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OK, forced behavioral changes and actions in recent days have made Alzheimers advance rapidly. Get ready.
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It is always a kick to see one of the folks here refer back to my earlier posts.
On that page I posted:
"What intrigues me about the astral/quantum world is that everything is upside down.
Not that what was black is now white. But that it is now black and white.
And even that is not correct because that is just how we would put it from the physical level. That is not what it is unto itself.
So to understand that, we would have to put aside all our current conceptions.
Including putting aside all our conceptions of who we are (what we are)."

Thanks man, that was even funnier!
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https://ac.els-cdn.com/S0012160696900329/1-s2.0-S0012160696900329-main.pdf?_tid=5b6efc74-268d-4a58-b0da-011b90c5b142&acdnat=1529591046_4633f6b81f6d440cd2ed8bf395fa22f5
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A new and more robust evolutionary synthesis is emerging that attempts to explain macroevolution as well as microevolutionary events. This new synthesis emphasizes three morphological areas of biology that had been marginalized by the Modern Synthesis of genetics and evolution: embryology, macroevolution, and homology. The foundations for this new synthesis have been provided by new findings from developmental genetics and from the reinterpretation of the fossil record. In this nascent synthesis, macroevolutionary questions are not seen as being soluble by population genetics, and the developmental actions of genes involved with growth and cell specification are seen as being critical for the formation of higher taxa. In addition to discovering the remarkable homologies of homeobox genes and their domains of expression, developmental genetics has recently proposed homologies of process that supplement the older homologies of structure. Homologous developmental pathways, such those involving thewntgenes, are seen in numerous embryonic processes, and they are seen occurring in discrete regions, the morphogenetic fields. These fields (which exemplify the modular nature of developing embryos) are proposed to mediate between genotype and phenotype. Just as the cell (and not its genome) functions as the unit of organic structure and function, so the morphogenetic field (and not the genes or the cells) is seen as a major unit of ontogeny whose changes bring about changes in evolution.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphogenetic_field
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By the 1930s, however, the work of geneticists, especially Thomas Hunt Morgan, revealed the importance of chromosomes and genes for controlling development, and the rise of the new synthesis in evolutionary biology lessened the perceived importance of the field hypothesis. Morgan was a particularly harsh critic of fields since the gene and the field were perceived as competitors for recognition as the basic unit of ontogeny.[3] With the discovery and mapping of master control genes, such as the homeobox genes the pre-eminence of genes seemed assured. But in the late twentieth century the field concept was "rediscovered" as a useful part of developmental biology. It was found, for example, that different mutations could cause the same malformations, suggesting that the mutations were affecting a complex of structures as a unit, a unit that might correspond to the field of early 20th century embryology.


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Just as the cell (and not its genome) functions as the unit of organic structure and function, so the morphogenetic field (and not the genes or the cells) is seen as a major unit of ontogeny whose changes bring about changes in evolution.
By acknowledging the morphogenetic field we are looking at the fundamental driver of "evolution".
This is where we left off.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Canada legalizes?
Last post by borealis -
Come for the multibillion dollar corporate marijuana growers about to corner the global market and develop cannabis whisky, stay for the stunning pics of massive all white greenhouses.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/06/canada-marijuana-justin-trudeau-jeff-sessions-trump-canopy-pot/
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I'll Grant you I first learned about them from icr.

Well, for some value of "learned" I guess.  You certainly read about them there.  But not even ICR bothers to point out that there are allegedly TWO of these extraordinary pancakes, probably because they hope the punters won't read both articles and notice that they are talking about two quite different strata.

But I learned the specifics of the layer that I'm now interested in - the cambrian basal sandstone - from various mainstream articles on the internet presumably based on geological texts. 

And the "specifics" as you call them don't actually support ICR's claim. And ICR knows this too. So they accuse the geologists of being "provincial". Which is obvious bullshit.  If geologists were "provincial", there would be no talk of Cambrian or Ordovician or Silurian etc layers, no talk of mega sequences, no maps of the N.American craton - the very ones you posted.

So stop dispensing squid ink and schaff and flares and deal with what I've actually posted.

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Coward.
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if they were not being provincial, then they would give the single basal sandstone layer a single name instead of 20 different names.

There is no single layer. Your spectacular failure to produce any evidence for your claim is obvious.

Afdave's Third Law
: If you have an objection to any point I've raised, I've already addressed it. No, I won't tell you where.
You don't have to call it a "single layer" if you don't want to.

However ...

You cannot escape the facts that ...

1) "Cambrian" sandstone lies atop "Pre-Cambrian" basement rock in much of N. America
2) This sandstone (whether multiple layers or a single layer) varies in thickness from approx 100 ft to 2000 ft
3) Nothing I've read indicates that there is any definitive demarcation between say the "Lamotte" sandstone and the "Mt. Simon" sandstone.  It's certainly not state lines as Voxrat pointed out.  It's not gremlins with swords.

So that's the data that we have ... the question is ... what do we make of it?
4) This sandstone contains no remains of 'billionzodeadthings'

What do we make of that, Dave?
That's a great question.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Krauthammer
Last post by brugroffil -
I'm glad this particular ghoul is dead
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I would support one mile of dumb ass wall solely so it could be symbolically be torn down
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It is always a kick to see one of the folks here refer back to my earlier posts.
On that page I posted:
"What intrigues me about the astral/quantum world is that everything is upside down.
Not that what was black is now white. But that it is now black and white.
And even that is not correct because that is just how we would put it from the physical level. That is not what it is unto itself.
So to understand that, we would have to put aside all our current conceptions.
Including putting aside all our conceptions of who we are (what we are)."