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goddammit, that thread never shows up when I click new posts so I totally missed all that.
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Those SJWs are out of control, man: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/04/19/syracuse-suspends-engineering-fraternity-for-racist-anti-semitic-homophobic-video/

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"Do you know what you signed up for today?" a fraternity member says in the video as he stands in front of a young man kneeling on the floor.

The young man on his knees then proceeds to make sexually explicit gestures as laughter erupts around him. Asked to recite "the oath," he says: "f‑‑‑ black people" and uses a racial slur to describe a person of Hispanic descent.

"I solemnly swear," he says, repeating after the standing fraternity member, "to always have hatred in my heart for ..." He then says several racial slurs to describe African Americans, Hispanics and Jews.

The six-minute video was originally posted on a secret Facebook group associated with Theta Tau, an engineering fraternity at Syracuse University, according to the Daily Orange, the student newspaper, which made the video public on Wednesday.
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Turns out they had a recent post, which pretty much reiterated that point:

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At FIRE, we classify colleges that outright state in their policies that they place other values above free expression as "warning" institutions in our Spotlight database, meaning that students should be warned beforehand that they won't possess the same free speech rights as their peers at public institutions or other private institutions that explicitly promise free speech rights. As our database explains, "FIRE believes that free speech is not only a moral imperative, but also an essential element of a college education. However, private universities are just that--private associations--and as such, they possess their own right to free association, which allows them to prioritize other values above the right to free speech if they wish to do so."

Although oddly enough, Liberty doesn't make the list at all. BYU does, with a "does not promise free speech" warning (and pretty much no articles since 2013).

I get the argument, but I don't really buy it. They complain an awful lot about what some private schools do, but I'm not convinced they would stop if those schools suddenly changed their mission statements and scrubbed all references to The Almighty Discourse and free speech. And if limiting speech really is so dangerous and detrimental, why should it matter what a school's values and mission statement are?

Plus, all those private schools that "prioritize other values" still get plenty of government funding, so shouldn't we also care about them?
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For the whoopsiedoodle file:

Dad shoots and kills suspected truck thief who was actually his own 13 year old son
https://nypost.com/2018/04/10/dad-fatally-shoots-son-after-mistaking-him-for-truck-thief-cops/

Toddler shoots pregnant mom with dad's gun in parking lot
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/toddler-shoots-mom-indiana_us_5ad7696ae4b029ebe0204cda
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Finally got around to reading this piece:
https://splinternews.com/the-long-lucrative-right-wing-grift-is-blowing-up-in-t-1793944216

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Because there was a lot of money in it for various hucksters and moguls and authors and politicians, the conservative movement spent decades building up an entire sector of the economy dedicated to scaring and lying to older white men. For millions of members of that demographic, this parallel media dedicated to lying to them has totally supplanted the "mainstream" media. Now they, and we, are at the mercy of the results of that project. The inmates are running the asylum, if there is a kind of asylum that takes in many mostly sane people and then gradually, over many years, drives one subset of its inmates insane, and also this asylum has the largest military in the world.

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But if this was a reasonably useful arrangement for Republicans, who won a couple close elections with the help of their army of riled-up kooks, it was a fantastic deal for the real engine of the right-wing propaganda machine: companies selling newly patented drugs designed to treat the various conditions of old age, authors of dubious investing newsletters, sellers of survival seeds, hawkers of poorly written conservative books, and a whole array of similar con artists and ethically compromised corporations and financial institutions. The original strategy behind demonizing the "mainstream media" may have purely political, to steer voters away from outlets that tended to present information damaging to the conservative cause, but the creation of the conservative media was also a revenue opportunity for shameless grifters from the very start, as Rick Perlstein showed in his classic Baffler piece on the snake oil-salesmen of the right.

The bottom-feeding amorality of the sorts of people who sponsored the right-wing press, and the crummy nature of the products and services sold, shows exactly who was supposed to be consuming it: suckers. Or, more specifically, trusting retirees, with a bit of disposable income, and a natural inclination to hate modernity and change--an inclination that could be heightened, radicalized, and exploited.

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Rather rapidly, two things happened: First, Republicans realized they'd radicalized their base to a point where nothing they did in power could satisfy their most fervent constituents. Then--in a much more consequential development--a large portion of the Republican Congressional caucus became people who themselves consume garbage conservative media, and nothing else.

That, broadly, explains the dysfunction of the Obama era, post-Tea Party freakout. Congressional Republicans went from people who were able to turn their bullshit-hose on their constituents, in order to rile them up, to people who pointed it directly at themselves, mouths open.

Now, we have a president whose media diet defines his worldview, interests, and priorities. He is not one of the men, like most of those Tea Party members of Congress, whose existing worldview determined his media diet--who sealed himself off from disagreeable media sources. He is, in fact, something far more dangerous: a confused old man who believes what the TV tells him.

:thisisfine:
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Calamari Jr

hahahahahahahahahahaha

lolololol

That's what I'd expect a mafia henchman on the Simpsons to be called.
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There seems to be a machine in this country somewhere that turns out angry hobbits dressed in vestments.

:sadyes:

That's part of why I appreciate Francis a lot more. Because he surprises me by not being a fucking asshole sometimes.

I think the CC could be so much nicer. I think it would be so much better for them: both priests and believers could be so much happier if they could just focus on the joys of faith rather than on areas that clearly conflict with the modern ethos as most people, in this country at least, see it.

Yup.

I am not so much cynical as I am frustrated, I think. That should absolutely not blind me to what is good and nice and so on, I totally agree with you there. But on the other hand, it is not like THAT much is being asked of these guys either. No-one is asking them to stop believing in God, or to believe that God wants them to live a certain way. It would just be nice if they could stop being jerks in the name of their religion to other people. And sometimes it feels a little bit like they get a round of applause whenever they almost completely fail to be a jerk to other people.

I get what you mean. I'm certainly not a fan of the Catholic Church, and, yeah, it is a low bar to clear. But to me, these little signs of actual Christian compassion make me feel like maybe the entire enterprise isn't 100% awful if someone can get a little bit of comfort out of it. I don't know. It's hard to explain.
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If I had to bet, I'd say it's probably relevant but maybe not as overwhelmingly awful as some of the other things these clowns have been doing.
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Yeah, that happened about *checks watch* 5 years ago, I think. Got immediately buried in all of the subsequent avalanches of horseshit, and it's so deep in there that I completely forgot about it until you posted that link.
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"Did you know transphobes can be compassionate to cis kids?" isn't exactly mind-blowing either.

Why are you assuming the 6 year old is cis? Isn't that a bit presumptuous of you?

Also it was a bit surprising to me that he would tell a child that God wouldn't reject an atheist if they were a good person. I wouldn't have expected that from any of the other popes.

You are welcome. Any other heart-warming moments you want me to drizzle grey disapproval over while I am here?

If only everyone were totally woke and not problematic, then we might actually be able to briefly take comfort in another person's act of kindness every so often instead of being bitter fucking cynical shells of human beings 24 hours a day.
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It's very nice of you all to take a minute and reject the idea of appreciating a kind and compassionate act for a crying 6 year old child to ask the really tough questions like, "Did you know the Pope is still Catholic?". Wow, I mean, my mind is fucking blown.
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And it's not just because he's my fellow countryman and because his Argentinianized Italian is fun to listen to:



 :crai:  :crai:

A summary of what was said:
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"If only we could all cry like Emanuele when we have an ache in our hearts like he has," the pope told the children. "He was crying for his father and had the courage to do it in front of us because in his heart there is love for his father."

Pope Francis said he had asked Emanuele if he could share the boy's question and the boy agreed. "'A little while ago my father passed away. He was a nonbeliever, but he had all four of his children baptized. He was a good man. Is dad in heaven?'"

"How beautiful to hear a son say of his father, 'He was good,'" the pope told the children. "And what a beautiful witness of a son who inherited the strength of his father, who had the courage to cry in front of all of us. If that man was able to make his children like that, then it's true, he was a good man. He was a good man.

"That man did not have the gift of faith, he wasn't a believer, but he had his children baptized. He had a good heart," Pope Francis said.

"God is the one who says who goes to heaven," the pope explained.

The next step in answering Emanuele's question, he said, would be to think about what God is like and, especially, what kind of heart God has. "What do you think? A father's heart. God has a dad's heart. And with a dad who was not a believer, but who baptized his children and gave them that bravura, do you think God would be able to leave him far from himself?"

"Does God abandon his children?" the pope asked. "Does God abandon his children when they are good?"

The children shouted, "No."

"There, Emanuele, that is the answer," the pope told the boy. "God surely was proud of your father, because it is easier as a believer to baptize your children than to baptize them when you are not a believer. Surely this pleased God very much."

Pope Francis encouraged Emanuele to "talk to your dad; pray to your dad."
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ummm

Wouldn't that mean there's no actual attorney-client relationship and no basis for a claim of privilege?
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How can the pee tape be anything other than real?

just saying
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If I ever end up in court, I want my lawyer to cite a case that actively works against the point they're making and I want my lawyer to respond to the court's demands with, "My client doesn't feel like doing that."
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lol, that makes me recall the earlier report that he tried to blend in with the drapes.

Yeah, I had heard that story before and it was cringeworthy/funny/kind of sad. Also had heard his account of Trump asking for loyalty, Comey saying he can promise honesty, Trump countering with "honest loyalty," and Comey caving in and agreeing. And then saying, "He is a good man" of Flynn when Trump was trying to get him to drop the investigation.

I had heard all that before, but hearing it all at the same time made it all sound so fucking pathetic. In the interview, he said something like "maybe I didn't have the guts to say more" about the one-on-one dinner he had with Trump, and it's like YEAH, BUDDY, YOU THINK?

I absolutely empathize with people who want to avoid conflict and want to pick their words very carefully and not be too forceful about things because lol hello I have a uterus and have been taught to act this way for literally my entire life, often as a self-defense mechanism against angry men, but this ridiculously tall man was the head of the goddamn FBI, and he turned into a shrinking violet in front of Donald Jfucking Trump.

lol
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Watched some of the Comey interview with Stephanopoulos, and the biggest take away for me was that the former FBI Director is literally just as conflict avoidant as I am, and that is actually pretty terrible.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Removing Assad
am i the only one who has no idea what to make of any of this shit or any sense of which of the many bad options is solidly the least bad?
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Anethesia lecturer was talking about the Pin Index Safety System, "which is abbreviated P-I-S-S."

 :doglaugh: