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Messages - VoxRat

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Refresh my memory...
Was it in the Oval Office or somewhere else that Trump railed about "shithole countries" ?
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Well Dave.
If I decide to cheat on my wife (and embarrass my kid) by bonking hookers,  will it make a huge difference whether I do it in my office or in a motel?
No. But you're not the president of the United States with the eyes of the entire world on you. 
I see.
I guess he thought no one would know.
Like a lot of guys bonking hookers in motels.
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btw...
This whole detour into how the relative sleaziness of Bill Clinton vis-a-vis Maasai child marriage is the result of Testy writing:
whats mysterious is how Trump, of all people, came to be anyone's hero.
It's the ultimate triumph of cynicism.
Yeah. A more disgusting human is hard to imagine.
... to which Hawkins - from the comfort of his glass house - turned the topic to sexual ethics.
Trump's sexual ethics are, in fact, appalling*,  but that is not the main source of disgust most of us have for him.

* https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Donald_Trump
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My boss has this funny rule that office work places are for work.
So no eating lunch or drinking coffee in the office?
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Well Dave.
If I decide to cheat on my wife (and embarrass my kid) by bonking hookers,  will it make a huge difference whether I do it in my office or in a motel?
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No it does not.
feel free to explain.
i don't need to explain anything.
You are the one making libelous assertions here.
It's up to you to justify them.
Or badger, as per usual.
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No it does not.
Your davinitions of words do not apply to anything outside your bubble.
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If you are anything like the Voxrat, we already know that you are good with killing babies
::) 

Oh? And what will you cite to support your libelous contention that VoxRat is "good with killing babies" ?

I guess that's the beauty of Trump's America.  Shits like you no longer feel the slightest compunction about stating obvious falsehoods as if they're established facts.
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I was not woo-hooing anything about the culture?
Oh you most certainly were.
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Clinton's not good he's just 1000 times better than the Maasai old guy."
Fortunately you accidentally failed to include the first " ,  so your dishonest "quote" ends up - accidentally - being less dishonest than you intended.

Look shitforbrains. No one is blaming this particular old guy for the culture that he was born into, and doesn't question. What people are objecting to is that culture. Or - more exactly - the child bride / sex slavery aspect of it. And your woo-hooing of it.
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In fact, it often takes such a long time that people collectively forget the bad agricultural practices that caused it, such as in the case of North Africa, so they make up sciency sounding fairy tales to explain what happened.
Oh brother ::)

Are you back to your Humans Created the Sahara idiocy?
I'm not "back" to it. I never left it because it's not idiocy. It's the truth.

No. It's not.

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Here's what the FAO has to say about it

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<    clip quote that fails to support the PRATT that the Sahara desert was created by human activity  >


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Keep digging Hawkins.
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Gee I wonder if Pingu can explain this one away with Milankovitch cycles too .....

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-24/drought-conditions-southwest-are-already-being-compared-1930s-dust-bowl
Another all / some / none fail.

The role of Milankovitch cycles in climate is as settled science as science gets.
That doesn't mean that they account for ALL aspects of all climate, everywhere.
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In fact, it often takes such a long time that people collectively forget the bad agricultural practices that caused it, such as in the case of North Africa, so they make up sciency sounding fairy tales to explain what happened.
Oh brother ::)

Are you back to your Humans Created the Sahara idiocy?
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So here's what's weird to me about this current discussion.  I say woohoo about an old masai tribesman marrying a 15 year old bride in accordance with tribal traditions and a white female reporter spending time in the village says they were both happy and everyone's heads explode at my comment. But but I bring up the fact that another old guy sitting in the White House got a freaking blow job
What was "freaking" about it?
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from a young intern which was not at all in accordance with tribal traditions and in fact almost forced him out of office and you guys are falling all over yourselves to defend him.
Who is falling all over themselves to defend Clinton?  :dunno:
I said I thought he should have resigned.
Not so much for the adultery, but for lying about it, and making it possible - nay, inevitable - that the hypocritical republicans would extract a devastating political advantage from it.
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And I'm supposedly the hypocrite.
Yes.
You are.
And not just because of the age difference issue.
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Now, considering the fact that you can't supply your own nutritional needs with 10 acres... 

:hmm:
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I don't actually keep track of all your pipe dreams and fantasies.
It really doesn't matter what you believe, or don't.
What matters is what you can document and support.
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I suppose it will surprise you - since your idea of politics seems to be entirely Yay My Team Boo Yours - that I thought then, and still do, that Clinton should have resigned.

The fact is, for taking sexual advantage of a very junior employee he should have gone to jail.
No.
That is not a "fact".
People go to jail for breaking the law.
What law did he break?

I agree he is a sleaze bag.
But Trump is far worse. Even by his own account:

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People want me to [run for president] all the time ... I don't like it. Can you imagine how controversial I'd be? You think about [Bill Clinton] and the women. How about me with the women? Can you imagine?
On Hardball with Chris Matthew, as quoted in the New York Post.[1]
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My point is that there are vast difference between Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky versus the old Masai tribesman who married the 15 year old.  And for some reason Voxrat thinks my "hypocrisy is nauseating" for pointing that out. Or something.
Do try and keep the order of events straight, Dave. Voxrat thinks your hypocrisy for cheering the Maasai marriage of a 15 year old while condemning Clinton for having oral sex with a 22 year old is nauseating. The hypocrisy wasn't in pointing out differences, which you started trying to do only after Voxrat called you a hypocrite.
I think you are confused. But hell, if you are, then that makes two of us. I don't understand what Vox ratfinks was hypocritical. I like how my phone transcribed that. I think I'm just going to leave it. It somehow seems appropriate.
Your confusion is understandable.
Because your hypocrisy here is multidimensional.
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Exactly

(Cross post)
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And on the other hand we have the absolutely not culturally accepted practice of powerful men, in this case the most powerful man in the country, using his position to make advances toward a young impressionable girl trying to make her way in the world. It would be one thing if Bill Clinton had taken her as a second wife with all the privileges both financial and otherwise that come along with that.  But no. He was free loading. Receiving pleasure from this vulnerable young woman and giving nothing in return. Talk about a slime bag.
And of course Trump has never done anything like that!  ::)

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And it's hard to believe that a grown adult sporting a PhD degree
Oh lord.
Here we go again with the completely gratuitous PhD envy. ::)
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cannot see the vast difference between these two situations.
What makes you think I don't see a difference between the two situations?  :dunno:

I suppose it will surprise you - since your idea of politics seems to be entirely Yay My Team Boo Yours - that I thought then, and still do, that Clinton should have resigned.
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^^^^^ This.

Your hypocrisy is nauseating, Hawkins.
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::)

Get a grip, Hawkins.
It's not going to happen.
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whats mysterious is how Trump, of all people, came to be anyone's hero.
It's the ultimate triumph of cynicism.