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  • SkepticTank
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War with N. Korea, is it inevitable?
So they have a rocket that can reach the US west coast and midwest.

Now their submarines seem to have extended capabilities.

Where does it go from here?

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So they have a rocket that can reach the US west coast and midwest.

Now their submarines seem to have extended capabilities.

Where does it go from here?

We somehow convince the Chinese to nuke them, under the cover of some of their experiments gone wrong, including the missiles .
Are we there yet?

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Do we secretly evacuate 51 million South Korean residents first?

  • RAFH
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Do we secretly evacuate 51 million South Korean residents first?

Why would we do that?
Are we there yet?

  • SkepticTank
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I dunno, maybe because we don't want a whole bunch of our allies to get killed by collateral damage.

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I dunno, maybe because we don't want a whole bunch of our allies to get killed by collateral damage.

Pyongyang is a good 100 miles from Seoul, they should be OK.


Are we there yet?

  • nesb
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North Korea (best Korea) already had a gun to the head of Seoul. I don't think we change our basic alignment towards them because they threaten us directly. Can't say what Trump or Un are going to do, though.

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The more powerful that nutcase is the more likely he will make unacceptable demands for danegeld.

  • ksen
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The more powerful that nutcase is the more likely he will make unacceptable demands for danegeld.
True, which is why congress should pass legislation restricting Trump from demanding danegeld.

  • linus
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So they have a rocket that can reach the US west coast and midwest.

Now their submarines seem to have extended capabilities.

Where does it go from here?
China doesn't want a unified Korea. China and Russia don't want US military bases in North Korea. And China probably also doesn't want the mass starvation in NK to turn into a different kind of humanitarian crisis that China would have greater ownership over. AFAICT, the path of least resistance by far is just to let NK develop their nuclear weapons.

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That's why it's important to get China to do it. Nobody will complain lest they stop sending the shit they don't need and stop buying vitals they do need. Hey, the Chinese are renowned for their toughness this could be an example to the world.

"Our workers outnumger you 10 to 1, if not 100 to 1, and they will be willing to work even harder for the State, You cannot win!"






And if you do look like you might, we'll buy you out and replace everyone with robots!!
Are we there yet?

  • nesb
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Why doesn't Seoul have Iron Dome?

This is the question I'm asking, but with a literal iron dome. Alternative solution: steal North Korea's nukes while they're sleeping.

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I dunno, maybe because we don't want a whole bunch of our allies to get killed by collateral damage.

Pyongyang is a good 100 miles from Seoul, they should be OK.




Read somewhere that Pyongyang has so much artillery aimed at Seoul that could reach them that if there was a war, it's possible Seoul would be decimated fairly quickly.
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I'm counting on a heart attack or stroke to take Kim out any day now. 

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I dunno, maybe because we don't want a whole bunch of our allies to get killed by collateral damage.

Pyongyang is a good 100 miles from Seoul, they should be OK.




Read somewhere that Pyongyang has so much artillery aimed at Seoul that could reach them that if there was a war, it's possible Seoul would be decimated fairly quickly.

It might have been this (a very good and sobering article)

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/07/the-worst-problem-on-earth/528717/

If we go to war with the norks I will rejoin the Navy and get my own attack boat.

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I dunno, maybe because we don't want a whole bunch of our allies to get killed by collateral damage.

Pyongyang is a good 100 miles from Seoul, they should be OK.




Read somewhere that Pyongyang has so much artillery aimed at Seoul that could reach them that if there was a war, it's possible Seoul would be decimated fairly quickly.

It might have been this (a very good and sobering article)

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/07/the-worst-problem-on-earth/528717/

If we go to war with the norks I will rejoin the Navy and get my own attack boat.

No need to rejoin the Navy, Trump will issue letters of marquis!

I don't think NK artillery can hit all of Seoul, but a whole lot of people are still within range and idiot Americans talking about what "needs to be done" without taking that into account or even realizing that attacking NK might have impacts on other people amuse me.

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talking about what "needs to be done" without taking that into account or even realizing that attacking NK might have impacts on other people amuse me.
Oh, they know. They just don't care. They're just koreans and they're practically brown.

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Twenty-five million reasons the U.S. hasn't struck North Korea



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The Second Corps of the Korean People's Army stationed at Kaesong on the northern side of the DMZ has about 500 artillery pieces, Bermudez said. And this is just one army corps; similar corps are on either side of it.

All the artillery pieces in the Second Corps can reach the northern outskirts of Seoul, just 30 miles from the DMZ, but the largest projectiles could fly to the south of the capital.
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About half of North Korea's artillery pieces are multiple rocket launchers, including 18 to 36 of the huge 300mm launchers that Pyongyang has bragged about. State media last year published photos of the system during a test firing that Kim attended.

The 300mm guns could probably fire eight rounds every 15 minutes, Bermudez said, and have a range of about 44 miles.
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If North Korea were to start unleashing its artillery on the South, it would be able to fire about 4,000 rounds an hour, Roger Cavazos of the Nautilus Institute estimated in a 2012 study. There would be 2,811 fatalities in the initial volley and 64,000 people could be killed that first day, the majority of them in the first three hours, he wrote.
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Some of the victims would be American, because the U.S. military has about 28,000 troops in South Korea. The higher estimates for the 300mm rocket launcher's range -- up to 65 miles -- would put the U.S. Air Force base at Osan and the new military garrison at Pyeongtaek, the replacement for the huge base in Seoul, within reach.

Uggghh.  It will be like a World War 1 preparatory barrage.

Although the South Korea military isn't exactly impudent or ignorant of this threat so anti-artillery return fire will begin to damage the NK pieces.

And then the ground war will be long, arduous and deadly with your imagination-run-wild type of defensive barriers (in addition to the miles of land mines).

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you'll feel a slight warming sensation and then nothing forever

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that sounds kind of nice tbh

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Inshallah

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seriously though we're going to be bombing NK and I won't be shocked if its with nuclear weapons

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I feels slightly annoyed that the the end of the world is going to be characterized in Trumpian terms such as "like you've never seen before in ya life"