https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwChk4S99i4

https://xkcd.com/1901/

I'm curious if you're ever going to acknowledge you were wrong about this. 

http://volkov.oce.orst.edu/tides/

I'm curious if you're ever going to acknowledge you were wrong about this. 

http://volkov.oce.orst.edu/tides/

I guess that's your way of saying "no, I will never acknowledge I was wrong"?

I'm curious if you're ever going to acknowledge you were wrong about this. 

http://volkov.oce.orst.edu/tides/

I guess that's your way of saying "no, I will never acknowledge I was wrong"?

Where's the fun in that?

I don't even remember what he is talking about.  I think it was his claim/belief that there actually are supersonic tide waves following the moon or something.

In any case, the tides don't give a shit.

the old and the new

 

The twin bulges do not "actually exist", which is obvious from the actual data, the TOPEX observations, and the advanced models (the output in the daily animation is model data, based on observations).

That anyone can't grasp this, after all this time, is a  bit hard to believe.

The fact that the bulge theory more nearly describes the forcing function rather than the resulting geometry (due to resonance and speed of waves in an ocean of finite depth) seems like a relatively simple concept that's missed by the world's foremost expert on tides.

http://talkrational.org/archive/showpost.php?p=1723836&postcount=175

Man do you have that right.

The twin bulges do not "actually exist", which is obvious from the actual data, the TOPEX observations, and the advanced models (the output in the daily animation is model data, based on observations).

That anyone can't grasp this, after all this time, is a  bit hard to believe.

Sure is.

The moon causes the tides and the bulges are real!  And the Earth rotates under these bulges at about 1,000 mph!  That'll outrun even the largest, deep tsunami.

The fact that the bulge theory more nearly describes the forcing function rather than the resulting geometry (due to resonance and speed of waves in an ocean of finite depth) seems like a relatively simple concept that's missed by the world's foremost expert on tides.

http://talkrational.org/archive/showpost.php?p=1723836&postcount=175

FX, it's been literal years. Are you seriously going to keep on bringing this up without once learning the actual basis of the discussion - wave theory?

Think of a guitar string.  Very taut, waves propagate at a high speed.  The string itself does not.

Because we now have excellent data and models, the actual tides can be "observed" by looking at a 24 hour animation of the real world oceans.

The difference between the quarter moon and new moon is obvious and clear.  Just as the lack of two bulges following the moon shows up, when we look at the actual real world.

Last quarter vs new moon