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In theory, yes.  But why?  Do you want to raise slugs to eat?

You are an idiot.
The only reason we don't raise slugs to eat is because it's way easier to just collect them. Here in Greece, at least.

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Although I seem to recall that slug farms are a thing somewhere...
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By the way ... we had an ice storm this week which covered all my grass with ice ... did my animals go hungry?  Why no! They didn't.  You could tell that they didn't like it much ... but - like school boys dutifully eating their spinach because their mother makes them - they ate it.

Right.

And what would they have done "in the wild", Dave? 


In the wild, they would have done exactly what my animals did.  Eat it because it's the only thing available. 

But it wouldn't be "the only thing available" in the wild, would it?  They'd be free to find forage in a more sheltered spot, for instance.

I'm mimicking Nature, remember?
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Or even on a half-way decent farm?
By this, I assume you mean a farm like one of my neighbors who I drive by every day who have too many animals crowded onto a totally overgrazed paddock covered in poop and the animals are crowded around a hay rack eating nasty dry hay.

In my opinion, that's not "halfway decent" at all.

No, I didn't mean that, and it's not what I said. Obviously I don't mean your neighbours because I have no idea what your neighbours do.  I mean any humane farmer who provides a shelter for her animals, and non-frozen forage when the ground is frozen.  You don't need to overgraze your pasture in order to provide hay or turnips.  And your adjective "nasty" could just as well apply to your icy grass that you fully admit they didn't like much.

Well, last week my neighbour's sheep clearly preferred the pile of "nasty dry" hay and turnips their farmer had thoughtfully provided to the frozen and waterlogged but NOT overgrazed pasture that was the alternative.


Animals in the wild in my area would not have had much choice this week but to eat icy forage.  The area blanketed by ice was quite extensive ... hundreds of miles.

Farmers in my area do not provide shelter for their animals - cows and horses and sheep at least which is what I see driving around close to my place.  I also don't know of any that provide turnips.  The ones around here provide hay ... and I've had experience with the hay around here.  It varies greatly in quality ... the average is not very nice and my animals have always preferred grass in the ground even if it's largely brown.  Now it's true they might prefer average dry hay over my icy grass ... but keep in mind that icy grass is very rare so my animals are usually getting very yummy food while my neighbors animals are getting very average food all winter long.
So the ONE thing you mimic your ignorant non-HMG neighbors on, is not providing shelter for your animals?
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600 years ago in North America was anyone doing forage analysis for the buffalo?  Planting specific varieties for them to eat? 

Answer is "No"

Did the buffalo suffer for it?

I doubt it.
There was also no one there to put it inside a cage.

No, not even a metaphorical one. As actual OBSERVATION shows.
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We HMG ranchers do practice the scientific method ... but we are more efficient at it than you octohatter types ... so you guys are way behind slogging in the mud trying to catch up with us and due to your brainwashing, you think you are out in front of us.  Lol
No wonder dave loves analogies. It allows for others indulging in his empowering and dominating fantasies.

So far, we've been bound in the basement, frantically running like cockroaches being sprayed, and slogging in the mud behind. What next I wonder.
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You are not interested in the truth about animal husbandry. You have your preferred narrative and no array of facts will change that.
I'm curious, dave: At what point in our lives, do you think that we were all "brainwashed" by "conventional animal husbandry people"? When and where did the Animal Husbandry Commissar get to us? At home? In school? When?
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I'm familiar with that issue and I started out trimming my goats hooves when I first got them, then it dawned on me that no one trims hooves in the wild and I think the main reason it's not a problem in the wild is because the animals are on the move constantly ... they are never walking in shit.  My animals also are never walking in their own shit and almost never in mud either  because my grass is so tall and thick.  I've check my goats hooves over the past two years and they trim naturally and are never gross.  Neat, huh?
Dave your animals are kept in a cage
Yes, a moving cage.  That's why they don't step in their own shit.
Because, as we all know, if you don't force goats to occasionally move by putting them in a moving cage, they will stand still on their own shit for hours.
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Hogwash. We have plenty of information with which we could make informed decisions.

I really do want to create a simulation sometime. That would be freaking awesome.
I hear Stardew Valley is good.
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Best part is the "45" on the cuffs
Hahahaha I didn't notice that!
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I almost feel bad for him but then I remember how much this fucking coward deserves it:


"Will you continue to accept donations from the NRA"?

"Uuuhhhhhhhh people like me what can I say" *tilt*
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
Lol

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Come on. If you're going to insult me, at least make it entertaining.
Does the objective observation of the chip on your shoulder offend you?
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Each time I look into any aspect of this I come back to the parsimonious hypothesis that the first humans evolved from Neanderthals in the Middle East as shown by the Skhul and Qafzeh fossils. From that initial origin, migrations took place into Africa and into the other areas of the world. Can anyone offer up any reasons why such a parsimonious, straightforward lineage is not plausible?
If anyone is serious, please post your objections here in the Science section.
I would, but this is not the Science section. Oh well. So be it.
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We don't want the retarded shit to get disorganized.
Memescape plz
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Dave, are you still going on about your island experiment? Out of curiosity, could you even find water if dropped off in a random landscape?
Yes of course and I'm not just talking about any random landscape. I would propose a landscape like my location in Missouri because it's very easy to work with.

