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Can't wait to get Australian citizenship so I can chain myself to a Tasmanian tree without the risk of getting kicked out:
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According to Strie [a German born forestry engineer, ecological forester and president of Timber Workers for Forests who used to work for Forestry Tasmania until he left in disgust; Resi] this mismanagement has cost Tasmanian ecosystems greatly: for one thing, he says, the loss of diverse forests has impacted rainfall in a region where many believe climate change has already led to longer and more intense droughts.

"Today [June 1st] we learned from the weather bureau that the North East third of Tasmania only had between 10 percent to 20 percent of the monthly rainfall. However as we know from other regions of massive climate change events, when the heavy rain returns it will fall on a reduced landscape surface area, thus the runoff is rapid and will erode more and more land, valuable soil and nutrients get transferred from the upper catchments downstream and they ultimately end in the estuaries of the island and the sea," Strie explains. In addition, he adds that there is a "major direct impact on the hydrology of streams and rivers."
https://news.mongabay.com/2009/07/a-tasmanian-tragedy-how-the-forestry-industry-has-torn-an-island-apart/

ETA: He is talking about the unique Tasmanian temperate rainforest.
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This is happening in Australia's neighbour country where Australian possums have been imported for their fluffy coat:

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Possums have a significant impact on many of New Zealand's natural ecosystems. They occur in high numbers and their own predators, such as feral cats, do not have much effect on controlling possum population size.

Leaves are the main part of their diet, but possums are opportunistic omnivores. They eat buds, flowers, fruit/berries and nectar, which means they compete with native birds and reptiles for food sources. The growth and life-cycle of a tree or plant is significantly affected when all parts of it are eaten. Possums also have 'favourites' such as rātā or kamahi trees, leading to an even greater impact on these species.

In 1993, possums were filmed eating the eggs and chicks of kōkako and this evidence changed many people's views of their threat to wildlife. They eat invertebrates, including weta, and are significant predators of New Zealand land snails such as Powelliphanta. They often occupy holes in tree trunks for their nests which would otherwise be used by nesting birds such as kākāriki and saddlebacks.

Dairy and deer farmers have the added worry of possums spreading bovine tuberculosis. The value of economic loss in primary production for damage and control of possums is in the tens of millions.

Evidence shows stoats and possums are eating kea. Researchers using nest-cameras have witnessed the gruesome reality inside defenceless kea nests invaded by stoats and possums in South Westland.
https://www.doc.govt.nz/nature/pests-and-threats/animal-pests/possums/

Last time I was there the government sent their army in a desperate bid to decimate the pest.

(By the way, the Moa birds were killed off by the Maori.)
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"You'll get the Nobel pee prize ..." :rofl:
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Nah. Give him a pass just like we gave Hillary!
Dave, far from giving Hillary a pass, you keep banging on about her emails. I bet deep down you think she should go to prison for that, actual written laws or not. If it turned out that not only did she use a private server, but she got donations for her campaign from a foreign power you would organise a lynch mob.
So what about Trump - would you condemn him or shrug it off?
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Borealis wants to garden and she thinks I'm weird for wanting to live primarily on milk and meat and eggs.

Fine.

I will take half the 100 people on our 1000-acre Island Experiment into my tribe and you take the other half into your tribe. You feed your tribe your way and I will feed my tribe my way and we'll see who is healthier and who has more time on their hands for non-subsistence type pursuits such as arts and crafts and sciences.
Dave, you do realise that nowadays, "scientist" doesn't mean a lonely person with a little microscope and a set of test tubes working in their dusty study?
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The Darkest Hour; we were hugely impressed by Gary Oldman's performance. But was Churchill really a doddering, senile old geezer?
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They knew there was an extensive island chain to the north. How far is a different matter, though they could have had some rough information from other island groups to the west and even some east of Tahiti and by triangulation, some very rough idea. Also they knew the approximate length of the Hawaiian chain, Big Island to Kure Island.
How did they know these things?
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Not in terms of miles but angle and travel time. It is over 1500 miles and even the primary group of significant islands is 400 miles long. The Polynesian and Micronesian  navigators were pretty savvy, they read the waves from all directions, the winds, debris in the water, what kind of birds and fish were seen, the clouds, the sun and moon and stars. It is not precised in one could figure the exact course one would set and off you go. More, there's something over that way, it's a big or little something. We'll know more as we get closer and adjust course. Reiteratively.
I visited a museum in Honolulu on my last trip there that had a lot of information on this. It just never ceases to astonish me.
They knew the stars and had given them names, often associated with the island chain and in some cases, the actual island that they crossed over. That established a rough but very useful map of latitude. They also knew the path of the sun throughout the year and I believe they had coordinated that with the stars and the seasons, ie - when it's hottest, the sun is very high in the sky and lies on the arc of {insert island name}. They recorded, either orally or by their cord and bead and shell charts, the travel times between islands and island groups and had coordinated those times to the seasons and therefore to the sun angle and weather. Which leads to the winds, they knew the winds that were common to various times of the year. And had correlated all that to the waves, which direction, what period, size and speed. The wind is the primary source of waves, but waves bounce, they reflect, and the navigators had correlated reflected waves with their direction and their interference patterns with the seasons and so with the sun angle, the arcs of the stars, the distance between islands and island groups. Which gave them a pretty accurate image of the inhabited islands and island groups, but also what else lie out there. They would get reflected waves from the entire Pacific Ocean. So they knew there was some sort of coastline, whether continuous or segmented, all the way around them. And they knew that coastline was very irregular. Most importantly, because they knew the characteristics of a given wave pattern from, say, Chile, when they encountered a wave pattern that was similar and from the same general direction as the coast of Chile, they'd know a new bit of information. Data. Adding up all the observations allowed them to make a pretty decent map, on the cords and shells and feathers and in their heads.

