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Another thing he talked about was something like Why do cops always empty their clips when they shoot?  What happened to disabling or incapacitating the suspect by shooting the knee? 
And I think he said it before Michael Brown was shot.

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Another thing he talked about was something like Why do cops always empty their clips when they shoot?  What happened to disabling or incapacitating the suspect by shooting the knee? 
And I think he said it before Michael Brown was shot.
There's a good reason for shooting for center-of-mass; most shooters are not very well trained (in this and many other aspects really).
And the empty clip is the adrenaline of the situation taking over.

With those two statements above it's a wonder we "trust" officers of the law with handguns in the first place.

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You don't use your firearm when you're attempting to disable/incapacitate someone.  Cops have other tools for those jobs.  They shouldn't even be pulling their firearm unless someone is under serious threat.


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You don't use your firearm when you're attempting to disable/incapacitate someone.  Cops have other tools for those jobs.  They shouldn't even be pulling their firearm unless someone is under serious threat.

I'm am pleased ravenscape was able to restore and archive the old TR forum; so damian's brilliant solution to gunfire conflict was  to "fire a warning shot into a pillow", was not lost forever.
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Yeah but with practice it gets easier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R46z3yXaStM

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Probably not the best thing to practice.
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I have a life challenge to find compassion for cops. This isn't doing it. My cynical side suspects that the cops will use this as an excuse and the streets may very well run red with blood. After the acquittal of Freddy Gray's driver I am far too disgusted to cry for a dead cop.
Does this help?  I'm an emotionless bot, but I'm told some people found this moving.


No where does it mention the black people his 'brothers' killed the last couple days. Fuck 'em.

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Probably not the best thing to practice.
Reading?

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Natasha's post was moving to me. Hopeful? Maybe.

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There is no such thing as a good cop. Only less bad ones. . . .
If that's true, it's true of all people.
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I'd prefer no one got shot but when people who carry guns get shot it's karma motherfuckers.
Karma is just another kind of woo woo term. It's not karma, it's just the actions of some person pushed to his/her breaking point..

Our system is broken and the reasons aren't that hard to see.
Corruption leads to injustice. Injustice leads to mistrust. Mistrust leads to a breakdown of the rule of law and therefore the breakdown of society.

I for one hope we can reverse this trend without a lot of violence. If we can't solve the corruption peacefully then violence will solve it as it has throughout history. Violence increases gradually, as we are now seeing. It will reach a tipping point where the "dam" breaks and there is no stopping it. Everyone will reach a breaking point. Karma? No, it's just human nature. Those in authority still feel protected, but those who are protecting them (the police) are themselves feeling less safe everyday.
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No. It's Karma. I'm pretty sure of that.
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No. It's Karma. I'm pretty sure of that.
Whatever

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Shit scrolling my FB feed. I cannot attest to its veracity. I post; you decide

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I found this interesting: Police unnecessarily kill a third black man this week, threaten to kill more.

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Police had cornered a murder suspect. There were negotiations and there was exchange of gunfire.

Normally this stand off would have been maintained as long as possible. The way these things end, usually, is that the suspect gives up, the suspect kills themselves, there is what the police would call a "fair" exchange of gunfire* and the suspect is wounded or killed, etc.

But the police had a new tool they could use to shorten the time span for such standoffs. They blew the suspect up with a bomb delivered specifically for that purpose. A robot drove over to the suspect, got the bomb near him, and blew him up.

This means that the police had a method of killing people that involved bombs ready to go. They would not think up a new technology and deploy it in a high profile case unless they already had a method of deploying it and a reasonably good idea it would work.

This was the Dallas police department. I would like to know how many different police departments have bombs designed to kill suspects ready to go. How many police departments have the robots at the ready, how many have been engaged in training programs. I would like to see copies of the protocols for using bombs to kill suspects, and I'd like to know which legal or legislative authorities have been involved in developing those protocols.

As far as I can tell, this is homicide. There were other ways to do this. There were no hostages being held. No one was being protected by killing this suspect at that time.
I had already been wondering about this point, as soon as I heard about the robot being used to deliver the bomb.

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As the events in Dallas unfolded last night, a police expert (former top cop guy of some kind) issued an explicit threat to all Americans. He said that given the assassination of several Dallas Police officers, police around the country were going to do two things.

First, they would double up or get into larger groups, so there would be fewer units to respond to calls, and maybe some reluctance to respond to certain calls. So, forget about the police doing their jobs. In many areas they already don't do their jobs. But in the few places they were doing their jobs, perhaps expect this to become a thing of the past.

Second, he said they wold be much more trigger happy an more likely to kill when they do show up to do their jobs.

Essentially the police response to being the rare victim (instead of perpetrator, as they commonly are) of random killing of innocent people is to stop protecting people from such violence, and increase the amount of such violence that they themselves carry out.

So, that's where we are at right now.
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Shit scrolling my FB feed. I cannot attest to its veracity. I post; you decide
I thought maybe you got it from the post 4 posts above yours.
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