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The Budget Apocalypse
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trump-federal-budget-2018-massive-cuts-to-the-arts-science-and-the-poor/2017/03/15/0a0a0094-09a1-11e7-a15f-a58d4a988474_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-banner-main_b-budget-12am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

This is fucking evil.

Press conference garbage:



Untrue.



The real problem with America is that we feed seniors who need food and companionship by STEALING MONEY from single mom of 2 in Detroit but also we're going to get rid of Head Start and free breakfast in schools and after school programs that feed those same kids of single mom of 2 in Detroit.

I feel legit sick to my stomach listening to these people.

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I've been watching this budget stuff on CNN. It's not exaggerating to call it evil. On their very worst days I would never expect a Conservative government in Canada, or really any other first world country, to be this ruthlessly cruel.

ETA: And stupid.

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Meals on Wheels doesn't work? Yeah, I guess all those ungrateful old fucks take their free meals and then they just get hungry ALL OVER AGAIN like 6 hours later what the fuck is up with that?

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Oh boy, another legendary Spicer quote!

"There's this assumption in Washington if you get less money, it's a cut."

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Alternate Budgeting!

though keep in mind that Trump's budget isn't even really a budget at all but a half-assed partial outline of a budget that's light even by half-assed partial WH budget standards, and multiple Congressional R's have said various parts are DOA.

We're probably going to be keeping the government running via continuing resolutions for a while.

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Well, I'm finding a lot of duplicity all over the place every time you open your mouth, now that you mention it. :hmm:

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I just want to say that all those over-60s who voted for trump are getting their just fucking desserts.

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Meals on Wheels doesn't work? Yeah, I guess all those ungrateful old fucks take their free meals and then they just get hungry ALL OVER AGAIN like 6 hours later what the fuck is up with that?
it's CHINESE FOOD. Whadya expect?
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Medical, science research faces huge cuts under Trump budget
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The National Institutes of Health budget would be cut by $5.8 billion, meaning it would lose about 20%. The Environmental Protection Agency would face $2.6 billion in cuts, that's 31% of the agency's budget. The Department of Energy would lose $900 million, or about 20% of its budget. Health and Human Services would see a $15.1 billion or 18% budget cut; as part of that, it shifts costs to industry from the Food and Drug Administration budget. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration would face an 18% budget cut.
Making America Great Again!  :911:
"I understand Donald Trump better than many people because I really am a lot like him." - Dave Hawkins

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Ummmmm, pretty sure that we can use the $1.5 trillion F-35 project to both bomb cancer and infectious diseases and to drop food on old people and kids, guys.

Heh, who's the fucking dummy now?

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What's great about our already obscene military budget is that we waste insane amounts of money on dumb shit like the F-35 while our actual day-to-day equipment for run of the mill troops is beat to shit and worn out after 15+ years of war in the desert.

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if they're not smart enough to loot the corpses of fallen enemies what good are they

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That's pretty fucked up (Not you, TBM, the budget).
"That which can be asserted with evidence can also be dismissed without evidence." (Dave Hawkins)

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:rofl:
Truth is out of style

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Anyway, here are some things about the programs these morons would like to get rid of:

Appalachian Regional Commission:
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A February 2015 evaluation of the agency's work showed that in the past 50 years, the ARC's $3.8 billion invested in non-highway related programs resulted in 312,000 jobs and $10.5 billion in additional earnings. Because of its work, the agency told the Lexington Herald Ledger, the number of high-poverty counties in Appalachia dropped from 295 in 1960 to 84 in 2017. The overall poverty rate also decreased since the ARC's founding, from 30 percent to under 17 percent. "We're doing what we said we would do since 1965," Wasserman said, "which is invest in Appalachia's potential." Without federal funding, she said, the ARC literally would not exist.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/03/why-the-appalachian-regional-commission-matters/519876/

Manufacturing Extension Partnership:

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The MEP, launched in 1988 under the Reagan administration, received $143 million this year from the Commerce Department, or 43 cents per taxpayer. The program estimated its impact in a report this year. "For every one dollar of federal investment, the MEP national network generates $17.9 in new sales growth for manufacturers," the authors wrote. ". . . For every $1,501 of federal investment, MEP creates or retains one manufacturing job."

Denny Dotson, the chairman of Dotson Iron Castings in Mankato, Minn., said his company probably would have died without the program's help.