As for Hawaii, the Polynesian navigators observed a very consistent wave pattern coming from the north. Consistent with the seasons. They could see big ass waves in their summer, little to no waves from the north in their winter. In the pattern they could see a chain of islands, because they had studied the wave patterns of lots of island groups and knew what sort of pattern, both silhouetted and reflected, indicated it was from an island group. So they knew there was an island group of some significance, to the north. They knew about what sort angle there was from the eastern end of the chain to the north to the western end of the chain to the north and that angle measured from known island groups to the west and to the east. Which indicated the island chain to the north was very linear and trended from southeast to northwest. They could also tell it was very isolated, no other islands around it, at least not between Polynesia and Hawaii nor to either side of Hawaii. Might be something beyond, hard to tell. Diffraction patterns of diffraction patterns get rather fuzzy, to the point of not being detectable or not being of much use.

They had big fast double hull canoes. Their sails were not the best shapes nor of particularly suitable materials, but they worked and except for the Intertropical Convergence Zone, the winds are pretty steady.

There's no evidence available other than the chants regarding the reasons why a fairly sizeable group of people would undertake such a journey, a journey to a place that nobody is really sure of other than it's out there, and little to no idea of what the place is like, atolls, mountainous, fertile, inhabited, whatever. Just that it's out there. Must of been one really fast talker or there was some really serious outside influence. War? Not unlikely. Famine or drought? Not likely. Who knows?

I am pretty sure it's fairly well accepted there was regular trade between Hawaii and the rest of Polynesia up until around 600- 800 years ago. But then it tapered off. Also, if I remember right, there was a late immigration that is thought to have taken over. An invasion of sorts. The newcomers became the Alii, the royalty.

Anyway, pretty ballsy move to just head on out. Either extremely curious or running from something.
At the Maritime Museum in Auckland they show you exactly that; it is fascinating. And some years ago the largest museum (forgot its name) in Auckland had an exhibition about Polynesian navigation. They showed the boats they used for expeditions - quite different from war canoes and transport vessels. When a clan of Polynesions decided to emigrate, they would send out a a small group first who navigated like RAFH described, and when they had either exhausted half their provisions or found new land, they would turn around. If they had found hospitable land, they would use big house boat style vessels to carry the whole clan, chattel, animals, and provisions to the new colony.
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Britain is fucked.

Alfie's case is just an indicator.

Read what Nigel Farage just wrote ...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/05/01/defying-brexit-lords-shows-travesty-british-democracy-has-become/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Nigel Farage? Seriously? You do know that he is an antisemitic jingoist, tainted by some tax evasion and gift accepting scandals?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Farage
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Israel
The Israel of today bears no resemblance to what I was taught about in communist summer camp in the late 80's. I think it's time to give up and try a new leftist kibbutz utopia somewhere else. But where?
On Dave's island, of course.
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Quit calling people liars, Dave. How is a copy paste of the Pope's own words a lie? You're a despicable person, you know.

