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It says "servant" in the title FFS and "service means free.

How very dare they!
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How dare people expect recompense for effort!!

Who do they think they are? Salesmen or hobby farmers!

The nerve!
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They didn't actually do any boring, they just googled up info from oil company cores?

Where is the OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE?

Well they bored me.

Dishonest crap tends to do that.

There's no problem gathering and reanalysing other people's data, particularly where you can compare data from a number of studies.

Happens all the time.

Usually with honest intensions.

This is ICR though so anything goes.
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MEGASUCKAGE

That's what we are really talking about here ... and to dig deep into megasuckages, we need to consult me ... here's a nice little franoogle with some background on my work ... i have no idea what this paper actually says but I scored it with a simplistic search term looking for mineable phrases.



I guarantee you that's how every other person read your post.
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So, can we conclude that the question " Was the Slavery Issue the Primary Cause of the Civil War?" to have been answered in the affirmative, lock the thread and let David continue the inane drivel in one of the other threads he's created for the purpose?
Meh. The question has been code for white nationalism long enough that the thread title works as "defending Nazi ideology just fine.

Good point.
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"Overgrazing is a well known component of desertification in a lot of places"

Nice Dodge. Skillfully done.

My question remains and it was very specific.

Try again.

Yes, your question remains specifically moronic.

All/some/none.
No it doesn't. But your dodging is quite revealing. My guess is that you do agree with the conclusions of the article I posted and the reason you do is not because you have personally examined data regarding the Mongolian steppe. If this is the case, then you are a hypocrite.

Surprisingly enough, yes I am familiar with the Mongolian data, it's kinda my area (though very peripherally) and I pay a little attention coz I know people working in the region (even though their work there has been largely geological). I do have to admit I have largely ignored your wittering though, it seems largely irrelevant to your Saharan extractions.

Here's a hint though, you might be surprised to find that research papers generally have a number of sections, one of which is often called "results".

Try ctrl-fing, I'm sure you could find it.
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Actually if we want to be closer to the truth, we would not talk as much about overgrazing... We would talk about improper or non earth-friendly agriculture which includes overgrazing but also includes tillage as well.  Both of these practices are almost always preceded by deforestation.

You mean like, say, reducing the canopy by 50%
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"Overgrazing is a well known component of desertification in a lot of places"

Nice Dodge. Skillfully done.

My question remains and it was very specific.

Try again.

Yes, your question remains specifically moronic.

All/some/none.
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If we find an abundance of articles data supporting that view and the articles data seem to be well researched supported, then we can consider the hypothesis to be tentatively supported and begin to look for confounding factors, defeaters, errors, alternative explanations, additional components etc. etc..

Welcome to science!

FYP

All/some/none.
Quick question.  Do you accept that desertification is being caused by overgrazing on the Mongolian steppe?  If so, was it an ARTICLE that convinced you?  DATA?  Both? Something else? 

Overgrazing is a well known component of desertification in a lot of places, as are a lot of other well known processes.

Pulling one factor out and declaring it the be all and end all behind a complicated process (without even considering (or outright dismissing) other factors or combinations of factors is simplistic (reductionist even)) and entirely unhelpful.

All/some/none.
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So, can we conclude that the question " Was the Slavery Issue the Primary Cause of the Civil War?" to have been answered in the affirmative, lock the thread and let David continue the inane drivel in one of the other threads he's created for the purpose?
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If we find an abundance of articles data supporting that view and the articles data seem to be well researched supported, then we can consider the hypothesis to be tentatively supported and begin to look for confounding factors, defeaters, errors, alternative explanations, additional components etc. etc..

Welcome to science!

FYP

All/some/none.
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Fucking pyramids are made out of them.
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Plenty of marine fossils in the Sahara.
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Hey girls ... got anything interesting to talk about RE: saving agriculture?

Little too close to home?

Triggered?

Run away, run away!
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Hello socrates1,

I see than you currently have made 2,800+ posts and you have received 1 upvote.
Do you mind my asking... who gave you the 1 upvote and what post it was for?

If you have a constructive contribution on the topic of this thread please post it.

Funny, I was thinking the very same thing.

Do you have any constructive on-topic contribution to make Socrates?
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Lol

Sea Star has been trolling me this whole time.
In other words, you can't explain how that article is evidence for your claim. Good to know.
Nope. I did. But you will probably continue to pretend I didnt.

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Okay, let's go on to my claim that you preach, not teach. I presented my evidence earlier - shall I repost it?
Nah. You are not a good student.
Please quote your post that explains how that article is evidence for your claim.
You are not a good teacher. You are not a teacher at all. You aren't even a good preacher.

David's motivation at base isn't teaching or preaching.

It's sales.

David sees himself as a salesman.

Would you buy a window from this man?

https://youtu.be/yw7yA9ylCHA
Lol!
Preaching is sales though.

