If you want to talk about word definitions, then here's one for you to work on that I think is a lot more interesting and relevant than what you are talking about ... FREEDOMWe in the USA claim to be "the land of the FREE and the home of the brave" ... but are we truly free?Well ... it depends on your definition of "free." I would say we are MORE free than say Jews in Nazi Germany ... I'm glad we are not restricted like they were. Or people today in N. Korea. We certainly have more freedom than they do.But what if we compare ourselves to the people of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy that lived in what we call New England in Benjamin Franklin's day? How does our freedom compare to theirs?Or how about the Wai Wai people who live in the little jungle of village called Masakenari in Konashen District in southern Guyana, S. America? How does our freedom compare to theirs?
Yes, American farming is in big trouble ... has been for decades but I myself didn't realize it until a few years ago ... there IS a solution, I believe, but it's going to require huge mental shifts ... an entirely new way of thinking ... I have finally made the shift myself, but the key to saving farming is to inspire others to make the shift as well ... What "huge mental shift" am I talking about? Well here's a big one ... LAND ... who does it belong to? And what should we do with it? Take my little 10 acres for example ... back before the European conquest, my little 10 acres was used by people we now call Native Americans ... for what I don't know, but perhaps buffalo roamed it. The United States got involved in my little 10 acres in 1803 purchasing it from France for about 47 cents an acre (2016 dollars). I bought it in about 2004 for about $4000 an acre (a problem we can talk about another day). Prior to me purchasing it, the guy I purchased it from used it for row crop farming - corn and soybeans - one of the major types of farming described above that is causing so many suicides. Why was he farming in this way? Well because "it's what's done" that's why. But as we learned from Cinderella recently, "just because it's what's done doesn't mean it's what should be done" right? And I contend that corn and soybean farming is NOT what should be done for a multitude of reasons too numerous to list here. Anyway, in my opinion, what *should* be done with land like mine is *feed people*. Directly. Without banks. Without Monsanto. Without John Deere. Without all that stuff that enslaves farmers and pushes them to commit suicide. That is exactly what I am attempting to do on my little 10 acres. I'm having some success and I'm getting better at it each year. Who'll join me?https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/06/why-are-americas-farmers-killing-themselves-in-record-numbers
Quote from: Dave Hawkins on December 07, 2017, 04:42:41 AMIf you want to talk about word definitions, then here's one for you to work on that I think is a lot more interesting and relevant than what you are talking about ... FREEDOMWe in the USA claim to be "the land of the FREE and the home of the brave" ... but are we truly free?Well ... it depends on your definition of "free." I would say we are MORE free than say Jews in Nazi Germany ... I'm glad we are not restricted like they were. Or people today in N. Korea. We certainly have more freedom than they do.But what if we compare ourselves to the people of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy that lived in what we call New England in Benjamin Franklin's day? How does our freedom compare to theirs?Or how about the Wai Wai people who live in the little jungle of village called Masakenari in Konashen District in southern Guyana, S. America? How does our freedom compare to theirs?Pulling this forward ...
Price ch. 20 ..."If we relate the levels of life of human and domestic animals to the problem of soil depletion, we find two important groups of data. First, there are those which relate to specific land areas, some small and some very large; and second, those which relate to civilizations and groups, both large and small that have passed out of existence or are rapidly deteriorating. A study of the skeletons of the past and present often discloses a progressive breakdown. For example, we may mention the important anthropological findings of Professor Hooton of Harvard, who, in his examinations of various pueblos of the Western Plains, especially at the Pecos Pueblo where the progressive burials have been uncovered, has brought to light the calendar of a civilization extending over a thousand years. These findings show that there has been over the period of years a progressive increase in skeletal deformities, including arthritis and dental caries, together with a reduction in stature, suggesting a direct relationship to progressive depletion of the soil."
Pingu misrepresented my view.
Dave: Bad diet causes bad teeth, e.g. not enough unpasteurised grass-fed milk. Photon: I drank lots of unpasteurised grass-fed milk as a child but I still had bad teeth. Teeth improved when I moved to the city and started brushing and drinking fluoridated water and stopped drinking lots of unpasteurised grass-fed milk.Dave: Your diet as a child must have been bad.Not even circular, just batshit
Your post implied that my view is that not enough unpasteurized grass-fed milk will cause bad teeth. But that's not my view. And that's not prices View. I'm using Siri and I don't know why it doesn't capitalize price and it does capitalize View. Anyway prices view is that nutrition needs to be adequate in order to have good teeth and it can be many different types of foods that Supply adequate nutrition as he explained in his book.
Bad diet causes bad teeth, e.g. [=FOR EXAMPLE] not enough unpasteurised grass-fed milk.
Dave, why is it impossible for you to consider the possibility that Price got certain things wrong?
Ok Pingu ... whatever ...
Quote from: BenTheBiased on December 07, 2017, 07:46:42 AMDave, why is it impossible for you to consider the possibility that Price got certain things wrong?Oh I have no problem considering the possibility ...
if his diet was truly what he says it was, then I can only guess that the animals on his farm were raised on depleted ground...
Did you not know that "e.g." means "for example"?
Very next paragraph ..."In a recent magazine article, I have presented data (1) comparing the mineral content of different pasture grasses, and relating these to deficiencies in cattle. Unfortunately, space does not permit reviewing these data here in detail. They show that calcium varied from 0.17 per cent for a dry pasture grass in Arizona to 1.9 per cent in a Pennsylvania pasturage plant, to 2 per cent in a British Columbia pasturage plant, a range of over ten fold. Similarly, phosphorus was shown to vary from 0.03 per cent to 1.8 per cent, a range of sixty fold. Neither pasture animals nor human beings can eat a sufficient amount of low mineral plant food to provide the total mineral requirements of ordinary metabolism. In cases of overload, such as pregnancy and lactation in adults, and rapid growth in children, the demand is increased greatly. For example, a high-milk-production cow from southern Texas on a certain low mineral pasture will run behind her normal requirements about 60 grams of phosphorus and 160 grams of potassium per day. In that district large numbers of cattle were unable at the time to maintain their own bodies, let alone reproduce or provide milk. Many cattle in the district developed loin disease. It was found that moving them to another plot of ground where the soil was not depleted provided recovery."