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So you think its insightful enough to be copypasta-ed all over the internet?   Interesting. 

Anyway, the only copy I can find indexed on Google is City-Data, so as far as I know it is the only other time you've posted it.   Do you find that people tend to just completely ignore you on other forums?   Is that why you keep coming back here?

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Did it hurt that you were completely ignored the first time you posted this back in March?  
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The question is simple.

What could show the CO2 theory is wrong?

If increasing ice and cold occur, while CO2 levels increase, and you say that will not mean anything, then it's not a theory at all.

wtf?
Next F_X is going to try to convince us that Climate Science isn't real Science because we aren't comparing our planet to a control Earth where CO2 has remained constant.
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I'm pretty sure this is the Yann from the play. I'd love to hear his side of the story.

http://getahead.psu.edu/cv/CV_English_2013Dec_Anthropo.pdf
Oh geeze.  Attended a conference in Peterbourgh Oct. 25-28th, 2006.  "Play" published three weeks later...   
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The Soap Opera / Re: Socrates
Can we confine him to a single thread like at the old TR?

Was it a single thread? Not that my memory is the greatest but I thought he was restricted to the single (alternative reality) subforum.

Tangentially, Dave's a little too comfortable thinking that sub is his very own safe space. Not that I mind his political nonsense posted there, and he's behaved lately, because at least he's not shitting up other subs with indefensible (lol) nonsense. edit: Meaning that maybe Dave needs a roomie.
Dave and Socrates in one thread?   Is that your proposal?  Because I support that wholeheartedly!
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How are the baby goats doing inside the robopen, dave?
Wow...  there are a disturbing number of pictures of dead goats on Google...

This is pretty awesome though...   http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/safari-planet/2872707?snl=1
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Baby goats! 



Two so far ... expecting two more any day ...

TBF That's actually a pretty good looking goat. 
Congrats!  :)
TBF  Bluffy presumably had nothing to do with that.
Well, I've always though Dave's pupils were a little horizontal...
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The Soap Opera / Re: Socrates
I've been unwatching his threads. Are there a lot now?
A couple new ones today, so not that big of a deal.   But he's unlikely to get bored with his hit-and-runs...  
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The Soap Opera / Socrates
Can we confine him to a single thread like at the old TR?
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This is all I intend to say on this topic.
Pro tip: if you don't want to discuss, don't post in sections titled "discussion".
Its his schtick...  He was banned from the old TR and just spent the last year or so nattering at himself on his blog.   Guess he got lonely?
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Anyway, what actually happened to this socrates guy? At what point did he descent into nested self-quoting without ever bothering to actually discuss anything, and why does a person do something like that?

He's never discussed stuff, alway pontificated from 'on high' (probably thinks that literally) and avoided direct discussion or at most responded with ad hom jibes.
At one time he did attempt to discuss things, in his way...   His early days remind me a lot of Hawkins' style now, actually...
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Anyway, what actually happened to this socrates guy? At what point did he descent into nested self-quoting without ever bothering to actually discuss anything, and why does a person do something like that?

It's strange yet intriguing it it's own indication of psychosis way.
He's always been bonkers in a "Yes, Archaeopteryx was faked, yes I know how, no I won't tell you" kind of way.   I think he just kind of got tired of his insanity being challenge and just decided to lecture.   He had a personal Blogspot page at one point which hosted a play he had written called something like "When the Student is Ready, The Teacher Will Appear" where a PhD in Anthropology stays at his B&B and is shown the error of his ways by Doug's gentle teachings...     Truly bizarre....
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Do old TR bans apply in the New TR?   Related question, can we invite Schneibster back?
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Surprise, Surprise.  Nunes is an enormous hypocrite...

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The Republican-controlled House Intelligence Committee asked U.S. spy agencies late last year to reveal the names of U.S. individuals or organizations contained in classified intelligence on Russia's meddling in the 2016 election, engaging in the same practice that President Trump has accused the Obama administration of abusing, current and former officials said.

The chairman of the committee, Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), has since cast the practice of "unmasking" of U.S. individuals and organizations mentioned in classified reports as an abuse of surveillance powers by the outgoing Obama administration.

