :turtlebert:

Yep, 100%, not 95% truth and 15% lies, not 90% truth and 10% lies, 100% TRUTH!!
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Ah, I see it's right there on the first page of this thread where Dave claims Elrich was probably brainwashed.  ::)

ETA:

But why would Dave have to make a clearly nonsensical claim about Elrich being brainwashed if all Elrich said is that he couldn't recall what caused hm to hold that opinion? The powers of the Darwin Club truly are amazing and put the Illuminati to shame.
The really impressive part is how we manipulate Bluffy into guilessly acting the fool and making creationism look even dumber than it is. Though it sort of seems like Bluffy may be catching on, given the team in charge of him is called The Bitches.
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So Ehrlich is one of the few (ballsy) scientists who says that the Sahara desert is a manmade desert, not a natural one.

What evidence do we have for this?

Well at first I looked at Rome and it's deforestation practices, but Voxrat says that Rome only colonized the Mediterranean coast, not the entire area that is now the Sahara.  While this is true, I don't think we know how much of this land area might have been deforested by the Romans.

Be that as it may ...

I've looked elsewhere for evidence supporting Ehrlich's claim.

And I think I've found some in the Tassili n'Ajjer cave paintings in Southeastern Algeria.  If you look on a map at where SE Algeria is, it's smack dab in the center of what is now the Sahara desert.

This website describes the cave paintings.  Note the timeframes ...

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The Pastoral Period (or 'Bovidian period') from around 7,200 BC to 3,000 BC is the dominant period in terms of the number of paintings, during which there is the representation of bovine herds and the scenes of daily life. They have an aesthetic naturalistic realism to them and are among the best known examples of prehistoric mural art.

The Horse and Libyan Warrior Period ('Equidian period'), which dates from approximately 3200 BC to 1000 BC, covers the end of the Neolithic and protohistoric periods, which corresponds to the disappearance of numerous species from the effects of progressive desiccation and to the appearance of the horse. Horses have also been depicted pulling chariots, driven by whip-wielding unarmed charioteers, suggesting that the chariots were not used for fighting, but possibly for hunting.  However, chariots with wooden wheels could not have been driven across the rocky Sahara and into the mountains where many of the chariot paintings occur.

Some of the last artistic images reflect the taming of camels in the aptly named Camel Period, which dates from around 2,000 BC to 1,000 BC. This period coincided with the onset of the hyper-arid desert climate and with the appearance of the dromedary (a camel with one hump on its back). http://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-africa/15000-artworks-over-ten-millennia-reveal-evolution-human-life-edge-sahara

Some things to note here ...

1) It didn't become hyper-arid until the 2000 BC - 1000 BC range, much later than what you guys think
2) The "Pastoral Period" is dominant in terms of number of paintings and includes depictions of bovine herds.  Sounds like overgrazing to me.  Does it not to you?
3) The timeframe for the Pastoral Period is skewed.  See RH Brown.

As for your Milankotich Cycle theory ... well ... that's just speculation.  This is a science forum.  We deal in facts.
Reposting for the people who don't read carefully. 

Here are the things that you should glean from this article ...

1)  There was a pastoral society smack dab in the middle of what is now the Sahara desert less than 10,000 years ago.
2)  Hyper arid conditions were not prevalent until about 1000 BC. Much later that you guys believe.

Now you take these gleanings from this article and combine them with things you should already know...

1)  That the 10,000 year timescale should be compressed thanks to the work of RH Brown.
2)  The fact of desertification happening all around us even today as a result of deforestation and overgrazing.

And voilĂ ! You have support for Ehrlich's claim!

See how that works?
Got interested in this topic again recently.  I see that, as usual, there is no substantive refutation from this crowd ...
Weird how you got interested again at the same time you are badgering from the c14 thread despite the fact that you don't understand it yet. Oh, and from your dumbass claim that there is a global flood layer found in continent sized whatever whatever that isn't actually there.
Any port in a storm.
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I'm surprised Dave isn't interested in the c14 curves issue, being all about truth and all.
Yah, TRUTH MATTERS, ya know!!
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Air infiltration.

Focus.

Like you focussed on Pingu's C14 posts by running away?

Well, he did manage to keep it behind him.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
you say that as if the people in charge aren't looking and saying "well, how can we kill as many people as possible in as short a time as possible"

The decision-making process of the Republican Party and the Trump Administration makes a lot more sense if you accept that they're actively trying to kill people, including American citizens.
There is that possibility.
Problem with nukes is they aren't very selective.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the problem of landing on the moon had to be solved in people's heads before doing it live, did it not?
You're not landing on the moon.

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It was a post against general inaccuracy.

You really are being a fuckwit about the state of your house. Your argument comes down to "If I make a hot bit here that will solve my problem even if all the heat is constantly leaking out of my crappy house". Like I said, blowtorch on arse, and cold feet.
Of course I have to improve my air infiltration problem, but that problem is already solved in my head.  Just have to implement it.  Jesus Christ you're dense.


Well damn. Dave has "already solved the problem in his head", folks.  What could go wrong with that rather foolproof position? Dave has also solved the age of the Earth to be less than 10,000 years old, solved the problem of thermodynamics as they apply to goats, determined modern measurements of Earth are encoded in ancient pyramids, found that boiling turkey guts is the same as petroleum, and that Tyvek on his inside walls will solve his air infiltration problem, all to his satisfaction, in his head.

Objective data need not apply.

Let's all rest easy and bask in the illumination of his brilliance.
I like getting dizzy watching his high speed mind run circles around us.