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What the fuck.



No, really, what in the actual honest to god literal jesus christ FUCK:

https://thinkprogress.org/speaker-at-moore-event-says-he-accidentally-went-with-moore-to-a-brothel-with-child-prostitutes-65c9819f8a1e/

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One of the introductory speakers was Bill Sailing, who said he served with Moore in Vietnam. Sailing told the story of a night he spent with Moore and a third man, who he did not name. According to Sailing it was the third man's last night in Vietnam and the man invited them to a "private club" in the city to celebrate with "a couple of beers."

Moore and Sailing agreed. According to Sailing, they didn't expect there was anything untoward going on at the "private club" because "there were legitimate private clubs" in Vietnam. The third man drove them to the club in his Jeep.

Sailing said that, when he and Moore arrived, they soon realized the man had taken them to a brothel. The third man, Sailing suggested, essentially tricked them. "I could tell you what I saw but I don't want to," Sailing said mischievously.

"There were certainly pretty girls. And they were girls. They were young. Some were very young," Sailing acknowledged. But according to Sailing, Moore was shocked by what he saw. "We shouldn't be here, I'm leaving," Moore said, according to Sailing.

They asked the third man to leave with them but he didn't want to. So Sailing and Moore took his Jeep and left him there all night with sex workers, who they agreed were underage. The man returned to base the next morning on the back of a motorcycle, Sailing said with a grin.
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Mario Batali:

https://ny.eater.com/2017/12/11/16759540/mario-batali-sexual-misconduct-allegations

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Minutes into their conversation, she recalls, he told her, "Come work for me, I'll pay you double what you're making." Moments later, someone bumped her glass, spilling wine all over her chest and down her scooped-neck shirt. She alleges that Batali began rubbing her breasts with his bare hands while saying something like, "Let me help you with that," as he groped her chest. "He just went to town, and I was so shocked," the chef says. "Jaw on the ground, I just stepped back from him in utter disgust and walked away."

The chef is one of four women who allege that Batali touched them inappropriately in a pattern of behavior that appears to span at least two decades. Three of the women worked for Batali in some capacity during their careers. One former employee alleges that over the course of two years, he repeatedly grabbed her from behind and held her tightly against his body. Another former employee alleges that he groped her and that, in a separate incident, he compelled her to straddle him; another alleges that he grabbed her breasts at a party, though she no longer worked for him at the time. The woman whose allegations are described above has never worked for Batali, though she works in the restaurant industry.

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Batali did not deny all the allegations, saying that they "match up" with ways he has behaved.

"I apologize to the people I have mistreated and hurt. Although the identities of most of the individuals mentioned in these stories have not been revealed to me, much of the behavior described does, in fact, match up with ways I have acted. That behavior was wrong and there are no excuses. I take full responsibility and am deeply sorry for any pain, humiliation or discomfort I have caused to my peers, employees, customers, friends and family."
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I'm shocked that in a series of news cycles inundated by an insane cartoonishly literally evil character that a random person in a bar doesn't really know all of the boring details about a normal politician's platform. I'm sure the disproportionate coverage of the kidfucking over pretty much everything else had nothing to do with it. If Jones had been pushing Medicare for All, he'd be getting all of the media attention, and people would know what he stands for.
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He had me until he started speculating about osteosarc citing only Zoobiquity and then "I learned today there's a National Canine Cancer Foundation."

I mean, it's good to know that this particular bear is a total outlier for that specific population. It's interesting to read about how some of these populations are managed and tracked. And, yeah, shit like this makes deniers dig their heels in, but deniers are mostly unreachable. They don't respond to detailed, reasonable analysis, either. You're not going to change their minds pretty much no matter what you do or how you approach the issue.

But I've never seen any references to osteosarcoma in ursine species. Just because it's very common in some dog breeds doesn't mean it's likely to be seen in every other species. Even within the species, it's rare in some breeds of dog. Osteosarcoma is also rare in cats and is not as aggressive as it is in dogs. It's extremely rare in other species like horses and cattle. In dogs, the majority of tumors appear on the appendicular skeleton, and of those, the front limb is the most common site (distal radius/ulna, specifically). By the time you see an actual lump, it's likely already metastasized, most often to the lungs. By that point, the animal is usually non-weight bearing on that limb or showing more obvious signs of pain or altered gait. That bear is dragging both hind limbs from what looks like simple weakness but later bears (lol) weight on all 4 limbs and walks in a way that looks relatively normal to me. Compared to all the time I've spent watching bears in zoos. :mason:

