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Re: Thread for self righteous men
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And if we really really really want to get serious about "not exploiting young people" ... let's talk about how SCIENTISTS are poisoning young minds in public schools with "fake science" about how the earth is millions of years old and your uncle is a monkey and we all evolved from pond scum and so on.  Oh and how about vaccinations?  Shooting up babies with a scary cocktail of god-knows-what and LYING to parents telling them it's good for their kids.

Yeah ... let's talk about exploiting people, shall we?
Lol.  You're an absolute peach, David
While you were getting your PhD in virology, I got my PhD in truth detection. :wave:  Dave Hawkins

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Re: Thread for self righteous men
Reply #26
It's 'Dave the drama llama' time on talkrational.
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Reply #27
So Dave, how old is your daughter again?    You going to be alright with a 70 year old man hanging around her cheerleading practices, or following her around at the mall?    She'll be of breeding age, so fair game?
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Re: Thread for self righteous men
Reply #28
So Dave, how old is your daughter again?    You going to be alright with a 70 year old man hanging around her cheerleading practices, or following her around at the mall?    She'll be of breeding age, so fair game?
Jesus Christ.  Either you can't read or you are profoundly dishonest.

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Re: Thread for self righteous men
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And if we really really really want to get serious about "not exploiting young people" ... let's talk about how SCIENTISTS are poisoning young minds in public schools with "fake science" about how the earth is millions of years old and your uncle is a monkey and we all evolved from pond scum and so on.  Oh and how about vaccinations?  Shooting up babies with a scary cocktail of god-knows-what and LYING to parents telling them it's good for their kids.

Yeah ... let's talk about exploiting people, shall we?
Yes.
Let's talk about all those things.
Is that what you started this thread for?
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Re: Thread for self righteous men
Reply #30
I love it.
Giving a "Woo-hoo!" to a septuagenarian managing to get sex with a 15 year old girl is just one of those cultural things... and hey, it's all relative... somewhere in the same spectrum of bad < ---- > good with shopping at Walmart.

But what's REALLY EXPLOITATIVE !!!1!  is teaching science that Dave Hawkins refuses to accept (but cannot refute and badgers from every abortive attempt to even try).
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Re: Thread for self righteous men
Reply #31
And:
  And yes, genital mutilation in young African women is horrible ... I didn't know anything about it until yesterday ...
Seriously?

An educated man (at least in his own estimation) in the 21st century, who judges himself wise enough in the ways of the world to lead that world to Salvation (see other thread),  just learned about the practice of female genital mutilation...
YESTERDAY? ? ?


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Re: Thread for self righteous men
Reply #32
And if we really really really want to get serious about "not exploiting young people" ... let's talk about how SCIENTISTS are poisoning young minds in public schools with "fake science" about how the earth is millions of years old and your uncle is a monkey and we all evolved from pond scum and so on.  Oh and how about vaccinations?  Shooting up babies with a scary cocktail of god-knows-what and LYING to parents telling them it's good for their kids.

Yeah ... let's talk about exploiting people, shall we?
Why, if you actually want to talk about this, instead of your base sexual desires, do you RUN AWAY from each attempt to discuss them? You spineless hypocrite, you STILL can't cogently parse the argument you oppose, clinging to childish misrepresentations instead.

You are a real crowning example of manhood, Dave.

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Reply #33
"Run away"?

Been here 12 years, bro.  Few are more engaged than me.

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Re: Thread for self righteous men
Reply #34
Yes, run away. There's a reason you badger from threads that show via evidence that YEC is complete bullshit. You are scared to address the data and its implications. You've never been engaged with evidence, just content-free cheerleading for your desired beliefs.

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Reply #35
"Run away"?

Been here 12 years, bro.  Few are more engaged than me.

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Reply #36
"Run away"?

Been here 12 years, bro.  Few are more engaged than me.

Huuuge engagement.  Engagement like you wouldn't believe. 

Didn't engage with Pingu over C14 though did you?  No, you ran away.

