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Messages - BenTheBiased

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LOL at so many things in the last few posts.
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Biology looks like what happens when things make imperfect copies of themselves. Which it should because that's what it is.
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Gates pleads guilty...
https://www.vox.com/2018/2/23/17045226/robert-mueller-flip-rick-gates-russia
But I'm sure your buddy Sundance will tell you how that's great news for Trump and Hillary is going to jail any second now, eh Dave?
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Science / Re: NH winter cooling
Except it isn't according to Stein et al and Ding et al - sorry abstract only.  Yamamoto et al seem to demur too.  Oh.  It looks like the Arctic sea ice cover is only slightly changed from the LIA.  Also it looks like the ice cover is about as high as it's been over the last 10k years. 
Does anyone see anything like that in any of those papers?
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Dave, are you aware that there was a school shooting recently?
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I still believe that somewhere under your antagonistic nature, there is a decent human being who means well.

That's because you're a very nice person.
Seriously. I stopped believing that about Dave long ago.
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Wow this larger mobile pen with the leader follower arrangement for the cow is working great! Pasture impact is the best I've ever had and animal condition is great even though it's February.
I'm the best you'll meet at pasture impact and animal condition, believe me.

(It's really amazing how often Dave posts variations of this meaningless Trumpism.)

ETA: Dave, do you understand that just saying something is "great" or "the best" isn't actually meaningful to anyone?
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It was being reported before the new charges came out that he was close, but he never actually did. Maybe the new charges finally put enough pressure on him to seal the deal.
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My belief is that all this NGE whiz-bang stuff was programmed by God in the beginning and the evidence that we have is actually consistent with that view.
In exactly the same way all the evidence we have is consistent with the proposition that the universe was created last Thursday, and our apparent memories of the apparent past were programmed into our brains.
I think it's one of the most tragic symptoms of Dave's demon that it won't allow him to understand the significance of Last Thursdayism.

ETA: Though it's entirely possible he's just too dumb to get it anyway.
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When I first told you people that I have "maintenance free" sheep, you didn't believe me.  Now do you believe me?  Or at least that they are virtually maintenance free?
No.
If you Davine "virtually" a certain way...
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Sadly posts like that are entirely lost on Dave because he doesn't just suck at making analogies, he sucks at understanding them too.

And any way he does think the pyramids were built by aliens, doesn't he?  Or something?
I don't remember. Does he?

It might have been humans with a hotline to God.  Something spooky anyway.
Yeah, I feel like it was part of his whole prisca sapientia thing. People just knew how to do things better back then because they hadn't yet lost all the originally revealed knowledge.
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Here's another thing that Shapiro gets, but you Hawkinsed past it, or possibly simply stole someone else's quotemine:


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This 21st century view of evolution establishes a reasonable connection between ecological changes, cell and organism responses, widespread genome restructuring, and the rapid emergence of adaptive inventions. It also answers the objections to conventional theory raised by intelligent design advocates, because evolution by natural genetic engineering has the capacity to generate complex novelties. In other words, our best defense against anti-science obscurantism comes from the study of mobile DNA because that is the subject that has most significantly transformed evolution from natural history into a vibrant empirical science.

It's in the paragraph directly below the one you cited.

oh yeah I've read that too. It's irrelevant though because it's just Shapiro's speculation. In science, you see, observation and evidence is much more interesting than speculation.
First Law
LOL yeah, wow. I think that's the most explicitly he's ever stated it too.

Hey Dave, would you agree that all evidences for evolution are speculative, and all speculations for creationism are evidential?
Of course not.  Evolution occurs.  We have loads of evidence that it does.  But it's different from how idiots like you imagine it to be.  You don't understand evolution because you don't understand what organisms really are.
So your answer is to reDavine "evolution" (and also "organisms"). What if I replaced "evolution" with "Darwinism"?

Dave, would you agree that all evidences for Darwinism are speculative, and all speculations for creationism are evidential?
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Sadly posts like that are entirely lost on Dave because he doesn't just suck at making analogies, he sucks at understanding them too.

And any way he does think the pyramids were built by aliens, doesn't he?  Or something?
I don't remember. Does he?
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It's easy to only have maintenance-free things. Just get rid of anything you have that requires maintenance!
Yup ... that's the idea.
And replace it with a new one.

So sustainable. So efficient.
It's actually quite.  On both counts.  I'm surprised you've never heard of artificial selection.  People have doing it for thousands of years.
That's not artificial selection, you moron. What the guy you got your sheep from is doing is artificial selection. He has a large herd and is selectively breeding it. If he loses some, he has plenty of others. You, on the other hand, have a handful of animals. If you lose some, you have to bring in others from outside your operation to replace them. That's neither sustainable nor efficient, and it certainly isn't artificial selection. It's just a particularly inept form of hobby farming.
1) I was talking about him, not me.
But in my post that you responded to, where I made that point about just getting rid of anything you have that requires maintenance, I was talking about you. Did you notice the post directly above that one?
so, when you cull from a herd of, say, 2, do you get the same benefits of culling that you do from a herd of, say, 200?
Or was that one of the many posts that's selectively invisible to you? (Hey, there's an example of artificial selection!)

2) You're an idiot.
As clever and original as ever, Dave!

3) What I am doing IS sustainable from a FEED perspective.  How many times do I have to say that "no inputs" for me means "no COMMERCIAL FEED" inputs.  Geez.
You don't ever have to say it because it's idiotic. Every time you say it, people will continue to point out how idiotic it is. Just because you don't count certain things as inputs doesn't mean they aren't inputs. Sustainable from an X perspective doesn't actually mean sustainable.
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Sadly posts like that are entirely lost on Dave because he doesn't just suck at making analogies, he sucks at understanding them too.
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You guys just don't understand the 8D chess Shapiro is playing. He's so smart that he's figured out that saying the dumbest possible shit is the best way to be revered as a genius by the right.
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I mean, realistically, that one guy wasn't going to be able to stop anything, which is why everyone should shut up about their idiot fantasies of arming school teachers.

Oh, yeah. Oooh, ahhh, that's how it always starts. Then later there's teachers shooting up kids because they were mouthing off in class. Or felt threatened by large black male students who decide to do whatever that makes white people lose their shit and shoot them.

Only one solution: Arm the students too.

I feel like it's only a matter of time before someone suggests that unironically, if they haven't already. If they ever did get their dumb fantasy of arming teachers to come true, and teachers started shooting students, as they inevitably would, I have to imagine this would pretty quickly become a popular right-wing opinion.
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Science / Re: NH winter cooling
I'm a little disappointed we didn't get any ad hom about Mann in that post. Come on, Cephus! Have you forgotten the hockey stick? Also no railing against the unexpressed idea that this means Earth will soon become another Venus. Very disappointing. Plenty of the trademark incredulity though, so it's good to see that's still consistent.

There was one bit that I find really baffling though...
Did carbon dioxide suddenly increase rapidly to account for the hypothesis that carbon dioxide drove the event?  No it obviously did not.
Um...what? I thought if there was one thing even deniers agreed to it was that CO2 levels have been rising rapidly over the past century. Is Cephus denying even that?
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Here's another thing that Shapiro gets, but you Hawkinsed past it, or possibly simply stole someone else's quotemine:


Quote
This 21st century view of evolution establishes a reasonable connection between ecological changes, cell and organism responses, widespread genome restructuring, and the rapid emergence of adaptive inventions. It also answers the objections to conventional theory raised by intelligent design advocates, because evolution by natural genetic engineering has the capacity to generate complex novelties. In other words, our best defense against anti-science obscurantism comes from the study of mobile DNA because that is the subject that has most significantly transformed evolution from natural history into a vibrant empirical science.

It's in the paragraph directly below the one you cited.

oh yeah I've read that too. It's irrelevant though because it's just Shapiro's speculation. In science, you see, observation and evidence is much more interesting than speculation.
First Law
LOL yeah, wow. I think that's the most explicitly he's ever stated it too.

Hey Dave, would you agree that all evidences for evolution are speculative, and all speculations for creationism are evidential?
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It's easy to only have maintenance-free things. Just get rid of anything you have that requires maintenance!
Yup ... that's the idea.
And replace it with a new one.

So sustainable. So efficient.
It's actually quite.  On both counts.  I'm surprised you've never heard of artificial selection.  People have doing it for thousands of years.
That's not artificial selection, you moron. What the guy you got your sheep from is doing is artificial selection. He has a large herd and is selectively breeding it. If he loses some, he has plenty of others. You, on the other hand, have a handful of animals. If you lose some, you have to bring in others from outside your operation to replace them. That's neither sustainable nor efficient, and it certainly isn't artificial selection. It's just a particularly inept form of hobby farming.
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LOL. It's also easy to have no inputs when you don't count anything you add to the system as an input!
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It's easy to only have maintenance-free things. Just get rid of anything you have that requires maintenance!
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Science / Re: NH winter cooling
Don't worry, I'm sure Cephus will be along soon to express his trademark incredulity, probably with some ad hom about Mann and idiotic mockery of some strawman position no one actually expressed included as well.

And of course FX will tell us it's all bullshit.
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We'd just need to set some parameters. Anyone want to take a stab at naming one?