As for the "similar signs," muscle atrophy and weakness can be associated with a billion different things and many types of cancer. The dogs I've seen with osteosarcoma (and often pretty big lesions, confirmed metastasis to the lungs on X-ray by the time they come in) haven't looked like some other cancer patients. The ones I've seen have mostly been alert and in decent body condition. It mets so rapidly that there's often not much time for muscle wasting and some of the other signs you see with other types of cancer, even though they often stop eating. At the very end, they look like complete shit, but body condition may not necessarily change that quickly. So I don't know why he zeroed in on osteosarcoma specifically. I'm no bear doctor and think it's certainly within the realm of possibility that this bear had some kind of cancer or some other underlying disease, but if we're going to beep boop it up, let's beep boop it up for real.  :smugprof:

eta btw Zoobiquity is a very good book, and everyone should read it
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https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/12/polar-bear-starving-arctic-sea-ice-melt-climate-change-spd/

 :cry:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/animalia/wp/2017/12/09/we-stood-there-crying-the-story-behind-the-emotional-video-of-a-starving-polar-bear/

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A paper, published in July, said that the higher global temperatures go the more likely polar bears are to interact with humans -- and possibly attack and eat them.

The only silver lining, IMO.

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Some expressed skepticism that anything could be gleaned about the environment from one image. A commenter on the National Geographic's Facebook page wondered about the bear's age, when the footage was taken and what an autopsy would show.

This is why we deserve to be eaten by bears.

Of course you can't tell exactly what was wrong with this individual bear and why, but it's a fact that the polar bear population is crashing and that a huge contributor to their decline is climate change. Anyone who thinks that publishing a well-reasoned paper with citations is enough to get the public interested in fucking doing anything is an idiot.

We didn't get to where we are with reducing smoking rates by going on at length about the mechanisms of how cigarettes cause disease. People didn't read scientific papers and learn all of the details of how cigarettes cause the harm they cause. We got there through PR and advertising, through images and slogans and stories about real people dying horrible deaths. Because that's what fucking works.

So if showing someone a horribly sad video of a starving polar bear and saying, "Hey, lots of bears are going to end up like this one because of climate change" gets more people to pay attention and pressure those in power to change things, then I'm okay with it even if it turns out this particular bear's muscle atrophy and weakness was actually due to lymphoma or whatever. It's no different than showing the horror of a non-smoker dying from lung cancer and saying, "This is what lung cancer looks like, and smoking leads to more people ending up like this."
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TR Embassy and Animal Shelter / Re: The Cat Thread
I mean, obviously, I can't really say anything with any certainty from reading a few words on the internet, but pain and going off feed are often things you see with severe dental disease. Lots of animals will drop food and pick it up and drop it again if it's hard food because it's just painful to eat. But obviously the actual vet who saw the actual cat in person would have a better idea of what could be wrong.

Also cats are fucking weird.
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TR Embassy and Animal Shelter / Re: The Cat Thread
:(

Poor kitty. Did they say whether they think the teeth might be causing the elevated WBC? Hopefully the antibiotic will get things under control and get him feeling better. Poor little buddy.
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Look at Corey Stewart continuing to be a piece of fucking garbage:

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Politics and Current Events / Re: Comic relief thread
This whole thread.



He is a bona fide fucking lunatic. Like I'm at a loss for words to adequately describe how insane this man is.

http://www.newsweek.com/john-mcafee-says-belize-government-trying-kidnap-him-720189
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse



we're not far from "LOL I WILL RAPE YOUR DAUGHTER AND IT WILL BE FUN TRUMP 2020" tshirts
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Hmm, the Army-Navy game is in town this weekend, and the SEPTA buses are advertising it! Let's take a look at what's going on in the news coverag--...

http://taskandpurpose.com/west-point-ahmad-bradshaw-rape-allegations/

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The U.S. Military Academy's star quarterback, Ahmad Bradshaw, was investigated for allegedly raping a female cadet at West Point, only to remain on the Army Black Knights roster while his accuser was pressured out of the academy, according to internal documents reviewed by The Daily Beast on Friday.

In September 2014, Cadet Madeline Lewis accused Bradshaw of raping her after she returned to her barracks room from a shower, the Daily Beast first reported on Dec. 8.

