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FUNdy here
What's happening? My name says it all.

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Hello.  Are you new to TR?

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FUNdy AKA oftenbuzzard ... been away a long time.

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What flavor of Fundy are you?

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FUNdy AKA oftenbuzzard ... been away a long time.

Family all well, and yourself?

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FUNdy AKA oftenbuzzard ... been away a long time.

Family all well, and yourself?

Likewise!

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What flavor of Fundy are you?

Doctrinal but not attitudinal.

1. The inspiration and inerrancy of Scripture
2. The deity of Jesus Christ
3. The virgin birth of Christ
4. The substitutionary, atoning work of Christ on the cross
5. The physical resurrection and the personal bodily return of Christ to the earth.

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Meh, you're no fun.
Who even made the rule that we cannot group ducks and fish together for the simple reason that they are both aquatic? If I want to group them that way and it serves my purpose then I can jolly well do it however I want to and it is still a nested hierarchy and you can't tell me that it's not.

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What flavor of Fundy are you?

Doctrinal but not attitudinal.
Well, you got balls kid. I'll give you that much.

So I think I get what you mean by saying you're a doctrinal fundy, but it's that attitudinal part that throws me a bit. Every fundy I've encountered seems to have an attitude of certainty about their beliefs. Is that not the case for you?

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FUNdy AKA oftenbuzzard ... been away a long time.

Family all well, and yourself?

Likewise!

Good.  :)

Have thought of you now and then.

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What flavor of Fundy are you?

Doctrinal but not attitudinal.
Well, you got balls kid. I'll give you that much.

So I think I get what you mean by saying you're a doctrinal fundy, but it's that attitudinal part that throws me a bit. Every fundy I've encountered seems to have an attitude of certainty about their beliefs. Is that not the case for you?

I have certainty about my beliefs (I have a ThM and PhD in Historical Theology) ; by attitude I mean I don't go Westboro Baptist on folks and I have friends who do not share my views.

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I have certainty about my beliefs (I have a ThM and PhD in Historical Theology) ; by attitude I mean I don't go Westboro Baptist on folks and I have friends who do not share my views.
Well, so you're intelligent and educated. That's a good thing, I think. And also good to lack the bigotry and hatred that seems to drive the Westboro Baptist folks to do some pretty ugly stuff. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

But do you then share their doctrinal belief that homosexuality (for instance) is an abomination to god?

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I have certainty about my beliefs (I have a ThM and PhD in Historical Theology) ; by attitude I mean I don't go Westboro Baptist on folks and I have friends who do not share my views.
Well, so you're intelligent and educated. That's a good thing, I think. And also good to lack the bigotry and hatred that seems to drive the Westboro Baptist folks to do some pretty ugly stuff. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

But do you then share their doctrinal belief that homosexuality (for instance) is an abomination to god?


I believe Romans 1 and I also believe 1 Cor. 6:11.
I believe my sin is an abomination to God.

btw, I also have an engineering degree from Ga Tech, which makes me a hell uv a engineer.

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Shouldn't the combo make you a heavenly engineer? :D

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Shouldn't the combo make you a heavenly engineer? :D

Like that! Ga Tech drives you to your knees. I worked on a church staff where three of us (pastors) were Industrial Engineers from Ga Tech.

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I believe Romans 1 and I also believe 1 Cor. 6:11.
I believe my sin is an abomination to God.

btw, I also have an engineering degree from Ga Tech, which makes me a hell uv a engineer.
Wow, I'm impressed with you for both the amount of knowledge and achievement and in another way impressed with how someone so intelligent can at the same time accept a thing (god) without any evidence and yet reject your own self. That's pretty fucked up.


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Actually, I reject my sin, not myself. I believe I am created in the image of God (as are my fellow humans).

And I do agree with Isaac Newton, "in the absence of any other proof, the thumb alone would convince me of God's existence"? (Ya took me back to Romans 1:20 ff.)

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What flavor of Fundy are you?

Doctrinal but not attitudinal.
Well, you got balls kid. I'll give you that much.

So I think I get what you mean by saying you're a doctrinal fundy, but it's that attitudinal part that throws me a bit. Every fundy I've encountered seems to have an attitude of certainty about their beliefs. Is that not the case for you?

I have certainty about my beliefs (I have a ThM and PhD in Historical Theology) ; by attitude I mean I don't go Westboro Baptist on folks and I have friends who do not share my views.

Everyone is wrong about something.
Imagine two people who are wrong about something.
One person is certain the other is not.
Which one do you think will go from being wrong to being right.

OTOH imagine two people are right about something.
Is the one that is not certain likely to go from being right to being wrong?
Probably not.

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Actually, I reject my sin, not myself. I believe I am created in the image of God (as are my fellow humans).

And I do agree with Isaac Newton, "in the absence of any other proof, the thumb alone would convince me of God's existence"? (Ya took me back to Romans 1:20 ff.)
What about fetal testicles being where fish testicles are?
It causes a weak spot in the abdomen.

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And welcome aboard.

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What flavor of Fundy are you?

Doctrinal but not attitudinal.
Well, you got balls kid. I'll give you that much.

So I think I get what you mean by saying you're a doctrinal fundy, but it's that attitudinal part that throws me a bit. Every fundy I've encountered seems to have an attitude of certainty about their beliefs. Is that not the case for you?

I have certainty about my beliefs (I have a ThM and PhD in Historical Theology) ; by attitude I mean I don't go Westboro Baptist on folks and I have friends who do not share my views.

Everyone is wrong about something.
Imagine two people who are wrong about something.
One person is certain the other is not.
Which one do you think will go from being wrong to being right.

OTOH imagine two people are right about something.
Is the one that is not certain likely to go from being right to being wrong?
Probably not.


Not sure I follow this. And I have not done research on fish or fetal testicles. But I do thank you for the welcome.

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What flavor of Fundy are you?

Doctrinal but not attitudinal.

1. The inspiration and inerrancy of Scripture
2. The deity of Jesus Christ
3. The virgin birth of Christ
4. The substitutionary, atoning work of Christ on the cross
5. The physical resurrection and the personal bodily return of Christ to the earth.
Whatever floats your boat. I believe in sex drugs and rock and roll and I am positive I'm going to heaven.
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

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Actually, I reject my sin, not myself. I believe I am created in the image of God (as are my fellow humans).
Well, for me you are interesting for your ability to reject yourself, your gayness in this case.  Sorry if I misread your earlier comment to say that you are gay.  But I accept as fact that one's sexuality is determined mostly by the genetics and is therefore not a choice, not a "sin".

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And I do agree with Isaac Newton, "in the absence of any other proof, the thumb alone would convince me of God's existence"? (Ya took me back to Romans 1:20 ff.)
Well, okay. I remember during my years as a tried-to-believer that such things only piqued my interest, but finally very far from convincing me. But I do appreciate your honesty towards expressing your beliefs. Myself possessing a good appreciation for engineering and architecture, I can relate to you a bit more.

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What flavor of Fundy are you?

Doctrinal but not attitudinal.

1. The inspiration and inerrancy of Scripture
2. The deity of Jesus Christ
3. The virgin birth of Christ
4. The substitutionary, atoning work of Christ on the cross
5. The physical resurrection and the personal bodily return of Christ to the earth.
Whatever floats your boat. I believe in sex drugs and rock and roll and I am positive I'm going to heaven.

I did catch a live Jethro Tull concert a few years back.

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Actually, I reject my sin, not myself. I believe I am created in the image of God (as are my fellow humans).
Well, for me you are interesting for your ability to reject yourself, your gayness in this case.  Sorry if I misread your earlier comment to say that you are gay.  But I accept as fact that one's sexuality is determined mostly by the genetics and is therefore not a choice, not a "sin".

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And I do agree with Isaac Newton, "in the absence of any other proof, the thumb alone would convince me of God's existence"? (Ya took me back to Romans 1:20 ff.)
Well, okay. I remember during my years as a tried-to-believer that such things only piqued my interest, but finally very far from convincing me. But I do appreciate your honesty towards expressing your beliefs. Myself possessing a good appreciation for engineering and architecture, I can relate to you a bit more.

Thanks for the kind words.

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Am now jealous re the Jethro tull concert.

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Am now jealous re the Jethro tull concert.
The dude can still play a one legged flute.

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I am seriously jealous. :D I'd love to hear him live.

Best I can respond with is that a friend and I got to see the Moody Blues play a couple years ago, and it was a deeply nostalgic experience. Also the lead singer had just turned 70, still had that voice, and was really appreciative of his back up musicians, showcasing each of them at some point. Nice to see. Most grey and white hair ever seen in that particular concert venue though.

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What flavor of Fundy are you?

Doctrinal but not attitudinal.
Well, you got balls kid. I'll give you that much.

So I think I get what you mean by saying you're a doctrinal fundy, but it's that attitudinal part that throws me a bit. Every fundy I've encountered seems to have an attitude of certainty about their beliefs. Is that not the case for you?

I have certainty about my beliefs (I have a ThM and PhD in Historical Theology) ; by attitude I mean I don't go Westboro Baptist on folks and I have friends who do not share my views.

Everyone is wrong about something.
Imagine two people who are wrong about something.
One person is certain the other is not.
Which one do you think will go from being wrong to being right.

OTOH imagine two people are right about something.
Is the one that is not certain likely to go from being right to being wrong?
Probably not.


Not sure I follow this. And I have not done research on fish or fetal testicles. But I do thank you for the welcome.

Why do things in such a way as to cause problems?
OTOH, evolution is a simple explanation for the weak spot you have in your abdominal wall. (assuming you are male)

And then there are hiccups and inside out eyes. (except in Cephalopoda)

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Jetro Tull is a band, not a person.

Ian Anderson performed near me recently, but tickets were pretty expensive so we chose not to go.

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What flavor of Fundy are you?

Doctrinal but not attitudinal.

1. The inspiration and inerrancy of Scripture
2. The deity of Jesus Christ
3. The virgin birth of Christ
4. The substitutionary, atoning work of Christ on the cross
5. The physical resurrection and the personal bodily return of Christ to the earth.
Whatever floats your boat. I believe in sex drugs and rock and roll and I am positive I'm going to heaven.

I did catch a live Jethro Tull concert a few years back.
nice. They've got to be pretty old by now, eh? Good show?
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

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The show was excellent. They did the entire Thick as a Brick album. Anderson was outstanding... I went with my grown son who is also a Tull fan. (I raised him right on music.)

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Everyone is wrong about something.
Imagine two people who are wrong about something.
One person is certain the other is not.
Which one do you think will go from being wrong to being right.

OTOH imagine two people are right about something.
Is the one that is not certain likely to go from being right to being wrong?
Probably not.

Meant to ask if this is something you wrote yourself? Not only can I follow it, but I really like it. Makes the point about certainty simple and clear. And yet FUNdy with all his/her degrees and knowledge missed it.

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FUNdy AKA oftenbuzzard ... been away a long time.

Sup Buzz.

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Nothing like a DB crash to bring old members back into the fold.

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Am now jealous re the Jethro tull concert.
I won free tickets to Tull in Kansas City back in 2007-ish. Fantastic show in a relatively small venue, also turned me (and mostly my wife) onto the amazing Lucia Micarelli.:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHsxmjpkeFI

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Everyone is wrong about something.
Imagine two people who are wrong about something.
One person is certain the other is not.
Which one do you think will go from being wrong to being right.

OTOH imagine two people are right about something.
Is the one that is not certain likely to go from being right to being wrong?
Probably not.

Meant to ask if this is something you wrote yourself? Not only can I follow it, but I really like it. Makes the point about certainty simple and clear. And yet FUNdy with all his/her degrees and knowledge missed it.
Hi just saw this.
Yes I wrote that.

It only took me a few decades of mental anguish, dogged obsession, and toil to come up with it.
And it's actually aimed at managers not fundies.
A lot of managers say "if you are not sure then ask".
Meanwhile it's the people who are sure that screw things up, not the onest that are not sure.
And it's the people that are sure that become managers.
Hmmmm  I think I might see a potential problem here.

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Everyone is wrong about something.
Imagine two people who are wrong about something.
One person is certain the other is not.
Which one do you think will go from being wrong to being right.

OTOH imagine two people are right about something.
Is the one that is not certain likely to go from being right to being wrong?
Probably not.

Meant to ask if this is something you wrote yourself? Not only can I follow it, but I really like it. Makes the point about certainty simple and clear. And yet FUNdy with all his/her degrees and knowledge missed it.
Hi just saw this.
Yes I wrote that.

It only took me a few decades of mental anguish, dogged obsession, and toil to come up with it.
And it's actually aimed at managers not fundies.
A lot of managers say "if you are not sure then ask".
Meanwhile it's the people who are sure that screw things up, not the onest that are not sure.
And it's the people that are sure that become managers.
Hmmmm  I think I might see a potential problem here.
Good points. I completely agree. The only people who rightfully feel certain are the ones who put in the work and due diligence.

Certainty should be based on facts not feelings.

I take it you are a manager of some sort?


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Everyone is wrong about something.
Imagine two people who are wrong about something.
One person is certain the other is not.
Which one do you think will go from being wrong to being right.

OTOH imagine two people are right about something.
Is the one that is not certain likely to go from being right to being wrong?
Probably not.

Meant to ask if this is something you wrote yourself? Not only can I follow it, but I really like it. Makes the point about certainty simple and clear. And yet FUNdy with all his/her degrees and knowledge missed it.
Hi just saw this.
Yes I wrote that.

It only took me a few decades of mental anguish, dogged obsession, and toil to come up with it.
And it's actually aimed at managers not fundies.
A lot of managers say "if you are not sure then ask".
Meanwhile it's the people who are sure that screw things up, not the onest that are not sure.
And it's the people that are sure that become managers.
Hmmmm  I think I might see a potential problem here.
Good points. I completely agree. The only people who rightfully feel certain are the ones who put in the work and due diligence.

Certainty should be based on facts not feelings.

I take it you are a manager of some sort?


Bite your tongue.
Managers can be worse than vampires trying to convert into their evil profession.


It's not capitalism that is doomed to failure, it's managerialism.
It will kill socialism and any other form of economic setup.

I undo as much of manager's work as I can in an electronic manufacturing facility.
Although I am slipping, I let a manager permanently attach RH Temperature loggers to the wall, without pointing out that they will have to be taken down to send them out for calibration.
For the last year and a half I've mostly worked on getting the ERP system going as well as possible.
I've programmed machines, done maintenance, written procedures, done training,  all kinds of things.
Dabbled in purchasing, writing bafflegab, and even made a Gantt chart.

I have a couple weeks off coming up and will have to ponder life.