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But a president with historically low polling numbers and a tone deaf, authoritarian style can't even get his party to vote to repeal Obamacare, even though it's been the mainstay of fundraising and campaigning for the republicans.
TBH this is arguably not Trump's fault. The Repubs found it easy to say they would repeal Obamacare when they didn't have to, but were never united enough to actually do it. They've now caught the car and have to drive it. IOW, they have fucked themselves.
What is, inarguably, Trump's fault, though, is how he so facilely promised his gullible followers that ACA would be repealed and replaced "immediately" - it was going to be "so easy!", and the replacement was going to be "terrific", cost a "fraction" of ACA, and cover everybody.
It appears to me...
Good 'shrooms, bro?
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John Young is a goddamn serious fucking wildlife photog.  Kudos.

And good for the parrot.  Fucking humans cats, bringing their goddamn cats humans everywhere.
fyp
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I predict that post will be strangely invisible to Dave.
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Fuck Mindromp. :p
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This is cool: Night parrot sighting in Western Australia shocks birdwatching world



The night parrot was thought to be extinct until a few years ago, when a few were found living in western Queensland. Now a bunch of birdwatchers just found some living 2,000 kilometres away in northern West Australia. Which, pretty obviously, means the little buggers have a large habitat range at the moment, even though nobody has a clue what the actual population numbers are.

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"There were quite a few of them, there was at least five or six of these things calling around us, so we didn't know what they were, but we saw the habitat was beautiful and thought that they could be night parrots."

    "The next day we walked out into that area and one just burst out from under our feet from the spinifex."

In that moment, one of the members of the group, Bruce Greatwich, managed to take a photo of the south end of the northbound bird. It was definitely a night parrot.

The men's discovery is the first confirmed sighting of a night parrot in Western Australia for nearly a century. There have been other rumours of sightings throughout the 2000s, but no evidence accompanied them.

<snip>

While it is unlikely that the bird consistently appears across the whole arid interior, this find gives scientists and birdwatchers hope that pockets of population live in areas relatively undisturbed by development, other human-caused habitat degradation or feral animals.

"Having a photograph now, being absolutely certain [about the birds' presence], hopefully our regulators will be able to use that," says Dr Burbidge.

"So if anyone's sceptical about they can say: 'We have definite evidence that they're in Western Australia and we really do need to survey adequately for them where there are development proposals.'"

:parrot:  :parrot:  :parrot:  :parrot:  < Not night parrots.
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Hey I have an idea. Since Dave has chickened out of the avatar bet, how's about we change his avatar to a chicken?

Or a badger.
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You're a generous bloke, with other people's houses. :grin:
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Y'know I can see only one drawback with your plan. With the amount of hot air those fuckwits generate, they could bump her up to Cat 5.
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I'm bloody glad I'm a long way from it. Hopefully everyone got somewhere solid. Any silly buggers who thought "She'll be right, mate" are probably getting free flying lessons right about now.
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Oh yeah, that was defo on Trump. :grin:
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"in government you need consensus"

Yeah and in business you don't. You can just sell whatever the hell you feel like selling and price it wherever the hell you want to and people will buy your products.

Oh wait.
But a president with historically low polling numbers and a tone deaf, authoritarian style can't even get his party to vote to repeal Obamacare, even though it's been the mainstay of fundraising and campaigning for the republicans.
TBH this is arguably not Trump's fault. The Repubs found it easy to say they would repeal Obamacare when they didn't have to, but were never united enough to actually do it. They've now caught the car and have to drive it. IOW, they have fucked themselves.
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"Alex Jones"

You guys have a bad habit of throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
That assumes there is something of value in "Alex Jones" to salvage.
What state[1] are his organs in?
inb4 Texas :p
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Comment on the ABC blog: "Hamilton Island - beautiful one day, cyclonic the next." :parrot:

(They've had gusts of 260 kph).
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It's not a bad habit if you want to get rid of the baby too.
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Yeah that's an excellent idea. Just let them hire a tinnie and go for it. They could have a lovely day out, singing "Every little breeze seems to whisper Louise".
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What the fuck does that have to do with coral bleaching? :p
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By the way, I can get you examples of Yazidi and Sikh honour killings too. Yazidis aren't exactly friends of Islam. Never have been. Completely different religion.
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Good for you. Since we were debating whether or not honour killings were "a religious thing" in Islam, I honestly bolded the relevant sections.

