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Re: Smarter than your average bear
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This is all just vicious propaganda against bears. Jesus Christ, nearly every kid has a teddy bear, so why would parents give them a symbol of violence to cuddle? Bears know their place in the Great Chain Of Being, and I know this because the great bear expert, Robert Byers, told me so. Ok sometimes bears need careful handling. But really the fault is with humans, because some people don't believe we were made in god's image, so of course the bear will eat them. And so it should. Polar bears were once evil, because they killed innocent humans, but then a firm man of god came along, and frightened these bears white by preaching the confident, and mighty word of the lord god to them.

You people know NOTHING!
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You know in your heart it is true
"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and man."
― Mark Twain 🔭

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https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2017/06/08/bear-breaks-into-colorado-house-plays-the-piano-but-not-very-well/

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In the living room, as security camera footage would later reveal, the bear took in the views, loped around the coffee table and briefly stood on its hind legs to play the piano. The animal was less adept with that human-designed apparatus: The music was not very good.

Well maybe if you people would let bears into music stores, they could actually take piano lessons and play better music for you, ASSHOLES.

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As if to prove the point, the piano-playing bear came back about an hour after Hawley went back inside, she said. The police returned to shoo him up the hill. Hawley said she heard it come back a few more times that day to pound at the window, which by then was locked. She ignored it.

He should've stood outside her window with a boom box.

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Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

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"This is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."

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cute bear

hate its situation

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:(

In the beginning, the guy is telling the other guy to tell the bear to do something, and I want both of these guys to get mauled.

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Not a real bear, koala bears.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0cAx1jLbJk

Kinda pitiful, but info on video says he got his tree back later that day.

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National Geographic - Photo of the Day  Sept. 25, 2017

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In Canada's Wapusk National Park, a mother polar bear cuddles with her two cubs. When polar bears are born, they weigh only a pound. They'll stay with their mother in a hibernation den until they reach 20-30 pounds, at which point they all venture out into the world. Female polar bears have about five litters over the course of their lives, a significantly lower reproduction rate than other mammals.
[photograph by Quinn Chan]

"This is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."

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Reply #61
The cuteness, it burns!!!  :stopper:

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Reply #62
Polar bears are outrageously cute as babies and unbelievably beautiful animals as adults.

Also will kill and eat you without a second thought if hungry.

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Okay this one is about a teddy bear and not a real bear but I don't care:

http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/teddy-bear-flies-200-miles-reunited-year-girl/story?id=51364984



 :)

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Aww.

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Couldn't decide if Bears or Cats thread.

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https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/12/polar-bear-starving-arctic-sea-ice-melt-climate-change-spd/

 :cry:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/animalia/wp/2017/12/09/we-stood-there-crying-the-story-behind-the-emotional-video-of-a-starving-polar-bear/

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A paper, published in July, said that the higher global temperatures go the more likely polar bears are to interact with humans -- and possibly attack and eat them.

The only silver lining, IMO.

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Some expressed skepticism that anything could be gleaned about the environment from one image. A commenter on the National Geographic's Facebook page wondered about the bear's age, when the footage was taken and what an autopsy would show.

This is why we deserve to be eaten by bears.

Of course you can't tell exactly what was wrong with this individual bear and why, but it's a fact that the polar bear population is crashing and that a huge contributor to their decline is climate change. Anyone who thinks that publishing a well-reasoned paper with citations is enough to get the public interested in fucking doing anything is an idiot.

We didn't get to where we are with reducing smoking rates by going on at length about the mechanisms of how cigarettes cause disease. People didn't read scientific papers and learn all of the details of how cigarettes cause the harm they cause. We got there through PR and advertising, through images and slogans and stories about real people dying horrible deaths. Because that's what fucking works.

So if showing someone a horribly sad video of a starving polar bear and saying, "Hey, lots of bears are going to end up like this one because of climate change" gets more people to pay attention and pressure those in power to change things, then I'm okay with it even if it turns out this particular bear's muscle atrophy and weakness was actually due to lymphoma or whatever. It's no different than showing the horror of a non-smoker dying from lung cancer and saying, "This is what lung cancer looks like, and smoking leads to more people ending up like this."
  • Last Edit: December 10, 2017, 12:54:59 PM by meepmeep

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Re: Smarter than your average bear
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I don't disagree with you, but this twitter essay is worth a view



tldr he thinks that bear had cancer
braying among the ruins

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He had me until he started speculating about osteosarc citing only Zoobiquity and then "I learned today there's a National Canine Cancer Foundation."

I mean, it's good to know that this particular bear is a total outlier for that specific population. It's interesting to read about how some of these populations are managed and tracked. And, yeah, shit like this makes deniers dig their heels in, but deniers are mostly unreachable. They don't respond to detailed, reasonable analysis, either. You're not going to change their minds pretty much no matter what you do or how you approach the issue.

But I've never seen any references to osteosarcoma in ursine species. Just because it's very common in some dog breeds doesn't mean it's likely to be seen in every other species. Even within the species, it's rare in some breeds of dog. Osteosarcoma is also rare in cats and is not as aggressive as it is in dogs. It's extremely rare in other species like horses and cattle. In dogs, the majority of tumors appear on the appendicular skeleton, and of those, the front limb is the most common site (distal radius/ulna, specifically). By the time you see an actual lump, it's likely already metastasized, most often to the lungs. By that point, the animal is usually non-weight bearing on that limb or showing more obvious signs of pain or altered gait. That bear is dragging both hind limbs from what looks like simple weakness but later bears (lol) weight on all 4 limbs and walks in a way that looks relatively normal to me. Compared to all the time I've spent watching bears in zoos. :mason:

As for the "similar signs," muscle atrophy and weakness can be associated with a billion different things and many types of cancer. The dogs I've seen with osteosarcoma (and often pretty big lesions, confirmed metastasis to the lungs on X-ray by the time they come in) haven't looked like some other cancer patients. The ones I've seen have mostly been alert and in decent body condition. It mets so rapidly that there's often not much time for muscle wasting and some of the other signs you see with other types of cancer, even though they often stop eating. At the very end, they look like complete shit, but body condition may not necessarily change that quickly. So I don't know why he zeroed in on osteosarcoma specifically. I'm no bear doctor and think it's certainly within the realm of possibility that this bear had some kind of cancer or some other underlying disease, but if we're going to beep boop it up, let's beep boop it up for real.  :smugprof:

eta btw Zoobiquity is a very good book, and everyone should read it
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so wrong, but so cute!

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