Trump has argued that investigators should focus their attention on former officials leaking names from intelligence reports, rather than whether the Kremlin coordinated its activities with the Trump campaign, an allegation he has denied. "The big story is the 'unmasking and surveillance' of people that took place during the Obama administration," Trump tweeted Thursday.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nunes-led-house-intelligence-committee-requested-unmaskings-of-americans/2017/06/02/5c098dc0-47bc-11e7-98cd-af64b4fe2dfc_story.html?utm_term=.4b5a2de86c49
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Nature is fascinating.  You should try observing it sometime.
Which of course, we don't do with our microscopes and modern equipment for analyzing the molecular components of cells and the means by which they interact.

No, we can only truly observe nature by shitting in a bucket and penning animals in cages and having machines drag them over terrain to which they are not native.

::)
I'm all about microscopes.  I plan to have some in my first sustainable subdivision.  But they are going to be utilized under a non-flawed paradigm instead of a flawed one.
What do you plan on doing with them? 
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Schwinn Cobra (made up name)
-Schwinn Mountain 10 speeds
--Schwinn 10 speeds
---Schwinn bikes
----Bikes
-----Human powered land vehicles
------Powered land vehicles
-------Land Vehicles
--------Vehicles
---------Manufactured products
----------Manmade products
-----------Inanimate objects

Ok, teacher!  Grade my paper!

All "inanimate objects" are now "manmade products"
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Galaxies
-Spiral galaxies
--Barred spiral galaxies
---Milky Way galaxy
----Stars
-----Yellow dwarf stars
------Yellow dwarf stars with planets
-------Our Sun
--------Planet Earth
---------Natural objects
----------Manmade objects
-----------Made in factories
------------Vehicles
-------------Rolls
--------------Bicycle
---------------Schwinn 10 speed

What's wrong with this?
This thread is seven months old...  Dave is impenetrable.
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Selling windows to people who come into Sears wanting to buy windows...  Super impressive.
Not exactly. Someone cold calls potential customers. When they get a nibble, they send Dave out to the address. So yes the customer is pre-disposed to buy what is being sold by the time he gets there, but they haven't gone anywhere to ask for the item, typically.

That's how it has worked in my experience, at least.
Fair enough.  I don't recall him ever talking about outside sales.  :dunno:
He drives all over hell's half-acre (sustainably!), MO. I think he averages around 700 miles a week IIRC. The old Volvo died under the stress.
Heh.  Shows how closely I read this forum these days...
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Selling windows to people who come into Sears wanting to buy windows...   Super impressive.
Not exactly. Someone cold calls potential customers. When they get a nibble, they send Dave out to the address. So yes the customer is pre-disposed to buy what is being sold by the time he gets there, but they haven't gone anywhere to ask for the item, typically.

That's how it has worked in my experience, at least.
Fair enough.  I don't recall him ever talking about outside sales.   :dunno:
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He's at least more capable of producing coherent sentences.

I'd bet Dave would be as coherent as Trump if you were talking to him face to face or an interviewer where he couldn't hide like he can on the internet.
Lol ... that's why I do so poorly in sales. Oh wait.
Really?!?
Post your tax returns for the past couple of years or it's just more bullshit.
Selling windows to people who come into Sears wanting to buy windows...   Super impressive.
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Donald Trump thinks he invented the phrase 'priming the pump.'

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/11/politics/donald-trump-priming-the-pump/
Donald Trump thinks he invented the phrase 'priming the pump.' That's telling.

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By Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large
Updated 10:29 AM ET, Thu May 11, 2017

President Donald Trump walks from Marine One across the South Lawn to the White House in Washington, Sunday, May 7, 2017, as he returns from Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, N.J.

There's a very odd -- and telling -- moment in President Donald Trump's interview with The Economist released Thursday morning. Here it is:
TRUMP: We have to prime the pump.
ECONOMIST: It's very Keynesian.
TRUMP: We're the highest-taxed nation in the world. Have you heard that expression before, for this particular type of an event?
ECONOMIST: Priming the pump?
TRUMP: Yeah, have you heard it?
ECONOMIST: Yes.
TRUMP: Have you heard that expression used before? Because I haven't heard it. I mean, I just...I came up with it a couple of days ago and I thought it was good. It's what you have to do.
From that same interview:
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The state governments are in much better position to, you know, help people. In terms of, you know, just the size, the mere size of it. But we're putting in $8bn and you're going to have absolute coverage. You're going to have absolute guaranteed coverage. You're going to have it if you're a person going in...don't forget, this was not supposed to be the way insurance works.
Oooh.  32 dollars per American per year...
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Insurance is, you're 20 years old, you just graduated from college, and you start paying $15 a month for the rest of your life and by the time you're 70, and you really need it, you're still paying the same amount and that's really insurance.
Surprise, surprise.  Trump has no idea how much health insurance costs, or how it works...
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... I may copy them into my permanent saved files at some point.  ... I will have to look for that paragraph as well and copy it into my permanent files.
Your "permanent files" must be a goldmine of tard.
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It works as long as we are not talking about 100% certainties.  We cannot be 100% certain about talking snake stories for example, because we have no corroboration from our experience.
This is the dumbest thing I'll read all day.
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Besides Jones, Greenberg keeps coming up in my reading on the topic of linguistics ... here's an interesting snippet from someone who is not a biblical literalist but who seems to give a bit more credence to Moses' writings than the mainstream ... I give kudos to anyone like that because I think the mainstream is batshit insane when it comes to evaluating the books of Moses ...

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In 1786 oriental scholar Sir William Jones, at that time a British judge in India, saw similarities between Sanskrit (a language of India), Greek and Latin which indicated: "a stronger affinity, both in the roots of verbs and in the forms of grammar than could have been produced by accident."

Since 1786 the Indo-European language family has become the most-studied language group. It's now generally accepted that this group arose from an ancestral language called Proto-Indo-European about 7,000 years ago. At least forty other language families besides Indo-European (and maybe as many as 200) are now recognised. Within each family there is proof of common ancestry. However, links between the forty or so families have not been decisively demonstrated.

However, some "superfamilies" are being proposed. "Nostratic", for example, is defined as the superfamily which includes the language families of Indo-European, Hamitic, Semitic, Uralic, Altaic and (possibly) Korean.

The procedure of seeking "regular correspondences"- which are common attributes in sounds, words and grammar, or consistent differences - permits a few languages to be compared at one time. Conclusions and classifications are built up step by step. This is the "bottom up" approach of the historical linguists. The precision means that the "signal" fades beyond about 6,000 years ago and reconstruction of earlier language is not considered possible.

Joseph Greenberg (b.1914), of Stanford University, California, uses a different approach in classifying languages, called "multilateral comparison". It involves comparing many languages simultaneously and seeking similarities and patterns.

For example, the 25 major languages of modern Europe could be classified just by using their words for "one", "two", "three", "head", "eye", "ear", "nose", "mouth", "tooth". This is a "top down" approach which Greenberg suspects may eventually reach back 100,000 years to the Mother Tongue of all language groups - if there ever was one Mother Tongue.

In the l.950s Greenberg used his "multilateral comparison" to successfully classify African languages. More recently he classified 600 American Indian languages into three language families these being Eskimo-Aleut (of the extreme North of North America), Na-Dene (North West of North America), and Amerind (rest of North America plus South America). This classification has caused much debate since other linguists using the "bottom up" method insist on about 155 language families. (Lewin 1990) This difference chiefly accounts for my earlier statement estimating the language families between 40 and 200.

In effect Greenberg has unified, or believes he has unified, 3/4 of all language families into three superfamilies. These three superfamilies are believed to represent three ancient separate migrations from Asia into America.

The remaining 40 or so language families have also been tentatively grouped in various ways into six or eight superfamilies making about ten superfamilies in all.

One relevance of the classification battle between linguists is whether the tracing of language groups will stop at about 5000 BC or whether a single ancient Mother Tongue could potentially be uncovered. http://ed5015.tripod.com/BBabelLinguistics24.htm

Note in particular the bolded.  What I glean from this is that Greenberg has reduced the accepted number of families and it sounds like his goal is to see if he can uncover a single proto language.

My view is that he will never succeed in uncovering a single language but rather he will succeed in reducing the number of super families to perhaps 3 or 4 ... but not 1.

What is your view?  Is a single language a prediction of the ToE?  Or what?


^^^^^^
No.