An internal U.S. Military Academy investigation determined that "a consensual sexual relationship between the cadets had occurred"; a second subsequent investigation, conducted by the Army Criminal Investigation Division, turned up "insufficient evidence" for the service to bring charges against Bradshaw, according to the Daily Beast, and was charged with violating West Point's Cadet Disciplinary Code for "sexual activity, which includes, but is not limited to: kissing, hand holding, and fondling," in the barracks.

Bradshaw denied that the two had any sexual relationship at all when speaking to investigators and never gave an official statement. Lewis was forced to do "hours" -- typically a repetitive marching punishment, but due to her knee injury, she was instead isolated in detention.
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Yeah, the district that hasn't elected a Republican since the 40s and that Clinton won with 79% of the vote is definitely now lost to the GOP.
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Seriously, what the shit. Conspiracy side of me is wondering if this is deliberate - if the sources of these are fucking with the journalists or something.

You may actually be right.



Ari Fleischer seems to think so, though he's blaming "Ds" for it:
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Not surprising at all:

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/08/trent-franks-sex-surrogacy-impregnate-287808

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Arizona Rep. Trent Franks allegedly made unwanted advances toward female staffers in his office and retaliated against one who rebuffed him, according to House GOP sources with knowledge of a complaint against him.

The allegations, which reached Speaker Paul Ryan and top GOP leaders in recent days, led to Franks' sudden resignation this week. Franks originally announced that he would resign on Jan. 31, 2018. But just hours after POLITICO inquired about the allegations, he sped up his resignation and left office Friday.

The sources said Franks approached two female staffers about acting as a potential surrogate for him and his wife, who has struggled with fertility issues for years. But the aides were concerned that Franks was asking to have sexual relations with them. It was not clear to the women whether he was asking about impregnating the women through sexual intercourse or in vitro fertilization. Franks opposes abortion rights as well as procedures that discard embryos.

A former staffer also alleged that Franks tried to persuade a female aide that they were in love by having her read an article that described how a person knows they're in love with someone, the sources said. One woman believed she was the subject of retribution after rebuffing Franks. While she enjoyed access to the congressman before the incident, that access was revoked afterward, she told Republican leaders.
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ETA: apparently video was released because the waste of skin got acquitted today.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/mesa-breaking/2017/12/07/philip-brailsford-verdict-daniel-shaver-killing/927052001/

What is wrong with Maricopa County?

Jesus fucking christ. What is wrong with these people? And fuck that union cop who was whining about the emotional trial.

And in slightly lighter news: cop shoots dog, makes owner cut off its head to check for rabies (after dog bit someone).

http://www.13wmaz.com/mobile/article/amp/news/local/crawford-sheriff-investigator-shouldnt-have-told-man-to-behead-dead-dog/497063112

Oh my god are you fucking kidding me with this shit?

Aside from the absolute and utter horror of having someone do this to their own dog that you just fucking shot, this is insanity. You do not have some random fucking person cut off the dog's head. If the dog was potentially rabid, you need to take precautions before cutting the goddamn head off because coming into contact with nervous tissue puts you at risk for GETTING FUCKING RABIES which is one of the very many reasons why you have professionals handle this sort of thing when it needs to be done.

That's assuming it was the right decision to actually have the animal tested. That depends on factors that cops are too fucking dumb to even begin to understand.

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Trent Franks says he asked two female employees to be surrogates:



Thinking there's probably more to this story.

Also I can't fucking wait for the inevitable Federalist article about how it's a Very Good and Capitalist Thing to pay young women to have your baby.
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Let's not forget that in addition to being a piece of shit, Roy Moore is a colossal piece of shit:
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-alabama-senate-runoff-20170921-story.html

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At Moore's Florence rally, the former judge outlined all the wrongs he sees in Washington and "spiritual wickedness in high places." He warned of "the awful calamity of abortion and sodomy and perverse behavior and murders and shootings and road rage" as "a punishment inflicted upon us for our presumptuous sins."

In response to a question from one of the only African Americans in the audience -- who asked when Moore thought America was last "great" -- Moore acknowledged the nation's history of racial divisions, but said: "I think it was great at the time when families were united -- even though we had slavery -- they cared for one another.... Our families were strong, our country had a direction."

At the same event, Moore referred to Native Americans and Asian Americans as "reds and yellows," and earlier this year he suggested the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks were divine punishment.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
Trump slurred speech:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/06/health/did-trump-slur-his-speech-bn/index.html

Dentures? You'd think he'd have implants or veneers.

Sucking a candy?

Dementia and/or mini-stroke.

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