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What if able bodied citizens rather create Google or find a cure for cancer instead of tending to animals and farming

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In other news. Everyone talks about how great at basketball Lebron James is.

Now imagine for a moment that madmardigan is as great as Lebron James.
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We talk about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness here in the USA, and many other countries talk about that too.

But may I suggest that we really don't have that here in the USA? Well we do, but only to a limited degree.

Imagine for a moment if Donald Trump somehow became dictator but he turned out to be a good one and he issued the following decree...

"Hear ye! Hear ye! Effective immediately, every American citizen will be issued 3 acres of pasture and 2 Acres of woodland plus 2 dairy goats or sheep per acre plus 20 chickens per acre plus one hog per acre to provide basic food for yourselves and your families.  The only requirement for you to keep the land under your stewardship is to produce food faithfully every year for yourself and for your family. Myself and Melania and every other government employee will be subject to this new decree. So let it be written! So let it be done!"

Doesn't sound like freedom to me.
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For Reference:

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The sky is blue

As we can see from the reference, the sky is not blue.

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So, socrates, which stage are you in?
The tertiary stage of syphilis
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I plan to buy more sheep this year. They really have turned out to be as good as I expected them to be. I have a total of 20 acres available to me of which 14 is pasture. 8 of it will be improved productive pasture by the time I received my new sheep. The other 6 will have never been grazed before so not very productive.  I'm starting to keep my eyes open for a 40 acre or larger tract that I can lease or purchase.

And when I do that it always makes me think of land and how ridiculous it is that we have to pay money in order to use land. This was a completely foreign concept to the Native Americans.

I could understand paying money for using land which nobody else wants to use for their own personal food production. That I could understand.  But having to buy three or four acres per person in your family just so you have enough to produce your own food is really stupid.

But, like it or not, that's where we are at in this country today.  I'm talking about the USA. If I really want to live somewhere that I don't have to pay for land, I suppose I could go live in southern Guyana with the Wai Wai people. I'm not ready to do that yet, so here I am.

So ...

Land in my area goes for $3,000 per acre and up. A 30 year mortgage payment on a $3,000 acre of land at a low interest rate would run you about $168 per year.

So my question is... Can sheep fund land purchases in the $3,000 per acre price range?  And I think the answer is yes.

Net profit per ewe is about $270 per year but what I don't know is how many ewes per acre you can stock. I'm going to say two for now for planning purposes as long as the pasture has been improved. So that would be a net profit of $540 per acre which is well above the $168 annual mortgage payment.

So that's where my brains at. Aren't you glad to know that?

So you'd have no problem with people coming onto "your" land doing with it as they please?
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
Marrying a narcissistic asshole for his money turns out to not be a recipe for happiness. Who knew?

You get what you're paid for!
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
She literally looks like she threw up in her mouth a little bit
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So the evidence indicates there was a migration of L3 into Africa which accounts for the presence of L3 in Africa. But what are we to make of the other L haplogroups in Africa?
I have proposed that they evolved from L3. That the differences between for example L3 and L4 developed in a progression from L3 to L4.
What is the evidence on behalf of and against this proposal?
The first thing is to see what would be involved in this scenario.
The first thing is to determine the changes that would be involved:
As far as I can see the changes from L3 to L4 are:
 G769A  G1018A  T16311C
This is not rocket science. It is just a matter of determining what this scenario would be like.

As usual VoxRat is intimating something. Perhaps someday he will let us know.
Anybody else?
 
I have listed the differences between L3 and L4. In the scenario I am analyzing those are the changes that would occur in an evolution from L3 to L4. That is after L3 migrated into Africa (in the Ethiopia area). A migration hypothesized in the passages I quoted above.
To use a formulation that you folks would prefer I have listed the changes between L3 and the common ancestor of L3 and L4.
For reference:


Notice the line that runs from L3 down southward in Africa. That is the line I am referring to.
And to get to the point where L4 branches off that southward line you have the changes I listed.
But if anyone thinks that would be a different set of changes, please let us know and explain why you think that.
And as I see it, the following would be the changes to get to the point where L6 branches off that southward line:
C3594T  C7256T  C13650T  C16278T
So if people see what I am getting at (it is not that difficult) then this is the scenario if L3 migrated into Africa (Ethiopia area)* and gave rise to the other L haplogroups. We can look at the dating shortly.


* as the quotes I gave proposed

Look at the parsimony instead.
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In a thousand millennia when the Nebulon Federation finally convicts sentient sapient Hillary Rodham Clinton will Dave finally get to say, "See! Sundance was right!"
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I'm guessing after trump is out of office
That's the thing with people like dave. Literally nothing can prove them wrong.

If no "heads roll", and Obama and Hillary don't go to jail, it's because the Deep State was too deep, and the Swamp too swampy, and Trump couldn't fight it though he tried gallantly. If heads start rolling on the other side, with evidence of collusion and indictments, It's all a conspiracy of the aforementioned Deep State and Trump is the hero fighting the Beast against the odds. Even if it's Trump himself that gets indicted or resigns, that makes him not just a hero, but a martyr. And so on.
:sadyes:

This is a guy who thinks that anyone who doubts the earth is < 10000 years old is indescribably stupid and "hilariously out to lunch". If nothing has changed his mind on that in all the years he's had his nose rubbed in the evidence, I doubt there's anything that make him doubt his RWNJ puppet masters.   He still thinks it's a "viable scientific hypothesis" that Clinton and Podesta were running a child sex slavery operation out of the basement of a DC pizzeria with no basement.

FIFY
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We return therefore to the question of what mutation rate
to use in analyses of human demographic evolution.
Figure 1 provides a weak indication that methods sensitive
to older mutation eventstend to yield higher estimates, but
thisissomewhat confounded with potential downward bias
in whole-genome estimates from family sequencing.
Branch length comparisons within the apes provide no
support for a substantial human-specific slowdown [41
].
It may be that future developments will reveal recent
modest changes in mutation rate, perhaps differing between
modern human populations [78,31], driven by evolution
in one or more of the factors discussed here, and
possibly more substantial differences in other hominins if
data become available. Pending such refinements however,
a reasonable (and conservative) approach is to apply a
yearly mutation rate of 0.5 x 10-9 bp-1 year-1 uniformly
to analyses of demographic events within or between
human populations, including between modern and archaic
humans.
I would understand that this does not apply to the dating of sites, volcanic rock etc.


Wow nothing gets by you Professor!
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Huh?
Don't you worry your little head over it, dave.

Have you figured out yet that "Peoples_Pundit" lied to you?
That you're rebroadcasting Fake News like the useful idiot that you are?
no. It appears to me that Trump and Fox News have been pretty much right all along.
pretty much right...about what?
Dave?
The Negro Boogeyman strikes again!
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Socrates you've developed 2 theories that would warrant Nobel prizes. Why are you so reluctant to write up your research and claim them??

Are you allergic to Nobel prizes or something?
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I am in fact a scientist and understand evolution better than most folks here. But not worth arguing. Just another silly slur from you folks.

Ok this has to be some kind of performance art.
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I wonder if Bezos or Branson would accept TLAR as evidence to support this expedition.
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In any case, the fact remains that RAFH'S questions this morning are interesting to me and they are good questions.

One question he asked was who will take care of the animal operation here in Missouri while I am off in Guyana? Lots of possibilities for that given that it's really easy to maintain, but here's one really radical possibility that would be a real hoot if I could pull it off.

Increase the size of the flock to say 20 Dairy goats and 20 sheep, or maybe even 50 and 50.  Announce a  Guinness Book of World Records Expedition with the goal of being the longest ever overland round trip with a flock of sheep and goats with the goal being travel on foot with the sheep and goats all the way from my location to the village in southern Guyana.

Over land.

On foot.

Maybe it would be better with all Dairy goats and no sheep because then you would have excess food on a daily basis to trade for other food items all along the way and then when you arrived in Guyana, you could trade some of the goats for sheep for your starter flock.

I think the only way this would work would be to publicize it heavily so that you could get cooperation from local authorities in the various countries, not to mention cooperation from landowners to allow the flocks to graze along the way. And even then it might be impossible without some big name sponsor like Jeff Bezos or Richard Branson.

Go for it! Have fun in Darien!
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Aren't slightly creaky old ladies with long grey hair PBS's target audience?
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Honestly, Dave, the most burning questions are the ones I don't even know how to ask - or more likely, don't even know to ask. I doubt you could answer them. How do you ask a fish about the sea? On the flipside, how does a fish ask you about the land?

The only route I can take is to point out where I find your mindset not just wrong - that's normal - but incoherent. To take the little grips I can find, wherever I can, not hoping for one big breakthrough. Because the places where I find your mindset incoherent are the places that signal an unresolvable values clash.

So I'll ask you one of those "grips": do you know what happened when the British introduced rabbits to Australia?
Yes but why is that relevant to my goat and Sheep Project in Guyana?

Replace goats and sheep with rabbits and Guyana with Australia and maybe you'll see why it's relevant to think about.
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Following "socrates'" threads over the years I've come to suspect that deep down, he's a baraminologist (God created kinds which are allowed to change into the type they were meant to become). Of course, he knows that around here, he can't come out as such. So he throws in some sound bites like "branching off" and drags in some papers he doesn't understand to make a point because he thinks that's what everyone in the field does.

You're giving him too much credit.

He's a child who looks at a picture book and sees two things that look alike and thinks, "hey one came from the other!" No matter if the 2 things are pterosaurs and birds, reptile and mammal, cats and dogs or orangutans and Chinese people.
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And in the consensus theory what is picked up from the common ancestor is not attributed to Neanderthal. Is that also clear?
They only attribute to the Neanderthal what evolved on the Neanderthal line after the Neanderthal branched from the common ancestor (1-4%).
Is that clear? Or do you need VoxRat to say that he knew that all along and everybody else knew it all along?
Well it seems that nobody understands this or are pretending not to understand it. Stage 1 is tedious.
I have said a few times that the only way out of Stage 1 is for someone to be honest.
I can help. In the consensus theory what is picked up from the common ancestor is not attributed to Neanderthal because it is attributed to the claimed African ancestor.
Of course it could just as easily be attributed to Neanderthal. Right?
Worth repeating.
I see a problem in the vocabulary that the researchers use. It is biased.
They talk about a common ancestor of humans and Neanderthals. That is only true if humans evolved from a lineage in Africa.
The alternative is that there was a common ancestor branching that led on one branch to Neanderthals and on the other branch to a lineage in Africa that went extinct.

I expect that everyone understands this.
But perhaps some people do not understand it.
The alternative is that there was a common ancestor branching that led on one branch to Neanderthals and on the other branch to a lineage in Africa that went extinct.
And in fact, the branch in Africa (such as homo heidelbergenis, or homo Homo rhodesiensis etc) did in fact go extinct.
And there is no actual agreed upon connection between them and humans. Right?

They share a common ancestor more recent than they do with chimpanzees or pineapples. Other than that, what do you mean by connection?

(My bet... you'll never tell!)
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And in the consensus theory what is picked up from the common ancestor is not attributed to Neanderthal. Is that also clear?
They only attribute to the Neanderthal what evolved on the Neanderthal line after the Neanderthal branched from the common ancestor (1-4%).
Is that clear? Or do you need VoxRat to say that he knew that all along and everybody else knew it all along?
Well it seems that nobody understands this or are pretending not to understand it. Stage 1 is tedious.
I have said a few times that the only way out of Stage 1 is for someone to be honest.
I can help. In the consensus theory what is picked up from the common ancestor is not attributed to Neanderthal because it is attributed to the claimed African ancestor.
Of course it could just as easily be attributed to Neanderthal. Right?
Worth repeating.
I see a problem in the vocabulary that the researchers use. It is biased.
They talk about a common ancestor of humans and Neanderthals. That is only true if humans evolved from a lineage in Africa.
The alternative is that there was a common ancestor branching that led on one branch to Neanderthals and on the other branch to a lineage in Africa that went extinct.


Nope. "They" would use the same vocabulary no matter where humans evolved.
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One day Socrates might realize why nobody can give him a precise lineage.

Today is not that day.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
In reality it was the Vaporub in his eyes that made him cry.
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"Get her" for what, Dave?

What is she doing that makes her "an ass"?
For one thing, saying I would be a menace in spite of the fact that she knows that the village leaders have requested help from me.
Borealis does not know that the village leaders have requested help from you. What she does know is you have claimed that the village leaders have requested help from you. However, you have negative credibility on most subjects and issues and are well known for enhancing your views and claims. If you want Borealis and anybody else here to know the village leaders have requested your help, then post the email or a photo of the letter in which they did so. Or a recording of the telephone call. Yeah, that might be cumbersome but it's what it would take, barring someone with far more credibility than you witnessed the phone call or a face to face meeting.

Those points, yes. Also, we don't know what Dave told the village leaders regarding what he could do. We don't know what Dave told them about feeding goats, whether he even talked about pasture or emphasised their tree eating abilities or what. We don't know how much of their positive response was being polite to an American friend. We don't know much at all about their interaction and whether Dave offered and they said sure that's a nice offer or they actually said sure bring us some milk goats at least the younger kids can drink it  or they said bring us female goats so we can raise meat goats. So.
ME: Do the people like to drink milk?

THE CHIEF: Yes bring prenty we want to dos kine drink okwe  we want to drink like morning time  ok bring it when you coming ok
Lol I can see how someone with your condition might interpret that exchange.