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Messages - Martin.au

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Are you people making the mistake of thinking Dave actually has a plan? I always thought he just ad-hoc-ed from one shiny to another, without concern for contradiction, and just rationalised his decision post-hoc.
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Anyways Dave,  I'm disappointed in you for not being actually concerned with truth when you go all soapbox about it. There's a reason fundamentalist Christians are so reviled by the rest of us. Your ethics are disturbing. You lie to yourselves and to those around you and want to tell other people what to believe based on only your assertions. Well, your assertions are retarded and your lies in their service would only be funny if they weren't so damaging to humanity.

Fundy Christians. Can't live with 'em, can't feed 'em to the lions anymore.
You're an idiot.  Of course I'm concerned with truth.  And one of the biggest truths around is ... there was a Global Flood.


Is that a Truth, capital T, as in cannot be refuted?
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5' per century is fast. That's about 5x the current rate. I wonder if that's purely eustatic.

ETA: Just read the page. Looks like subsidence plays a role too.
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Well, except for Science.  Science does the research.

And this is why, when writing sample numbers, or survey points or other such things, finish off your number with a period/decimal point/underline or something!!!
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Where's the evidence that all those DIFFERENT formations are one continuous sheet? (Let alone one "extraordinarily thin" or  "extraordinarily flat" one?  :dunno:
Who decided that they are "DIFFERENT"? Based upon what? "I'm a geologist and I live in Potsdam, New York ... hmm I think I'll name this sandstone 'Potsdam' ..."

Different basins for starters.
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As always, researching Dave's nonsense results in learning something interesting. 

Here is a cross section of the American Fork Canyon which contains some of Dave's Tintic Quartzite. 

Note that it is at the bottom of a huge amount of sediment on the South side of the canyon, but sitting right on top of the Mutual Formation on the North side.  This cartoon is confirmed by looking at the USGS data for the region (green square).    (this is a really beautiful website BTW, if you're actually interested in Geology and don't think that having googled the names of a few things gives you specific knowledge of those things...   https://geology.utah.gov/apps/intgeomap/#)





I'm sure Dave won't see the fault in his thinking.
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"describe what in detail?"

Lol

The cheese that the moon is made of.

Which "continent sized sandstone layer" are you hoping to prove the extent of? Time period? Anything?

Or just your second law in action?
The one which is called "Tapeats" in the area of the Grand Canyon.  It's called Tintic Quartzite in central Utah,  in northeastern Utah it is the Lodore Quartzite; in Wyoming and Montana it is the Flathead Sandstone; in Colorado it is the Sawatch Sandstone; in South Dakota it is the Deadwood Quartzite; in the Midwest it is the St. Simon Sandstone; in the Ozarks it is the Lamotte Sandstone; and in northern New York state it is the Potsdam Sandstone.

That one.

Stop playing dumb.


Well that isn't continent sized. As per the evidence you presented earlier in the thread from Sloss, that marine transgression didn't cover the continent.

So what's your next move???

And maybe next time, just answer the question rather than being snarky. Seems the one who's playing dumb is you.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Shooting in Vegas
I hear one shooter.

Those whipcrack sounds are rounds passing close, not the sound of firing. When a rifle is fired and you're downrange, the first sound you'll hear is the bullet passing (whip crack), then a moment later you hear the gunshot. If you're really quick witted, you can use the time gap to estimate range.
if I'm understanding correctly, we're talking about supersonic bullets, and the two sounds you hear are 1) the shock wave of the passing bullet, followed by 2) the muzzle blast, which comes later because it's been plodding along at the speed of sound

Yep.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Shooting in Vegas
wait there is a conspiracy? what's the tl;dr?

FX is an idiot.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Shooting in Vegas
I hear one shooter.

Those whipcrack sounds are rounds passing close, not the sound of firing. When a rifle is fired and you're downrange, the first sound you'll hear is the bullet passing (whip crack), then a moment later you hear the gunshot. If you're really quick witted, you can use the time gap to estimate range.
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"describe what in detail?"

Lol

The cheese that the moon is made of.

Which "continent sized sandstone layer" are you hoping to prove the extent of? Time period? Anything?

Or just your second law in action?
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OK so I have to do some work proving to you the extent and characteristics of this continent sized sandstone layer ...
not a whole lot. Quite a bit of it is already known and is entirely consistent with the standard model.
Hahahahaha

Sure it is.

Can you (a) describe it in detail? (b) tell how it's consistent with the "standard model"?

No, you can't.  You're bluffing again.


Describe what in detail Dave?

And yeah, of course it (assuming "it" is Dave's rather vague specification of large sedimentary layers) is consistent with the standard model. Where do you think the standard model came from.
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:911:

I learned a new skillset partly because I considered my job likely to suffer to some degree from automation.
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The thing about an objective reality, is that it doesn't go away when you don't look at it.

or, as Philip K Dick put it:
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away"
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I can just imagine Dave trying to make a robopen for sauropods. :grin:
The scientists only thought about whether they could. They didn't stop to consider whether they should.

You can tell a thread has reached just the right level of maturity - when the Jurassic Park quotes come out. :D
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Dammit.dinosaur stuff should go in the greatest hits thread. Dave,I presume that there would be no dinosaurs clearing Missouri, as Missouri (as it is now) is post fludde and dinosaurs aren't?
Dinosaurs lived post Flood.

When did they die out?
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Dammit.dinosaur stuff should go in the greatest hits thread. Dave,I presume that there would be no dinosaurs clearing Missouri, as Missouri (as it is now) is post fludde and dinosaurs aren't?
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I'm actually quite chuffed about this. There's probably scope for winning money by betting people you can count to 1,600 on your fingers.

Jesuschrist. The things you Australians will do for money.



ETA: you're worse than the Irish.

I reckon you're right os. However you need the right pub and someone happy to wait for you to count to 1600. :D
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I wonder if this is an artefact from Dave's (home?) schooling. It would be fairly easy to teach someone that base = number system, and miss the fact that base refers to the process of how things are counted, and the number system is essentially just (the semantics -lol) the map to the count.

This is why when the number system doesn't link up with the base you need symbols to demonstrate the divisions.

192 vs 5'11" vs 1/8/17 vs 95°55'67"

Which of course leads to:
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Dave
Metric system (cm and m) is base .......?
Feet and inches is base ..........?
Hours, minutes, seconds is base ..........?
Angular degrees is base .......?
Hexadecimal is base ..........?
Duodecimal is base ............?
Binary is base ............?

Go for it

Come on Dave. Dont be shy.
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And once a year or so someone will provide the link to this thread and say "Look how stupid Dave was about base 12" ...  this sort of behavior has become normal in my 12 years or so arguing with Darwinists.

The gift that keeps on giving.
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Dave
Metric system (cm and m) is base .......?
Feet and inches is base ..........?
Hours, minutes, seconds is base ..........?
Angular degrees is base .......?
Hexadecimal is base ..........?
Duodecimal is base ............?
Binary is base ............?

Go for it

Bump for Dave.
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I think I should bookmark this thread. It's turning into Dave's greatest hits.