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Re: Thread for self righteous men
Reply #37
I love how Dave is framing women who pose for Playboy as exploited
Nah. He's saying that if we were consistent, then we would consider them exploited.
Yes exactly.  Young women are exploited by Playboy and all the other pornographers ... whether they are 15 or 18 or 21 ... they're ALL exploited ... and in a perfect world NO MEN would look at or buy those magazines or look at porn online etc.  But all of us do ... somewhat at least.  Even Holy Faid.  For that matter, if we are going to talk about exploited people, what about all the stuff we buy at Walmart made with prison labor?  Ever read up on Christmas lights and how they are made?  And yes, genital mutilation in young African women is horrible ... I didn't know anything about it until yesterday ... I DO have empathy and no, I would HATE to have that done to me if I were that 15 year old girl.  But this is a separate issue from "marrying an old guy" ... you guys have a strange habit of mixing issues ... not sure why you do it, but possibly it's because you see your position is inconsistent and you want to obscure that fact so you dispense a bunch of squid ink to try to hide your true (inconsistent) views.  In any case, "marrying an old guy" may be a genuine honor in Masai society (you have no idea) and it's in a completely different category that "genital mutilation."  And there is not a single man here - even Holy Faid - who doesn't prefer the visual stimulation of a hot young woman over an older woman.  It's biology.  It's how you were created, men.  Quit trying to deny it.  Accept it, admit it, control it.  In OUR society, don't marry 15 year olds.  It's a bad idea.  Don't date them either.  And if you're really feeling holy, stop looking at porn online which probably involves women who are younger than you imagine.  (And stop buying Christmas lights) In our society, in my opinion, a woman should not marry until her early 20s or so.  But in Masai society ... who knows?  I honestly don't understand much about their society yet and neither do you.  From reading the article I posted, I have no indication whatsoever that this young woman was being forced against her will to marry that old dude.  Maybe she was in indirect ways ... I don't know.  But women are pretty perceptive - more so than men - and you would think that that woman teacher would have written that paragraph a bit differently if she had detected any problem in this relationship.  So chill.  And quit acting like you're all righteous and I'm some kind of creep.  Or don't ... and continue to reinforce my image of you as self righteous hypocritical bastards.  My "woo hoo" was nothing more than an honest admission that MOST MEN would enjoy (1) variety and (2) younger rather than older in their sex life if given the free choice.  I think that's the basic problem here is that you guys are not completely honest ... even with yourselves.

Read this, Dave. Show you care enough to at least read one page of information:

https://keepgirlssafe.org/child-marriage/

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Re: Thread for self righteous men
Reply #38
... you guys have a strange habit of mixing issues ... not sure why you do it, but possibly it's because you see your position is inconsistent and you want to obscure that fact so you dispense a bunch of squid ink to try to hide your true (inconsistent) views.

And if we really really really want to get serious about "not exploiting young people" ... let's talk about how SCIENTISTS are poisoning young minds in public schools with "fake science" about how the earth is millions of years old and your uncle is a monkey and we all evolved from pond scum and so on.  Oh and how about vaccinations?  Shooting up babies with a scary cocktail of god-knows-what and LYING to parents telling them it's good for their kids.

Yeah ... let's talk about exploiting people, shall we?

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Re: Thread for self righteous men
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Re: Thread for self righteous men
Reply #40
I love how Dave is framing women who pose for Playboy as exploited
Nah. He's saying that if we were consistent, then we would consider them exploited.
Yes exactly.  Young women are exploited by Playboy and all the other pornographers ... whether they are 15 or 18 or 21 ... they're ALL exploited ...
So women posing for Playboy are exploited. But prostitutes aren't, as you have argued in the past (at least not those who "enjoy sex"). And 15yo girls marrying old geezers are.... What?
and in a perfect world NO MEN would look at or buy those magazines or look at porn online etc.  But all of us do ... somewhat at least.  Even Holy Faid.
So this is not a perfect world. So fucking what? Does that mean we should not try to make it a BETTER one? YOU of all people, with your delusions of grandeur and savior complex? Do you REALLY think that, if one watches porn on the internet, they cannot complain if a 74yo man marries a 15yo girl? And that they should go "woo hoo" instead? Do you SERIOUSLY think those two things are equivalent?
For that matter, if we are going to talk about exploited people, what about all the stuff we buy at Walmart made with prison labor?  Ever read up on Christmas lights and how they are made?
Good for you dave. And you should keep this in mind, and do anything that you can against it.

