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Messages - Dave Hawkins

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Execution by hanging is pretty gruesome too.
But I guess gruesome is OK if it's politicians Hawkins doesn't like.
Again it's ok to execute criminals if convicted.

What crimes are babies convicted of?
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"Medical texts explaining procedures ..."

1) Insert forceps into vagina
2) Grasp head of baby fetus with forceps
3) Grip scalpel loosely with free hand
4) ....
5) ....
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Yeah. But what crime did the babies commit? Remind me.
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Well I suppose that a thread talking about heads rolling could logically include a discussion about abortion. 

I almost posted a picture but they're just too gruesome. I can't.
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  Sandwich Makers Hold Surprise Meeting in North Korea...

South Korean Prime Minister Moon Jae-in is the Asian version of Barack Obama, and much like North Korean Chairman Kim Jong-un essentially irrelevant in this geopolitical confrontation.  Take a seat, or make a sandwich.... it matters not.

Behind the fanciful Korean 'denuclearization talks' and lofty 'peace initiatives' a far more consequential geopolitical economic battle is taking place between the worlds largest two economies.  U.S. President Donald Trump and Chinese Chairman Xi Jinping are engaged.

  

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/05/26/sandwich-makers-hold-surprise-meeting-in-north-korea/
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Well Dave.
If I decide to cheat on my wife (and embarrass my kid) by bonking hookers,  will it make a huge difference whether I do it in my office or in a motel?
No. But you're not the president of the United States with the eyes of the entire world on you. 
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No it does not.
feel free to explain.
i don't need to explain anything.
You are the one making libelous assertions here.
It's up to you to justify them.
Or badger, as per usual.
if you are an abortion supporter then you are most likely okay with late-term abortions which means that you are good with killing babies.
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So it's hard enough to imagine me who's an ordinary sales guy getting it on with the secretary in one of the side offices. We should at least go get a room somewhere.

Now imagine that it's my boss getting it on with the secretary who works for him. And he's married. And his wife doesn't know. So he's cheating.

Now imagine that it's not just a secretary, but it's a young secretary fresh out of college. She doesn't even have a real job yet. She's just an intern.

Now imagine that it's not just the boss of a branch office of an average company doing business in America. But it's the boss of the highest office of the most powerful Nation on the planet.

Wow.

My head's going to explode.
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" (what the hell difference does the location make?) "

Lol

Don't you think my boss would have something to say about it if me and the secretary were getting it on in one of the side offices, let alone the head office if I was the boss of the whole place? My boss has this funny rule that office work places are for work. You would think that the president of the United States might have the same standard.
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Cheating on your wife with a young impressionable employee by having her suck your dick right smack-dab in the middle of the Oval Office while supposedly serving as the Leader of the Free World is 1000 times better than following the traditional practice of your people by marrying a 15 year old bride who was reportedly quite happy about it and quite possibly is still happy about it to this day  considering the rights and privileges bestowed upon her as a result of the marriage.

Sex, Dave, A BJ is just sex. And no, having consensual sex in the Oval office (what the hell difference does the location make?)  while being president and also married is not even on the same level of harmful as child marriage.

Gandhi, one of your heros, was an utter asshole with women and performed weird in-bed naked stuff with his very young female relatives, while a leader of his country. But it's okay for him to be that way.

Just admit you don't really give a shit about Clinton and Lewinsky; you just thought in some corner of your befuddled brain that it might be a moral 'gotcha'. But it isn't because your morality is seriously out of whack. I guess because, like many of your fundy brothers, you don't consider women to be as valuable as men, and think women are only here to serve men.



You're right about one thing. I don't give a shit about Clinton and Lewinsky. What I do give a shit about is the hypocritical attitudes of people here.
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And yet the words of actual Maasai women who are trying to end the practice of child marriage and FGM suggest that there absolutely is mistreatment.
And I believe them. But I also believe the woman who was reporting on the one particular wedding that I woohooed.
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If you are anything like the Voxrat, we already know that you are good with killing babies
::) 

Oh? And what will you cite to support your libelous contention that VoxRat is "good with killing babies" ?

I guess that's the beauty of Trump's America.  Shits like you no longer feel the slightest compunction about stating obvious falsehoods as if they're established facts.
you are pro-choice aren't you? If so then that means you're good with killing babies.
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If your parents have any assets, it's not too late to sue them for fucking you up this bad.
Hell if you're good with the president having his dick sucked by a White House intern right there in the Oval Office, then maybe you would be good with sacrificing virgins in the Capitol Rotunda? If you are anything like the Voxrat, we already know that you are good with killing babies so where does it end?
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Clinton's not good he's just 1000 times better than the Maasai old guy."
Fortunately you accidentally failed to include the first " ,  so your dishonest "quote" ends up - accidentally - being less dishonest than you intended.

Look shitforbrains. No one is blaming this particular old guy for the culture that he was born into, and doesn't question. What people are objecting to is that culture. Or - more exactly - the child bride / sex slavery aspect of it. And your woo-hooing of it.
You really are an idiot aren't you? How is it possible after all this time for you to not realize that I was not woo-hooing anything about the culture?  It wa quite a simple thought actually. Nothing more than ... "Probably a hottie ... and they're both happy... woohoo!"  Obviously if there were there any aspects of the situation that resembled slavery or mistreatment, I would not be in favor of that. But I have no indication that there was any of that.
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Cheating on your wife with a young impressionable employee by having her suck your dick right smack-dab in the middle of the Oval Office while supposedly serving as the Leader of the Free World is 1000 times better than following the traditional practice of your people by marrying a 15 year old bride who was reportedly quite happy about it and quite possibly is still happy about it to this day  considering the rights and privileges bestowed upon her as a result of the marriage.
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Clinton's not good he's just 1000 times better than the Maasai old guy."
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"No one is defending Clinton. It's just orders of magnitude less bad than child marriage."

Caption this.
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In fact, it often takes such a long time that people collectively forget the bad agricultural practices that caused it, such as in the case of North Africa, so they make up sciency sounding fairy tales to explain what happened.
Oh brother ::)

Are you back to your Humans Created the Sahara idiocy?
I'm not "back" to it. I never left it because it's not idiocy. It's the truth.

Here's what the FAO has to say about it

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  The Sahara

There is historical evidence that at least once or probably twice a great part of the Sahara was populated under the Mandigan and Saharan Empire from about the year A.D. 320 to 680, and it is therefore clear that radical changes for the worse have taken place in the natural flora over great parts of the present Sahara within historic times. Records maintained over 500 years indicate that the Sahara desert has moved southward at the rate of one meter a year on a wide front of 3,000 kilometers. Lake Chad, which some decades ago was an ideal refuge for migrating birds from Europe, is steadily diminishing in surface area and depth, and the color of its shores is turning from green to brown.

There are records of explorers of the last century as well as from those of Roman days (Herodotus, Pliny) which provide proof of man's previous occupancy of very considerable parts of what is now absolute desert. But while some authorities say that the writings of ancient historians reflect nothing except the conditions existing in their own times, more recent explorations, as for instance that of Duveyrier (1864) in the western Sahara, record information on vegetation and on forests which have now practically disappeared. These records make clear that explanation of this disappearance does not lie in a radical change of climate (desiccation), but indicate that man alone is responsible.

In 1497, El Hadj Mohammoud, the Emperor of the Songhai dynasty, made a pilgrimage to Mecca from Gao in what is now Mali with a suite of 800 people and numerous horses and donkeys, crossing a region which at that time was occupied by people living in permanent villages, the remains of which are still discernible today. NOW the whole area is desert. Slowly but surely, the desert is on the march.

    

http://www.fao.org/docrep/e3200e/e3200e03.htm
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That's just bizarre.
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And for the nth time:

MASAAI WOMEN LEADERS AND POLITICIANS WHO HAVE FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE OF CHILD MARRIAGE DENOUNCE IT, CALL IT HARMFUL, AND WORK TO STOP IT.

Think they might understand the harm better than you, and better than a random south African writer hanging out for a few weeks?
I think she was there for more like a year. And I wonder why all these women didn't confide in her what a bad thing it was for the old guy to marry the fifteen-year-old?  I don't doubt your larger point. It probably is true that there is a general trend towards changing the child bride traditions.

What gets me about this conversation is how the hell anybody has the nerve to call me a hypocrite while at the same time defending Bill Clinton for his actions.
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Why do you say 14 to 15 now? Need to try to make her younger to bolster your flimsy case? You are the one that needs to study up on women which is surprising because you are one. There's this thing called puberty. You might want to learn about it. What is special about 20 or 21 or 22 except for the artificial divisions Western Society as created? Has nothing to do with Biology. I would argue that Bill Clinton caused far more emotional damage to Monica Lewinsky by his actions than the Masai tribesmen did by his.  In fact, I would argue that the young woman was better off emotionally because of the marriage. Just the opposite of what happened to Monica Lewinsky. So you guys are completely bass-ackwards when you say that I am being hypocritical about this.
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The problem, Bors, is that the land destruction sometimes takes millenia and so people like you don't notice it happening.  In fact, it often takes such a long time that people collectively forget the bad agricultural practices that caused it, such as in the case of North Africa, so they make up sciency sounding fairy tales to explain what happened.