One with a town nearby?
Nope.  You get one shot at loading up with whatever supplies you want - garden seeds, livestock, tools, etc.
So, you'll be dead a few days after your water supplies run out?
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My great-great-great-grandfather was no stinkin' L1-groupper, Thordammit!
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Alternative Reality Science Extravaganza / Re: L3
Everything falls into place, as long as we accept that people with L0, L1 and L2 are not modern humans.
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What happened to those 'unhinged roof' plans anyway?
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Also, what Ben said.
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The latest from my buddy Sundance ...
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[snip gobbledygook]
Dave, can you give us a meaningful summary of what "your buddy Sundance" is even trying to argue for here? What, specifically, his reasoning is? Not "It's all a Nothingburger", "Muh Russia" and other content-free slogans: Explain the actual ARGUMENT that is supposedly being made there. Thx.
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You're wrong.  As usual.

So what does Judy think of your operation?  Surely you've run it past the master?
Of course.  He said "Sounds like you have figured out the goat operation quite well."

Why do YOU care?



Oh, is that what he said?  "Sounds like"?  Sounds decidedly vague to me.

Did you fully describe the caged goats, mechanically winched around a field?
I answered your question.  Now answer mine.  Why do you care?

This is why:

BTW, I take it we're no longer talking about poisonous plants, or about why there's no reason to know or do specific things in HMG.

Oh well.
That whole stupid conversation could have been reduced to... Hey Dave, be careful how close you take your pen next to your Woods because there can be poisonous plants in there.
There can be bad plants in the middle of the field too.
What you were unable to glean from the conversation was -
How do you know what you don't need to learn or know?
That was the question. Not examples of things you don't think you need to know.
The purpose of the question is to find out HOW YOU DECIDE what you don't need to know or learn.
Answer the actual question and the conversation won't be stupid.
I have already explained that but people here are too stupid or too blinded to even read my answer. I have sat through several classes on holistic managed grazing and went through an entire six-month internship with one of the world leaders in holistic managed grazing and never once did he even mention the topic of poisonous plants in pastures. This is extremely significant and as I said I already stated this but no one cares. They apparently think they are smarter than Greg Judy or else they think that Greg Judy probably did talk about poisonous plants but I wasn't paying attention or some stupid s*** like that. [snip pathetic insults]
Your justification for your actions (or inactions) regarding HMG essentially boils down to authoritarianism, with Greg Judy being the most prominent authority in that defense.

Therefore, his opinion of your efforts is highly relevant.

Your turn.
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You're wrong.  As usual.

So what does Judy think of your operation?  Surely you've run it past the master?
Of course.  He said "Sounds like you have figured out the goat operation quite well."

Why do YOU care?


Heh. 'Sounds like' Greg could care less.
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Lol

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The left-wing conspiracy theory that the Trump campaign "colluded" with Russian officials ahead of the 2016 presidential campaign continued to crash and burn Friday, with Robert Mueller's indictment showing the foreign nationals began meddling in US politics one year before Donald Trump announced his run for office.

https://www.hannity.com/media-room/collusion-collapse-mueller-says-russian-meddling-began-before-trumps-candidacy/amp/



Almost exactly a year after the above tweet: "Woman Who Helped Organize Miss Universe in 2013 Announced Trump's Presidential Run in January, 2015"

Go ahead and put your high-speed mind to work on the possible implications.
On a side note: I talk with many people from Russia and other former USSR countries at work. They often can't speak Greek and I don't speak Russian, so we discuss in English.

I've NEVER heard anyone do the pseudo-stereotypical "no articles" accent. It just doesn't occur.

Why the hell is that woman tweeting that way?

My Russian friends are fluent in English, but frequently leave out their definite articles. When they get excited, which is often, it's almost as if they're parodying themselves
I guess I'm the exception then. In my experience even the ones that don' t speak English that well never systematically leave out the articles-  I don't think I would miss it if they did. Perhaps it helps that they also have to learn some basic Greek, I dunno.
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Raffy enjoys talking to himself.
Why, you got the copyright or something?
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BTW, I take it we're no longer talking about poisonous plants, or about why there's no reason to know or do specific things in HMG.

Oh well.
That whole stupid conversation could have been reduced to... Hey Dave, be careful how close you take your pen next to your Woods because there can be poisonous plants in there.
There can be bad plants in the middle of the field too.
What you were unable to glean from the conversation was -
How do you know what you don't need to learn or know?
That was the question. Not examples of things you don't think you need to know.
The purpose of the question is to find out HOW YOU DECIDE what you don't need to know or learn.
Answer the actual question and the conversation won't be stupid.
I have already explained that but people here are too stupid or too blinded to even read my answer. I have sat through several classes on holistic managed grazing and went through an entire six-month internship with one of the world leaders in holistic managed grazing and never once did he even mention the topic of poisonous plants in pastures. This is extremely significant and as I said I already stated this but no one cares. They apparently think they are smarter than Greg Judy or else they think that Greg Judy probably did talk about poisonous plants but I wasn't paying attention or some stupid s*** like that. People here have really serious psychological issues.
"So, this is how you operate on a comminuted femur fracture".

"But why do we have to do it that way? Why is it that it doesn't matter-"

"Why? Because that's how I've been doing it for years, and that's how my esteemed senior doctors taught me to do it. Questions?"

"...No, sir"

"Good".

Enjoy your glorified carpentry, dave.