What you should NOT do, however, is say something like "Hey, who am I to say slavery is not right? We are ALL guilty of buying stuff made with prison labor, so we are HYPOCRITES if we accuse other cultures of keeping slaves! If it's ok in their CULTURE, how can we say it's wrong? I'm not going to adopt any FAKE moral standards- Perhaps slaves are happy and proud to serve some "Wise" and "Virtuous" owner! If SlaveDude from SlaveLand wants to keep slaves, I say WOO HOO!".

Sounds pretty shitty, huh? Well guess what: That's the SAME deranged 'reverse slippery slope' that you apply on the child marriage issue.
And before you say "it's not the same, different subject" remember that YOU brought up forced labor exploitation as relevant. ;)
And yes, genital mutilation in young African women is horrible ... I didn't know anything about it until yesterday ...
Wow.
I DO have empathy and no, I would HATE to have that done to me if I were that 15 year old girl.  But this is a separate issue from "marrying an old guy" ... you guys have a strange habit of mixing issues ...
So child marriage does not go in the same basket as genital mutilation. But it goes in the same basket as oogling centerfolds.

Again, dave- Seriously?
not sure why you do it, but possibly it's because you see your position is inconsistent and you want to obscure that fact so you dispense a bunch of squid ink to try to hide your true (inconsistent) views.
The Great Projector strikes again.

In any case, "marrying an old guy" may be a genuine honor in Masai society (you have no idea) and it's in a completely different category that "genital mutilation."
But YOU "have an idea", apparently. And all those organizations dedicated to battling child marriage do not. Right, dave?
And there is not a single man here - even Holy Faid - who doesn't prefer the visual stimulation of a hot young woman over an older woman.  It's biology.  It's how you were created, men.  Quit trying to deny it.  Accept it, admit it, control it.
Lol. those are some pretty funny strawmen, dave.
Do you seriously think that the hetero men among us have a problem admitting that we find the female figure attractive? You think that's the problem? Have you spent so much time among Christian fundies, that you think calling out our sexual nature constitutes some kind of 'gotcha' argument?

Sorry to burst your bubble, buddy. It's not.

NO ONE denies that they find the woman figure attractive. What they keep telling you is that there's a BIG AND CRUCIAL difference between thinking boobs are nice, and thinking that the notion of a 74yo man marrying a 15yo girl is OK. And that it should be applauded and "cheered".

And that difference has to do with MORALITY and EMPATHY.

Apparently, you have trouble with both.
In OUR society, don't marry 15 year olds.  It's a bad idea.
Really? It's a "bad idea"? Why, because it's illegal or frowned upon? Is it WRONG or is it not, dave?

Do you seriously think weasel-wording can save you? It never has.
  Don't date them either.  And if you're really feeling holy, stop looking at porn online which probably involves women who are younger than you imagine.  (And stop buying Christmas lights)
Bullshit, dave. Looking at boobs is IN NO WAY equivlent to condoning child marriage (In ANY culture). Trying to claim otherwise only makes you look a fool (as well as a creep).
In our society, in my opinion, a woman should not marry until her early 20s or so.  But in Masai society ... who knows?  I honestly don't understand much about their society yet and neither do you.
IOW, a 15yo marrying an old man is NOT a question of morality for you. Because morality transcends cultures, dave. Again, remember C.S. Lewis?

And besides, you remember the "culture' thing only when it suits you.
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  From reading the article I posted, I have no indication whatsoever that this young woman was being forced against her will to marry that old dude.  Maybe she was in indirect ways ... I don't know.  But women are pretty perceptive - more so than men - and you would think that that woman teacher would have written that paragraph a bit differently if she had detected any problem in this relationship.
Dave, we have given you links to entire ORGANIZATIONS dedicated to fighting that issue. They have personal reports and stories.

But you choose to forget it all or call it "BS" because of the story of one teacher who lived with a Maasai family.

Tell me you're not biased. Go on.
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So chill.
No.
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And quit acting like you're all righteous and I'm some kind of creep.
I'm not "righteous". But you are kind of a creep.
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Or don't ... and continue to reinforce my image of you as self righteous hypocritical bastards.
You think that "your image of us" has any bearing at all, especially after your creepiness was exposed?
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My "woo hoo" was nothing more than an honest admission that MOST MEN would enjoy (1) variety and (2) younger rather than older in their sex life if given the free choice.
Bull.

Fucking.

Shit.

"MOST MEN" have a few neurons to rub together, and realize that the idea of a 74yo man marrying a 15yo girl is NOT "enjoying variety" or merely a reflection of our attraction to young bodies. "MOST MEN" would see it as despicable (yes, in OUR 'culture', which YOU are a part of). "MOST MEN" would not go "woo hoo".
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I think that's the basic problem here is that you guys are not completely honest ... even with yourselves.


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  • Last Edit: November 28, 2017, 08:16:52 AM by Faid
Who even made the rule that we cannot group ducks and fish together for the simple reason that they are both aquatic? If I want to group them that way and it serves my purpose then I can jolly well do it however I want to and it is still a nested hierarchy and you can't tell me that it's not.

Re: Thread for self righteous men
Reply #41
I think we found Faid's hot button ...

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Reply #42
And if we really really really want to get serious about "not exploiting young people" ... let's talk about how SCIENTISTS are poisoning young minds in public schools with "fake science" about how the earth is millions of years old and your uncle is a monkey and we all evolved from pond scum and so on.  Oh and how about vaccinations?  Shooting up babies with a scary cocktail of god-knows-what and LYING to parents telling them it's good for their kids.

Yeah ... let's talk about exploiting people, shall we?
But this is a separate issue from "marrying an old guy" ... you guys have a strange habit of mixing issues ... not sure why you do it, but possibly it's because you see your position is inconsistent and you want to obscure that fact so you dispense a bunch of squid ink to try to hide your true (inconsistent) views.
:rofl:


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  • Last Edit: November 28, 2017, 08:21:27 AM by Faid
Who even made the rule that we cannot group ducks and fish together for the simple reason that they are both aquatic? If I want to group them that way and it serves my purpose then I can jolly well do it however I want to and it is still a nested hierarchy and you can't tell me that it's not.

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Re: Thread for self righteous men
Reply #43
I think we found Faid's hot button ...
"we" ?
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Re: Thread for self righteous men
Reply #44
I think we found Faid's hot button ...
What, child abuse? Yeah, I guess you did.

Internet creeps is another one.
Who even made the rule that we cannot group ducks and fish together for the simple reason that they are both aquatic? If I want to group them that way and it serves my purpose then I can jolly well do it however I want to and it is still a nested hierarchy and you can't tell me that it's not.

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Did Dave just equate evolution with pedophilia? That is a first class glimpse into the the Trump voter's mind.
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Re: Thread for self righteous men
Reply #46
I think we found Faid's hot button ...
"we" ?

One of the symptoms of demon possession is the host will sometimes slip in an unintended plural pronoun when referring to themselves. There are multiple agents working the host's mouth.

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Re: Thread for self righteous men
Reply #47
Bluffy never fails to exemplify the old saying "Give him enough rope and he'll hang himself."
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Are we there yet?

Re: Thread for self righteous men
Reply #48
"Demon possession"

"Evolution = pedophilia"

Lol

What next?

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Re: Thread for self righteous men
Reply #49
Bluffy never fails to exemplify the old saying "Given him enough rope and he'll hang himself."

I warned him. He at least had these revelations somewhat contained in the other thread, but he's so oblivious to what most people see clearly that he really thought starting this thread would somehow vindicate him.