What on earth do you think is meant by "the dignity of his life is respected"?
You Shameless bitch. It's a lie because you are intentionally misleading people by leaving out extremely important parts.
I'm beginning to wonder whether Dave is the proud owner of several telescopes.
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Dave, have you considered how much lost production there would be if injuries go u treated? A broken leg could be fatal. Or if you do survive, permanently crippling, leaving you physically unable to follow your goats, sow and harvest seed, etc. How much is the 8 hours it takes the doctor to set your leg and perform follow up visits to make sure its healing properly worth?

Have you read any of Terry Pratchett's "Witches" books? There's a reason they're showered with gifts in the form of goods and services, and don't need to ask for payment.
I like to think of borealis as a combination of Nanny Ogg and Granny Weatherwax.
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I honestly don't know very much about them myself. A few things about them that I do know:

They're an old group - founded in 1905. During those 100 years, they organized and advocated for workers, including in the fight for an 8-hour work day (which succeeded a little over a decade later). And since then, they have been - and still are - working on a 4-hour work day.
That flew right over Dave' head.
(I still have my badges that say "Metal Workers' Union - Strike Helper".)
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There was a hypothesis that a migration happened when the water level of the Red Sea was much lower that today. However, this paper seems to contradict it.

http://www.highstand.org/erohling/Rohling-papers/2006-Fernandes%20et%20al%20J%20Biogeography.pdf
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Yeah but I love that coat.  :ohmy:
Me too! I'd wear a coat like that if only I could lose weight.  :crai:

Don't deprive yourself - find a proper 50s style Swing Coat with a similar theme and wear it with joy. Or find a pattern and some great fabric and make one or have a seamstress make one.

There are some on this page, the ones that widen as soon as they hit mid-bust. They're very flattering on full figures, especially with jeans or leggings.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=vintage%20swing%20coats&qs=n&form=QBIRMH&sp=-1&pq=vintage%20swing%20coats&sc=0-19&sk=&cvid=02D222952CEA4BAB93033A21FA93A90A

ETA: Patterns

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=vintage%20swing%20coat%20pattern&qs=n&form=QBIR&sp=-1&pq=vintage%20swing%20coat%20pattern&sc=0-26&sk=&cvid=289476F1AA7A4527AA0C1ED17083191A
Très chic! I'll try to find a seamstress and report back.
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Yeah but I love that coat.  :ohmy:
Me too! I'd wear a coat like that if only I could lose weight.  :crai:
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Replace goats and sheep with rabbits and Guyana with Australia and maybe you'll see why it's relevant to think about.

Luckily, Australia doesn't have a feral goat problem

oh fuck
I see your goats and raise you Brumbies and donkeys.

http://www.environment.gov.au/system/files/resources/b32a088c-cd31-4b24-8a7c-70e1880508b5/files/feral-horse.pdf

Can't be arsed to look for an article about cane toads.
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Following "socrates'" threads over the years I've come to suspect that deep down, he's a baraminologist (God created kinds which are allowed to change into the type they were meant to become). Of course, he knows that around here, he can't come out as such. So he throws in some sound bites like "branching off" and drags in some papers he doesn't understand to make a point because he thinks that's what everyone in the field does.
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See the number 10 part.
This is exactly what I have been thinking occurred.
https://www.academia.edu/3788868/The_Late_Peopling_of_Africa_According_to_Craniometric_Data._A_Comparison_of_Genetic_and_Linguistic_Models


The part in the North is the migration from the Middle East into Africa that led to the sites on the Nile that we looked at earlier.
From the paper:
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This has given rise to new hypothesis on the population dynamics of Africa over the last 10,000 years.
Honest Doug has cited this paper in the hope that nobody would notice the period it is discussing. But he couldn't resist because finally the arrow points in the right direction !!!111one!
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Ha, the paper is being hotly debated over at "socrates'" thread. I posted the link before I realised that the crowd over there was way ahead of me.
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I wonder if "socrates" accepts that his beloved Neandertals are a stage of an evolutionary process. Because if so, their ancestors were not quite as "Neandertalish". Down the line, the odd mutation appeared in just one person that made him or her a little bit different and closer to the most recent Neandertals. How would that person ever be able to reproduce and pass on the mutation if she or he found all the others in the tribe repugnant and not worth mating with?
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The darwinists are spinning fairy tales about why we have deserts. But if you really want to know the truth about why we have deserts, read this... they are almost all man-made...

http://www.fao.org/docrep/e3200e/e3200e03.htm
http://www.diamantina-tour.com.au/outback_info/map_pages/desertindex2.html

It's a shame what a few thousands of Aborigines did to the once flourishing Australian continent! :whyyou:
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The singer is an amazing performer! :moskau: