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If he gets a minimal sentence...
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/jury-acquits-tulsa-cop-shooting-061508641.html
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Tulsa leaders urge peace after cop acquitted in man's death
yeah right. I urged for peace from the cop before he shot the unarmed black dude. Burn the fucking city down.
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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/05/black_man_cycling_home_from_ne.html
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A 23-year-old African American man who says he was doing nothing more than bicycling home from his job at New Seasons Market when he was stopped, knocked to the ground, handcuffed and arrested by a Portland police officer has filed a $475,000 lawsuit against the city.

Police had been scouring the neighborhood for a black man suspected in a shooting when they came upon Anthony James Allen Jr., said his attorney, Ashlee Albies.

Police refused to answer Allen's questions about why they were stopping him, she said Thursday.

"You need reasonable suspicion," Albies said. "It can't just be because 'I feel like it.' It can't just be because 'You're black and I want you to do what I want you to do.' ... If that was me on my bike ... there's no way they would have done that. I'm a white woman."

Allen ended up with bloody shins and a sore neck and shoulders, she said.

Police spokesman Sgt. Pete Simpson didn't respond to a request for comment. The city attorney's office declined comment, saying it doesn't talk about pending litigation.

According to the lawsuit filed Wednesday in Multnomah County Circuit Court, Allen was pedaling home with a couple of bags of groceries about 11:30 p.m. on May 18, 2015, when he saw the flashing lights of police cars and a police-line perimeter around his Northeast Portland neighborhood. He stopped and spoke to officers, who told him there had been a shooting, the area wasn't safe and that he should head straight home, according to the suit.

Allen was trying to do just that when, a few doors away from his home at Northeast 25th Avenue and Sumner Street, police officer Colby Marrs "appeared suddenly out of the shadows" and yelled at him to stop, the suit says.

Allen explained that he was headed home from work and pointed to his home a few doors down, the suit states. That's when Marrs responded, "Not if I have questions for you," and Allen explained that he'd just spoken to two officers who told him to go home, according to the suit.

Marrs told Allen that if "an officer tells you to stop, you (expletive) stop," the suit says.

"Allen, put off by this disrespectful behavior he did not deserve, said that he did not have anything to say to Marrs, and continued on his way home," the suit says.

Marrs then grabbed Allen's shoulder, put his hand on his gun and called for backup, the suit says. Marrs also ordered Allen -- who was in the street -- to the curb, the suit states.

Allen told the officer that he would comply and started moving to the curb when Marrs took Allen to the ground and pressed his knee into Allen's neck and shoulders as he handcuffed him, the suit states. The neighborhood perimeter had been lifted by then, the suit says.

Police later dumped out the contents of his backpack, including the Bible he carried with him, according to the suit.

Allen was released from custody about four hours later.

The Multnomah County District Attorney's Office pursued a misdemeanor charge of interfering with a police officer on the theory that Allen had refused to obey a lawful order. In August 2015, a six-person jury acquitted him.

Oregon court records show that Allen doesn't have a criminal history, his attorney said it shouldn't matter if he did. Albies said the city should better train its officers to avoid racial profiling. She also said officers need to learn how to better de-escalate situations and work toward rebuilding their relationship with minority communities.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/jury-acquits-tulsa-cop-shooting-061508641.html
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Tulsa leaders urge peace after cop acquitted in man's death
yeah right. I urged for peace from the cop before he shot the unarmed black dude. Burn the fucking city down.

This is about officer Betty Shelby, who pulled her gun on an empty handed man, then shot and killed him.

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She fired her weapon, she told a Tulsa County courthouse on Monday, because "I feared for my life."

"I did everything I could to stop this," she added. "Crutcher's death is his fault."
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Testy if you have time watch the 60 minutes interview of Betsy Shelby.  She basically found everything Terence did suspicious and vaguely threatening. 
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Re: We could use a Police Abuse sticky - Part 3 - Zombie Edition
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Yeah I am familiar with the case. She needs to be not a cop.
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Re: We could use a Police Abuse sticky - Part 3 - Zombie Edition
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Yeah I am familiar with the case. She needs to be not a cop put down.
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I was being charitable. It's hard to blame cops for being threats to society because we gave them guns and told them to use those guns. However, when they use their guns to hurt society, we definitely need to make them not cops. If we also want to criminally prosecute or just put out their eyes, I'm fine with that too.
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Re: We could use a Police Abuse sticky - Part 3 - Zombie Edition
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Cops shouldn't be cowards. Cowardice or racial prejudice should immediately disqualify someone from being a cop. Even a hint.

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https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertsamaha/policing-and-race-in-troy-new-york
What's amazing is the insurance companies continue to pay out on these cases.
There's where the real problem lies.

It won't really change until the insurance companies refuse to insure these Cities and Counties and States. It won't change until it starts hurting them in the pocket book. Until some minority victim ends up owning the City or County, literally.

Ironically, the whole police issue doesn't just affect minorities by race, it also affects the poor, of any color. If you don't have the means to defend yourself legally, you're also a target. And those that don't toe the line. Though certainly not as much as those non-whites, who get targeted more often and more viciously than any others. We, as a nation, as a culture, have abdicated our sense of justice to what often amounts to a gang of bullies, often racist bullies, who then prey upon the weakest. The non-white, non-male, non-adult, non-citizen, non-rich (even when the bully is non-white, non-male, non-adult, non-citizen, non-rich) simply because they can and they signed up for the duty and we hired them. Rather than hire the best, the most humane and most qualified emotionally and intellectually to protect and serve us all, we hire the least qualified in all categories other than the ability to do violence, to do so. And then we give them deadly weapons and the apparent authority to use them against us. And then back them up when they fuck up. Gee, I wonder why we get the results we do.

And this ironicity only comes to the fore when there is an outrageous example. When some white male rich fucker gets pulled over, which, surprisingly, rarely happens, despite centuries of history documenting the fact the white male adult rich citizens (often highly placed) commit crimes at least as often and usually of a far greater harm to society as the rest of us, they are apologized to and let to go on their way. Either immediately or eventually.

And I realize most law enforcement personnel are not like that, or at least not that bad, at least I hope so, what I don't get is why what I hope are the good guys line up and protect the bad ones. It just makes them all look bad. Don't they realize that if you support evil you become evil? Or maybe these "tough" guys are also intimidated by the bullies. Another characteristic to avoid.  

Unfortunately, we seem to be heading towards an ever greater police presence and authority. Often at the behest of those we need to be most protected from. Despite which many of us regularly vote for the very things or people we claim to abhor.
Are we there yet?