I am aware that people die in honour killings. I have never disputed that. It is, however, not something that is demanded and supported by Islam as a religion. Which was the subject under discussion.

That link in post 125 shows examples of killings that would fall under Honor killing.

Regards
DL
Which examples? Bear in mind that only examples that are demanded by Islam per se would be relevant here.

All of them call on Muslims to kill and it is honor or obedience that would make such a demand. Obedience they tie to honor.

Regards
DL
You're not making yourself clear. For example:

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The execution of the Saudi Arabian princess Misha'al is an example of an honour killing in which the execution did not follow any Islamic religious court proceeding but was ordered directly by her grandfather after she admitted adultery.
Ok, so you say "all of them". This example is one of them. It was ordered by her grandfather. Nothing about Islam as a religion. Nothing about sharia courts or any other religious authority.

And yes, I know how honour/shame cultures work. But, you are trying to tie honour killings specifically to Islam. That's the case you have to make.
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Good for you. Since we were debating whether or not honour killings were "a religious thing" in Islam, I honestly bolded the relevant sections.

I am aware that people die in honour killings. I have never disputed that. It is, however, not something that is demanded and supported by Islam as a religion. Which was the subject under discussion.

That link in post 125 shows examples of killings that would fall under Honor killing.

Regards
DL
Which examples? Bear in mind that only examples that are demanded by Islam per se would be relevant here.
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No. Osman is just wondering what the fuck they were thinking when they chose 66%, and if their assumptions were any good.
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Folks, I want to be clear: this is NOT on President Trump. No one expected a businessman to completely understand the nuances, the complicated ins and outs of Washington and its legislative process. How would he know which individuals upon whom he would be able to rely? Many of them, friends and establishment colleagues of Speaker Ryan.
The obvious thing to ask here is: if no one expected a businessman to know how government works, why the fuck do people think that getting a businessman to run a government is a good idea?
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Although, if you wanted to play devil's advocate, there is an argument you could use.

It's fairly common to claim that a religion is defined not so much by its texts, as by the actual interpretations and practices of its followers. It's also fairly common to claim that several interpretations can have equal validity, or lack of validity if you want to look at it that way.

So, on that basis, you could argue that since substantial numbers of Muslims believe that honour killings are compatible with Islam, and since their preferred interpretation is their right, then honour killings are indeed compatible with Islam.

This is potentially a good wedge argument, because anyone who wants to argue against it would then be putting themselves in the position of not being able to argue that Islam is defined by interpretation rather than being defined by its core texts.

Which could be interesting.
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Good for you. Since we were debating whether or not honour killings were "a religious thing" in Islam, I honestly bolded the relevant sections.

I am aware that people die in honour killings. I have never disputed that. It is, however, not something that is demanded and supported by Islam as a religion. Which was the subject under discussion.
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I have bolded the relevant portions of the best presentation you have yet found.

This the best presentation of facts that I have yet found on this issue.

 Honour Killing - In Countries with Islamic Law

In many Arab countries, the practice of honour killing dates back to pre-Islamic times when Arab settlers occupied a region adjacent to Sindh, known as Baluchistan (in Pakistan). These Arab settlers had patriarchal traditions such as live burials of newly born daughters. Such traditions trace back to the earliest historic times of Ancient Babylon, where the predominant view was that a woman's virginity belonged to her family.

There is no mention of honour killing in the Quran or Hadiths. Honour killing, in Islamic definitions, refers specifically to extra-legal punishment by the family against a woman, and is forbidden by the Sharia (Islamic law). Religious authorities disagree with extra punishments such as honour killing and prohibit it, so the practice of it is a cultural and not a religious issue. However, since Islam has influence over vast numbers of Muslims in many countries and from many cultures, some use Islam to justify honour killing even though there is no support for honour killing in Islam.
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Anyway Debbie is now up to Cat 4, with winds around the eye getting fucking ridiculous. She has apparently decided to come ashore at lunchtime, smack on top of Bowen. Should keep them entertained.