True, but ya know what I mean.

Showing that David's facts are wrong makes little impression, just means he isn't selling them right.
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Lol

Sea Star has been trolling me this whole time.
In other words, you can't explain how that article is evidence for your claim. Good to know.
Nope. I did. But you will probably continue to pretend I didnt.

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Okay, let's go on to my claim that you preach, not teach. I presented my evidence earlier - shall I repost it?
Nah. You are not a good student.
Please quote your post that explains how that article is evidence for your claim.
You are not a good teacher. You are not a teacher at all. You aren't even a good preacher.

David's motivation at base isn't teaching or preaching.

It's sales.

David sees himself as a salesman.

Would you buy a window from this man?

https://youtu.be/yw7yA9ylCHA
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That wasn't the experiment you liar.

No, it was careless, ignorant, unthinking behaviour on your part. But don't go trumpeting 'experiments' when you're really just too stubborn and lazy to build a fence, and make up some stupid rationale for sticking all your animals in a cage.
Actually, yes it was. What Dave learned from that was that predators eat chickens and rabbits if they are left unprotected. He could have just asked someone else over the age of, say, 3, but he had to run the experiment himself.

Well the majority is usually wrong donchaknow.
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...as was trapped in violent mob for 10 minutes...

10 minutes in a "violent mob" but no injuries. Pretty incompetent violent mob.

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...had to turn phone off...

What sort of weird justification for what is going on in there?
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Anyway if you spend any time Googling at all on the topic of desertification, you learn pretty quickly ... for example from this source ... https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/agricultural-and-biological-sciences/desertification

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Desertification

James F. Reynolds, in Encyclopedia of Biodiversity, 2001
III.A.
Africa: Extensive Problems

Desertification is perhaps most often associated with Africa, due largely to the great droughts and famines of the 1970s and 1980s. The drought in the Sudano-Sahel region in the early 1970s claimed more than 250,000 lives, left millions destitute, and resulted in mass migrations of rural people to urban areas in search of food, housing, and work. Similarly, in 1982-1986 the combined effects of severe drought and civil war killed more than 1 million Ethiopians. These high-profile events received much attention from the world media and served to cement the association of desertification with Africa. However, the true problems of desertification in Africa are much more complex than these tragic, but relatively short-lived, localized events.
More than one-third of the world's drylands are found in Africa (Table II) and one-third of Africa is considered to suffer from some degree of land degradation, including more than 70% of all agricultural lands. The African regions most affected by desertification include the northern portion of the continent, the Sudano-Sahelian (equatorial) region, and the Kalahari-Namib in the south. In the arid and semiarid zones of Algeria, Libya, Morocco, and Tunisia, overgrazing of rangelands has led to severe soil erosion and loss of vegetation. This loss of valuable topsoil, combined with a cycle of droughts, has resulted in declining production and intensified food insecurity. Rain-fed croplands in this region have been degraded by the use of inappropriate heavy machinery, salinization, and cultivation of dry, sandy soils. Woodlands have been cleared for fuel or by fires for agriculture and grazing. In the Sudano-Sahelian region the story is basically the same: fragile soils degraded through improper cultivation practices, deforestation, and overgrazing, leaving the land more vulnerable to drought and soil erosion. In southern Africa, overgrazing has led to severe land degradation and a decrease in productivity.

Michael Darkoh of the University of Botswana recently reviewed the large number of programs and organizations established in Africa during the past 30 years to help arrest and mitigate the effects of drought and desertification. The list is long, and these programs involve a plethora of action plans and activities and usually result in the formation of various types of organizations at the local, regional, and national levels (see Section IV). Unfortunately, many of these efforts have had limited success. The reasons for these failures vary from region to region but include such factors as lack of political will, shortage of funds, lack of participation of the people directly affected, inappropriate land-tenure policies, civil strife, misdirected research priorities, failure to include desertification control activities in national development plans, and a failure of governments to make desertification a priority. Poor countries have found it difficult to finance environmental programs aimed to protect natural resources, and often foreign financial and technical assistance has been used to support urban populations at the expense of rural ones. Of course, none of these problems and concerns are necessarily unique to Africa.

None of this is remotely controversial. Coincidentally none of this remotely supports your bullshit.

Notice how that long list of contributing factors does not include "failure to implement particular flavours of stock management scheme"?
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So Dave,
If I find proof of your quote mining, will you acknowledge it?

Not. A. Chance.
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Pingu's climate theory is WILD speculation. 

At least mine has some footing in reality.

Alternative reality.
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Note the distinctly narcissistic assymetry a la AIG here?

Age of the earth relies on "historical science" so we claim it's unreliable (Were you there??1?1).

We observe a small area somewhere undergoing desertification largely due to overgrazing so David is totes justified in claiming the Sahara is an exactly identical thing.

Hypocrisy rules in Davetopia.
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Are termites herbivores in Davetopia?