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This is america. Parents have to teach their kids that before we let the kids ride the bus alone.
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Cops also have to raise a puppy throughout their time in the academy and to graduate, they have to shoot the dog.

ETA: k. That's not true. They just have to shoot a black kid or a random person at the wrong house.
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https://www.snopes.com/tag/conservative-treehouse/
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Articles tagged: conservative treehouse 3 Total
Fact Check Politics
Did Puerto Rico's Teamsters Union Go on Strike During Hurricane Maria Relief Efforts?

2 October 2017 Reports that truck drivers are on strike in Puerto Rico are false -- Teamsters have asked mainland truckers to distribute supplies in the U.S. territory.
Fact Check Crime
Philando Castile Was Not 'Wanted for Armed Robbery'

9 July 2016 An article published shortly after Philando Castile was killed by police officers in Minnesota falsely reported that he was a suspect in an armed robbery case.
Fact Check Fauxtography
The Wig Sleazy

15 November 2015 A photograph depicting the arrival of 10,000 Syrian refugees in New Orleans was taken in Hungary in September 2015 and was used to leverage fear following the November 2015 ISIS Paris attacks.

https://www.jenkuznicki.com/exactly-motivates-conservative-treehouse-website
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Before the Trump campaign, the group of online bullies who ran the online social media game for Trump went mostly unnoticed except for being notoriously irresponsible. Trump supporters slavishly shared articles that propagandized for Trump from prntly.com, theconservativetreehouse.com and others all during the campaign, that severely trashed most of the Republican campaigners, but none more than Ted Cruz.

So often and so blatant were the posts about conspiratorial, badly researched and poorly rationalized arguments about Cruz and anyone who supported him, that most conservatives didn't give them the time of day, and scoffed at the ridiculous non-stories and bad judgement.

But when Treehouse's main author "Sundance" began trashing Mark Levin, he took notice.

"Sundance" has been identified as Mark Bradman of Florida, and the twitter handle for Treehouse is @theLastRefuge2. Levin noticed certain tweets from the website's twitter account that smacked of antisemitism.

    .@marklevinshow is an "America Second Constitutionalist" - Support comes AFTER his advocacy 4 Nation State of Israel https://t.co/CpF7Hlt4tN

    -- TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) December 15, 2015

    @realDonaldTrump puts America First. That immediately makes him "less than" for @marklevinshow who supports Israel First and hence, Cruz.

    -- TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) December 15, 2015

Nobody believes in America more than Mark Levin. That said, these tweets are either/or arguments. He claims Mark Levin only supported Cruz because of Israel, and that Levin supports Israel over America. Those tweets are definitely antisemitic, and just reading the comments on Treehouse's site, they tend to gather quite a few anti-semites as commenters. I believe the tweets attack Mark Levin because he is Jewish, and insinuate that Mark doesn't believe in America. That's a hefty charge against America's leading author on the philosophy of America and its founding. It's also the same type of thinking we see at Stormfront, insinuating that Jews are less-thans in the eyes of white supremacists.

So Levin called the website out for antisemitism, and revealed "Sundance's" past. This was a year ago.

Now, let's take a look at what people said about Treehouse/Sundance/Refuge/Bradman before Trump came along.

Of the work "Sundance" did on the Trayvon Martin case, Lee Stranahan roundly savaged him. "Sundance" had not been revealed yet as Bradman, and Stranahan called him out for "cowardice, ..irresponsible and probably illegal definitely immoral,..a fevered ego masquerading as new media,..." including the fact that as a personal friend of Andrew Breitbart, Stranahan was sure Andrew would have hated "Sundance" and ordered the fraud to take down the image of Andrew from his Last Refuge/Treehouse website.

What did "Sundance" do? He wrote a long blog post basically faulting a PR guy for attacks of black people on white people. That PR guy spoke with Stranahan in the above linked BlogTalkRadio piece to clear his name after Bradman posted his personal contact information including his ip address in his long, conspiratorial post.

Charles C. Johnson, remember him? He savaged Bradman, and revealed much about him, after Bradman got so much wrong on the Jessica Chambers case.

    "It's just that I don't think Sundance a.k.a. Mark Bradman is a very good investigator and that he oftentimes prejudices the evidence. When other people try to expose the truth he jumps all over them without bothering to check his biases. By getting the facts wrong Bradman leads the honest and good people in the wrong directions.

    This isn't to say that Bradman always gets it wrong but that he's often irresponsible in both how he goes about getting the facts and also when he gets things wrong."

Bradman also wrongfully outed the woman who was speaking with Trayvon on the phone right before he died, and complained that she took down her social sites in order to "scrub" her identity. What's probably more true is that she was being harassed online because of Bradman's ineptitude.

So that's about all I want to speak of the history of Bradman/Refuge/Treehouse/Sundance, because it's really not worth anyone's time. What is worth your time is to see where Bradman stands when things get a little harder than cheer-leading for a candidate. He's failed at investigative journalism, he's failed at being an honest arbiter of the truth, let's see how he fares on Americanism versus Socialism.

Headline: Senator Rand Paul Says He Has The Healthcare Solution...

    "Senator Rand Paul, Mike Lee and Ted Cruz pushed the House Freedom Caucus to remain firm in opposition to President Trump.

    Having successfully defeated his opposition, Senator Paul pulls out the UniParty dance music and proposes solutions that can go no-where. As you watch this, remember the House and Senate schedule spring break is next week.... Ergo Paul says "legislation should be brought up next week" blah-blah-blah.

    This is a familiar UniParty 'controlled opposition' trick. Go public and make the solution something you know has absolutely no chance of even being explored. Makes the abuser look great, and keeps the abused thinking their abuser is dreamy."

Sundance here believes that we have no way to gain a free market solution, so trashes freedom-loving Americans. C'mon, who the hell wants to grab a flag and run behind Sundance in his battle cry? To claim the small band of conservatives are part of the so-called "uniparty" is absurd, and makes one wonder how screwy this guy is. You'll notice that Sundance doesn't want liberty, and won't ever fight for it, he just fights for moderate Republican endeavors. He's all for RINOCare, that is, Repeal-in-name-only..

Headline: President Trump Meets With Intransigent House Freedom Caucus - The Congressional #NeverTrump Team...

    Earlier today President Trump met with the House Freedom Caucus. The HFC is a group of professional electoral abusers who create battered conservative syndrome. The HFC has never passed legislation, nor have they ever taken a leadership role in politics when given every opportunity to actually lead.

    Personally, I have ZERO respect for the caucus itself or any joined member who would put group intransigence above common sense.

And what is the so-called "intransigence" Bradman speaks of? The Freedom Caucus refuses to change its mind on freedom, that is Americanism, that is, liberty. He's actually calling them out because they have principles.

Headline: To Remove ObamaCare We Must First Remove The UniParty "Big Club"...

    "Look at the upper right side of this page and you will note the self-described affiliation of our group "The Last Refuge". That name specifically chosen because we broke away from political identity framed around arguments of personality; frustrated because no one was focused on the real hands behind the networks. We have been fighting "The Big Club" for years.

    President Trump is the first political entity in our lifetime that not only comprehends the faces of the false arguments (the personalities of false choice), but more importantly sees the architects behind the Potemkin villages represented by those faces. When it comes to domestic economic policies, the architects are the BIG CLUB."

You have to read it a couple times so you can laugh harder. First he says something like, "We here at Last Refuge abhor the politics of personality, that's why we put Donald Trump on a pedestal because he's so much smart." According to Bradman, Trump had no fingerprints on this failed bill at all, it's all the uniparty, but really, the uniparty is the Democrats and Republicans who are opposed to freedom and liberty. Bradman doesn't apparently understand this, but we can't let the truth get in the way of some massive conspiracy clickbait!
~continued at link
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But Castile was black.
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heh
https://www.mediaite.com/donald-trump/pence-reportedly-gets-visibly-red-faced-at-church-service-when-pastor-denounces-trump/
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Pence Reportedly Gets 'Visibly Red-Faced' at Church Service When Pastor Denounces Trump
by Lawrence Bonk | 6:51 pm, January 15th, 2018
 
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    Pastor Watson's Statement on the President's Remarks on Haiti and Africa

    I stand today as your Pastor to vehemently denounce and reject such characterizations of the nations of Africa and our brothers and sisters in Haiti.

    Posted by Metropolitan Baptist Church on Sunday, January 14, 2018

Vice President Mike Pence attended a Maryland church service on Sunday morning where the pastor chastised President Donald Trump as part of his sermon.

Trump, as you very well know, has come under fire for an Oval Office meeting in which he is alleged to have referred to El Salvador, Haiti and African nations as "shithole countries."

Pence was reportedly turning "visibly red-faced" during the sermon, according to onlookers who spoke to WUSA9.

Pastor Dr. Maurice Watson did not mince words as he discussed the president's alleged remarks.

"I stand today as your pastor to vehemently denounce and reject any such characterizations of the nations of Africa and of our brothers and sisters in Haiti," he said, going on to call the comments "hurtful" and "dehumanizing."

The pastor added, "There are members of this church who are from Africa, who are from Haiti. They call me pastor."

Dr. Watson also called out the idea that America should welcome immigrants from Norway rather than from African nations.

"A statement was made that we ought to welcome people from Norway more than we welcome people from Haiti," he said.

"Whoever made such a statement, and whoever used such a visceral, disrespectful, dehumanizing adjective to characterize the nations of Africa, whoever -- do you hear me, Church? --whoever said it is wrong, and they ought to be held accountable."

The Metropolitan Baptist Church was founded in 1864, just one year after President Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation.

Watch the sermon above, via Facebook.
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See a Nazi. Punch a Nazi. It's really pretty simple.
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Lot of talk about the law in a context where it is irrelevant. Just sayin.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaplinsky_v._New_Hampshire

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the Court articulated the fighting words doctrine, a limitation of the First Amendment's guarantee of freedom of speech.

https://www.popehat.com/2015/05/19/how-to-spot-and-critique-censorship-tropes-in-the-medias-coverage-of-free-speech-controversies/

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In 1942 the Supreme Court held that the government could prohibit "fighting words" -- "those which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace." The Supreme Court has been retreating from that pronouncement ever since. If the "fighting words" doctrine survives -- that's in serious doubt -- it's limited to face-to-face insults likely to provoke a reasonable person to violent retaliation. The Supreme Court has rejected every opportunity to use the doctrine to support restrictions on speech. The "which by their very utterance inflict injury" language the Supreme Court dropped in passing finds no support whatsoever in modern law -- the only remaining focus is on whether the speech will provoke immediate face-to-face violence.

In other words: "Fight me" - fighting words. "I think all non-Aryans should be eliminated" - horrible, but not fighting words.

I would think any non-Aryan, hearing someone say they should be eliminated, might be forgiven for considering that to be, in the legal sense, 'fighting words'.
I hear that as "I need to be put to sleep"
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I know your Constitution enshrines the right to freedom of speech. But it doesn't enshrine any right to consequence-free freedom of speech. And one of the consequences of shouting "Jews will not replace us" and "Blood and Soil" in a public place, is having your fucking Nazi shins kicked in.
Err.

The First Amendment (and interpretations of it) does guarantee that you do not lose any of your rights for your speech. And that includes all rights to be safe from others (as defined legally). In other words, the Nazis have the right (as citizens) not to be assaulted, and do not lose that right by voicing Nazi opinions.

They don't have the right not to be remarked on, mocked, called out, identified, thrown out of businesses, fired (with exceptions determined by state law), or the like. That's not because they are Nazis. That's because no one has those rights.

"Having your fucking Nazi shins kicked in" is not the example you should look to.
Having your Nazi self turned from living to dead is fine though
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And shout "jews will not replace us".
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I've got news for you people... Real news, as opposed to fake news. Having them graze tall grass with seed heads and giving them browse (tree hay) as a supplement is a hell of a lot closer to Nature than having them graze the typical short, overgrazed pastures in my area and supplementing with massive amounts of grass hay and grain. Do you guys really believe that the typical goat owner in America truly allows goats to browse as they would in nature? If you do, I have a bridge I would like to sell you.

Nobody cares what your neighbours feed their goats. We're talking about what YOU feed YOUR goats. No one's even terribly concerned about them eating grass. The point is you keep bleating about working with nature while forcing your goats to eat a diet not natural for them at all, and not allowing them to freely seek out any browse they could get on their own.

YOU are not 'working with nature' so quit saying you are. It's a great big fib.

And btw, the typical goat owner here does let their goats browse, because we have lots of browse.
Yeah. I've seen a lot of pastures goats in my life and they have pretty much always had access to browse of some sort. I wonder if browse is rare in Missouri?
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How do you even know it's a he? Iirc, Dave just called it a black reporter.
Ohshit I'm a mysoginist now aint I

 :colbert: Neither of you watched the video.

Oh yeah - it features Ted Nugent as well as a few other Fox news 'specialists', which was an actual show for a while.
Mea culpa. I don't read Dave's links because they are to propaganda sites and feature actual Nazi fucks.
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How do you even know it's a he? Iirc, Dave just called it a black reporter.
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...  whether that black reporter for Fox News was correct or not.
I see the blackness of that reporter has assumed the same iconic significance as the womanhood of the South African visitor to the Maasai.    ::)
It's truly bewildering.

It took some digging, but I think I've identified "the black guy". It is, afaict, David Webb, conservative, Tea Party co-founder (in one city), Brietbart contributor, radio show host, Fox news contributor.
...  whether that black reporter for Fox News was correct or not.
I see the blackness of that reporter has assumed the same iconic significance as the womanhood of the South African visitor to the Maasai.    ::)
It's truly bewildering.

It took some digging, but I think I've identified "the black guy". It is, afaict, David Webb, conservative, Tea Party co-founder (in one city), Brietbart contributor, radio show host, Fox news contributor.
So not actually a reporter, and not someone who was at Charlottesville during the events in question.
So why is his contribution worth... anything at all     :dunno:
Duh. Because he says what Dave has been told to believe.
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Dick Durbin had a rough night thanks to our boy Posobiec, whom Donald Trump RT'ed ... again ... lie about him and call him a Nazi if you like ... but he's a sharp cookie ...



Digging up that kind of factual history is good journalism folks ...



Lol go watch the rest of the video Posobiec snipped a few seconds from - you can quote-mine videos too, Dave,

And wow, here we have Trump retweeting the guy (Posobiec) who placed a poster saying Rape Melania. You'd think Trump would care enough about his wife to never have anything to do with the lying liar that did that.
I don't know if anything you are saying here is true.  And I base that on what happened the last time you weighed in on Posobiec.  It appears to me that YOU are the one who needs to work on being factual ... not Posobiec.
Why wouldn't you base it on, you know, the actual facts?
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I'm happy to investigate Jack's statement when I get back on my home computer. Also I would like to look at that long research paper that Pingu was encouraging me to read. I would like to determine whether that black reporter for Fox News was correct or not.
So, without knowing the facts, you are still a Nazi fucking cheerleader. Jesus christ you are a shitty person.
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If you were a dinosaur
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Not funny ha ha though
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There is nothing new under the sun
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It kinda blows my mind that fascism is on the rise here.
me too. I wish you would stop being one.
The only good fascist is a dead fascist, right Dave?
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Hofstadter seems to have utterly missed the grange movement.

Maybe. As the article points out, his views have been pushed aside by a widespread embrace of the Populist Movement by contemporary historians. Either way, I don't think trying to build toothbrush factories here, in competition with Vietnam, is a viable way of addressing wealth inequality and a dying middle class in America. If anything, that effort will hasten the growing problem, that owes to the failed "trickle-down" project, in all its incarnations, and a failure to be a step ahead of things, and properly unionize the service industry.
The farm situation in the 80s had everything to do with domestic policy and next to nothing to do with globalization. See: europe.

Maybe? I don't really see how that relates to what I'm saying.
I thought he was talking about the farm collapse in the 80s.
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It kinda blows my mind that fascism is on the rise here.