"They helped us and so many manufacturers stay competitive in today's international climate," he said. "We grew."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/03/16/trump-has-surprising-plans-for-a-program-that-has-been-saving-manufacturing-jobs-for-30-years

The NEA/NEH:
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But eliminating the NEA would also have a very real cost. Its grants are bestowed to all 50 states in the nation, in all congressional districts. Forty percent of the NEA's budget goes directly to states to spend for themselves, with the proviso that they match the funds dollar for dollar via their own arts agencies--encouraging a further investment in the arts at the state level. Just as significantly, 65 percent of the NEA's direct grants go to small and medium-sized arts groups, keeping the arts alive in rural and underserved communities. It's here where the agency's elimination would be most keenly felt, at organizations largely ignored by private donors, but which bring the arts to audiences including veterans and schoolchildren, often in impoverished neighborhoods.

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Currently, 40 percent of NEA-supported activities take place in high-poverty neighborhoods, with 36 percent of grants going to underserved populations including programs for veterans and people with disabilities. In the last five decades, the NEA has nurtured grassroots organizations that existed off the radar of private donors, while bringing them prestige and attention that has helped them raise their profiles. It has also pioneered partnerships with other agencies, like the NEA Military Healing Arts Network, which supports art therapy for wounded veterans, active military members, and their families. This kind of work can and should be bipartisan: Vice President Mike Pence's wife, Karen Pence, announced on Inauguration Day that art therapy was one of her official causes.

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/03/what-eliminating-the-arts-and-humanities-endowments-would-really-mean/519774/

NASA Office of Education:

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Leland Melvin was, in his own words, "a skinny kid from public schools in Lynchburg, Va., who never in my wildest dreams thought of being an astronaut." Boys like him aimed to become athletes, and that's where Melvin seemed headed: He went to college on a football scholarship and got drafted by the Detroit Lions after graduation.

But then Melvin found out about NASA's Graduate Student Researchers Project, which would pay for him to take night classes for a master's degree in materials science engineering. When a hamstring injury derailed his football career, he had science to fall back on. Melvin got a job building sensors for rockets at Langley Research Center, then a second fellowship from NASA that allowed him to take more engineering courses. Eventually Melvin became associate administrator for the NASA Office of Education, which runs the same programs that funded his education.

In between, he flew to the International Space Station aboard the space shuttle. Twice.

"If it hadn't been for NASA Education I wouldn't have been funded to go to school, to work at NASA Langley, to become an astronaut," Melvin said.

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Though the Science Mission Directorate and the individual NASA centers operate some outreach programs, the Office of Education is responsible for coordinating those efforts. It also runs a space camp for children, develops curriculums for teachers, and funds scholarships and fellowships for young scientists, particularly women and underrepresented minorities. The office's biggest initiative is the $40 million Space Grant program, which funded Forczyk's internships.

"A lot of times the only way women or minorities can actually succeed is through these grants," Forczyk said. "It's the only way they continue getting funding."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/03/16/trump-wants-to-kill-nasa-office-popular-with-congress-astronauts-and-kids/

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This is fucking evil.
In combination with the excessive costs for frequent Mar-a-Lago vacations and security at Trump Tower, it does send a pretty clear message.

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With stuff like this, I always try and imagine the society that occurs as an end result (assuming no intervention). I often look to distopian films as a way to summarise my opinion.

Dredd (2012) is too socialist for this budget.
Snowpiercer is a better approximation. Separate the poor from the rich, and let the poor starve.
"That which can be asserted with evidence can also be dismissed without evidence." (Dave Hawkins)

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Alternate Budgeting!

though keep in mind that Trump's budget isn't even really a budget at all but a half-assed partial outline of a budget that's light even by half-assed partial WH budget standards, and multiple Congressional R's have said various parts are DOA.

We're probably going to be keeping the government running via continuing resolutions for a while.
who knew the federal budget was so complicated?

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Fake news! Trump would never use words like "realistic", "elderly" and "evaporate".
Who even made the rule that we cannot group ducks and fish together for the simple reason that they are both aquatic? If I want to group them that way and it serves my purpose then I can jolly well do it however I want to and it is still a nested hierarchy and you can't tell me that it's not.

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all the republican congresspeople commenting on the budget are politely suggesting they're going to edit this liberally

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What's amazing about this shitty proposal is how blatant its class warfare is. It's like someone sat down and thought, hrm, what's the best way to completely and utterly fuck the rural "forgotten" voters who helped put Trump into office? Beyond the expected attacks on things like the arts/humanities and programs that help poor people and children in cities, there's all that extra shit in there attacking the manufacturers, coal miners, farmers, etc. that were proudly wearing their idiot MAGA caps.

all the republican congresspeople commenting on the budget are politely suggesting they're going to edit this liberally

phew, well it's a good thing we can trust the GOP to defend the poor and disadvantaged from these harsh cuts.

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It's kinda weird that the only voters who will ever educate themselves on what this budget actually does are the ones we who voted democrat or who will end up with the windfall.
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Love is like a magic penny
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if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor