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if only some other women had volunteered to be abused by him, then he would've never done this
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FWIW, reddit post :

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But to blame Alek for being an 'incel', and acting out on his hate for women is probably wrong.

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Can't remember if anyone's posted this piece before. It's from 2016:

https://www.vox.com/culture/2016/12/14/13576192/alt-right-sexism-recruitment

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Though various branches of the movement are often at odds with one another, they share a number of core beliefs -- and a common meme-flavored vernacular -- that serve to unite them in what is sometimes called "the manosphere." This realm includes the "men's rights" movement, pickup artist culture (a community of men also labeled "PUAs" that essentially makes a game of the art of bedding women), "incels" (men who are "involuntarily celibate" because they feel women reject them), and geek gatekeepers like supporters of the Gamergate movement.

On the surface, PUA communities and incel communities have a lot of generic appeal: The PUA lifestyle emphasizes self-esteem and confidence building along with physical health, while the incel community allows men to bond over their struggle to achieve all of the above in spite of their sour luck with women. Meanwhile, gamers and geeks habitually tout the importance of gaming in providing social interaction for young men.

These spaces foster the kind of male friendship whose importance doesn't get a lot of attention in the real world. But the benefits of their existence are often accompanied (and sometimes negated) by their tendency to instill in their members a newfound articulation of fundamental anxiety over their position as men in a society where women are actively seeking empowerment.

And in building its membership from so many different communities of white men who ultimately feel threatened and rejected by women, the movement promotes a sense of male entitlement that is easily radicalized into white nationalism and white supremacy.
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ACOG has released an opinion on post-partum care:

https://www.propublica.org/article/maternal-care-ob-gyns-american-college-of-obstetricians-and-gynecologists

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Yet for many women in the U.S., the ACOG committee opinion notes, the postpartum period is "devoid of formal or inforĀ­mal maternal support." This reflects a troubling tendency in the medical system -- and throughout American society -- to focus on the health and safety of the fetus or baby more than that of the mother. "The baby is the candy, the mom is the wrapper," said Alison Stuebe, who teaches in the department of obstetrics and gynecology at the University of North Carolina School of Medicine and heads the task force that drafted the guidelines. "And once the candy is out of the wrapper, the wrapper is cast aside."

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Under the new ACOG guidelines, women would see their providers much earlier -- from within three days postpartum if they have suffered from severe hypertension to no later than three weeks if their pregnancies and deliveries were normal-- and would return as often as needed. Depending on a woman's symptoms and history, the final postpartum visit could take place as late as 12 weeks after delivery and ideally would include "a full assessment of physical, social, and psychological well-being," from pain to weight loss to sexuality to management of chronic diseases, ACOG says.

In another significant change, ACOG is urging providers to emphasize in conversations with patients the long-term health risks associated with pregnancy complications such as preterm delivery, preeclampsia and gestational diabetes. "These risk factors are emerging as an important predictor of future [cardiovascular disease]," the recommendations state. " ... [But because these conditions often resolve postpartum, the increased cardiovascular disease risk is not consistently communicated to women."
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Your average neurotypical lonely teenage boy or even adult man is no less susceptible to this garbage, and the ironic-not-ironic-just-kidding-not-really technique is extremely effective on lots of people.

And not all of it is overt and intentional. Go on youtube and let shit autoplay, and it'll show you increasingly more radical content. You can convince a teenager that the world is fucking flat by letting Google do all the work.
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Millennials killed Toys R Us by not having enough babies and not paying more for the same toys they could get at Walmart or Target:



Great PR strategy, though. Run a massive company into the ground with shady financial shit, fail to adapt to the changing market, and then blame an entire generation for not buying enough of your shit.
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She really does hate him, doesn't she?

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Or we could have just raised some money to get him laid.

outsource the problem and make women responsible for fixing it with their labor, good plan mr. feminist
The oldest profession ...

only because most men don't get directly paid to "well, actually"
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Or we could have just raised some money to get him laid.

outsource the problem and make women responsible for fixing it with their labor, good plan mr. feminist
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Also looking forward to people arguing over whether Caucasians from the literal Caucasus are white and by "looking forward to" I mean brb drinking bleach
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5 bucks says he was radicalized on 4chan, and I'm not being sarcastic or exaggerating when I fucking say radicalized because that's what 4chan fucking does.
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Toxic masculinity is one of the biggest threats to public safety.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
Ronny Jackson, the doctor who did Trump's physical and who has been nominated to replace Shulkin at the VA, may have a couple problems here.



https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/23/politics/ronny-jackson-veterans-affairs-nomination/index.html

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Washington (CNN) Republicans and Democrats on the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee are raising concerns about allegations involving Rear Adm. Ronny Jackson, President Donald Trump's nominee to lead the department of Veterans Affairs and are reviewing them to determine if they are substantial enough to upend his nomination.
Committee members have been told about allegations related to improper conduct in various stages of his career, two sources said.

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This isn't about immigration, but it's another piece of evidence in the "York is a shithole" pile:

https://apnews.com/95e02521b2884a2abd1470fd9b6fecbb

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YORK, Pa. (AP) -- A golf club in Pennsylvania has apologized for calling police on a group of black women after the co-owner and his father said they were playing too slowly and refused requests to leave the course.

"I felt we were discriminated against," one of the women, Myneca Ojo, told the York Daily Record. "It was a horrific experience."

Sandra Thompson and four friends met up Saturday to play a round of golf at the Grandview Golf Club, where they are all members, she told the newspaper.

At the second hole, a white man whose son co-owns the club came up to them twice to complain that they weren't keeping up with the pace of play. Thompson, an attorney and the head of the York chapter of the NAACP, told the newspaper it was untrue.

On the same hole, another member of the group, Sandra Harrison, said she spoke with a Grandview golf pro, who said they were fine since they were keeping pace with the group ahead of them.

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After the ninth hole, where it is customary to take a break before continuing on the next nine holes, three of the group decided to leave because they were so shaken up by the earlier treatment, the women told the paper.

Thompson said the man from the second hole, identified as former York County Commissioner Steve Chronister, his son, club co-owner Jordan Chronister and several other white, male employees approached the remaining two women and said they took too long of a break and they needed to leave the course.

The women argued they took an appropriate break, and that the men behind them were still on their beer break and not ready to tee off, as seen in a video Thompson gave the newspaper. The women were told that the police had been called, and so they waited.

I love how so many assholes call the cops like they're tattling on mommy about their sibling taking more than their fair share of fucking chicken nuggets. I wish these people would get charged for wasting everyone's time by escalating the pettiest shit to the cops at the drop of a hat.
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lol good timing

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/04/existential-anxiety-not-poverty-motivates-trump-support/558674/

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After analyzing in-depth survey data from 2012 and 2016, the University of Pennsylvania political scientist Diana C. Mutz argues that it's the latter. In a new article in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, she added her conclusion to the growing body of evidence that the 2016 election was not about economic hardship.

"Instead," she writes, "it was about dominant groups that felt threatened by change and a candidate who took advantage of that trend."

"For the first time since Europeans arrived in this country," Mutz notes, "white Americans are being told that they will soon be a minority race." When members of a historically dominant group feel threatened, she explains, they go through some interesting psychological twists and turns to make themselves feel okay again. First, they get nostalgic and try to protect the status quo however they can. They defend their own group ("all lives matter"), they start behaving in more traditional ways, and they start to feel more negatively toward other groups.

This could be why in one study, whites who were presented with evidence of racial progress experienced lower self-esteem afterward. In another study, reminding whites who were high in "ethnic identification" that nonwhite groups will soon outnumber them revved up their support for Trump, their desire for anti-immigrant policies, and their opposition to political correctness.

See also:
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0896920517740615
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/ps-political-science-and-politics/article/explaining-the-trump-vote-the-effect-of-racist-resentment-and-antiimmigrant-sentiments/537A8ABA46783791BFF4E2E36B90C0BE
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things i'm enjoying about the kanye thing:

- kanye is literally having a manic episode, and the right wingers are all "boy he's making lots of sense now!"
- he quoted scott adams hahahahahahahahahahahaaaa
- all of the grifters who sneer about celebrity opinions are all over this shit, pissing their pants with excitement:








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right, economic anxiety is real and was successfully exploited by trump in the midwest.  it is also true that trump is a racist who appealed to racists.  neither of these facts changes the other.

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Politics and Current Events / Re: Facebook
Silicon Valley is going to destroy the whole fucking planet.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/21/world/asia/facebook-sri-lanka-riots.html

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We came to this house to try to understand the forces of social disruption that have followed Facebook's rapid expansion in the developing world, whose markets represent the company's financial future. For months, we had been tracking riots and lynchings around the world linked to misinformation and hate speech on Facebook, which pushes whatever content keeps users on the site longest -- a potentially damaging practice in countries with weak institutions.

Time and again, communal hatreds overrun the newsfeed -- the primary portal for news and information for many users -- unchecked as local media are displaced by Facebook and governments find themselves with little leverage over the company. Some users, energized by hate speech and misinformation, plot real-world attacks.

A reconstruction of Sri Lanka's descent into violence, based on interviews with officials, victims and ordinary users caught up in online anger, found that Facebook's newsfeed played a central role in nearly every step from rumor to killing. Facebook officials, they say, ignored repeated warnings of the potential for violence, resisting pressure to hire moderators or establish emergency points of contact.

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It began with a customer yelling in Sinhalese about something he had found in his dinner. Unable to understand Sinhalese, Farsith, the 28-year-old brother running the register, ignored him.

He did not know that the day before, a viral Facebook rumor claimed, falsely, that the police had seized 23,000 sterilization pills from a Muslim pharmacist in Ampara.

The irate customer drew a crowd, which gathered around Farsith, shouting: "You put in sterilization medicine, didn't you?"

He grasped only that they were asking about a lump of flour in the customer's meal, and worried that saying the wrong thing might turn the crowd violent.

"I don't know," Farsith said in broken Sinhalese. "Yes, we put?"

The mob, hearing confirmation, beat him, destroyed the shop and set fire to the local mosque.

In an earlier time, this might have ended in Ampara. But Farsith's "admission" had been recorded on a cellphone. Within hours, a popular Facebook group, the Buddhist Information Center, pushed out the shaky, 18-second video, presenting it as proof of long-rumored Muslim plots. Then it spread.

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And where people do not feel they can rely on the police or courts to keep them safe, research shows, panic over a perceived threat can lead some to take matters into their own hands -- to lynch.

Last year, in rural Indonesia, rumors spread on Facebook and WhatsApp, a Facebook-owned messaging tool, that gangs were kidnapping local children and selling their organs. Some messages included photos of dismembered bodies or fake police fliers. Almost immediately, locals in nine villages lynched outsiders they suspected of coming for their children.

Near-identical social media rumors have also led to attacks in India and Mexico. Lynchings are increasingly filmed and posted back to Facebook, where they go viral as grisly tutorials.
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The swampiest motherfucker, second only to the Trump family itself:



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A review of real estate and other public records shows that Mr. Pruitt was not the sole owner: The property was held by a shell company registered to a business partner and law school friend, Kenneth Wagner. Mr. Wagner now holds a top political job at the Environmental Protection Agency, where Mr. Pruitt, 49, is the administrator.

The mortgage on the Oklahoma City home, the records show, was issued by a local bank that was led by another business associate of Mr. Pruitt's, Albert Kelly. Recently barred from working in the finance industry because of a banking violation, Mr. Kelly is now one of Mr. Pruitt's top aides at the E.P.A. and runs the agency's Superfund program.

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In 2005, the shell company -- Capitol House L.L.C. -- sold the property for $95,000 more than it had paid. While shell companies are legal, they often obscure the people who have an interest in them, and none of Mr. Pruitt's financial disclosure filings in Oklahoma mentioned the company or the proceeds -- a potential violation of the state's ethics rules.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
Someone quoted this old piece on Twitter: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/donald-trump-2016-campaign-biography-psychology-history-barrett-hurt-dantiono-blair-obrien-213835

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Harry Hurt III: I ran into Fred at Coney Island, with his secretary-mistress, one day, and he usually went to a place called Gargiulo's down in that area. But that was closed that day, and so I was with my researcher and we tailed them over to the original Nathan's hot dog stand. Donald was flying somewhere at the time, and we overheard Fred wipe some mustard off his lip, like this here, and he said, "I hope his plane crashes." And I looked at my researcher, and I said, "Did you hear what I just heard?" He said, "Yes, I did." I said, "Well, that's my man. That's Fred. The apple don't fall far from the tree."

lol for real

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Barrett: Yeah. I tell the tale about how Fred has to come to the closing in Atlantic City, and he's against Donald going into Atlantic City. But he goes to the closing, they sit up there and sign all the documents with all the mob guys, you know, to buy all the leaseholds. And Fred and Donald leave and they go down to the limo, and somebody upstairs realizes that Fred missed one document. And they call out the window for Fred to come back, because they're not going to do a deal with Donald.

I mean, I had his tax returns at that time. We got them--probably Tim got them--from the [New Jersey] Division of Gaming Enforcement, and Donald was worth nothing. He was worth nothing. Even the $35 million credit line that they started with for Trump Tower was signed by Fred.

👀👀👀👀
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Call me a petty bitch, but I am enjoying this. lol.

Let this be a lesson to you all to never insult me or I will use my Latina black magic to destroy you slowly. :reign:
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Arts and Entertainment / On the Myth of Real America
Kind of a depressing read, but some of this is what people mean when they say that representation matters.

https://lithub.com/rebecca-solnit-the-myth-of-real-america-just-wont-go-away/

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After all, there was a march in Charlottesville, Virginia, last year full of white men with tiki torches chanting "You will not replace us." Which translates as get the fuck out of my bubble, a bubble that is a state of mind and a sentimental attachment to a largely fictional former America. It's not everyone in this America; for example, Syed Ahmed Jamal's neighbors in Lawrence, Kansas, rallied to defend him when ICE arrested and tried to deport the chemistry teacher and father who had lived in the area for 30 years. It's not all white men; perpetration of the narrative centered on them is something too many women buy into and some admirable men are trying to break out of.

And the meanest voices aren't necessarily those of the actual rural and small-town. In a story about a Pennsylvania coal town named Hazelton, Fox's Tucker Carlson recently declared that immigration brings "more change than human beings are designed to digest," the human beings in this scenario being the white Hazeltonians who are not immigrants, with perhaps an intimation that immigrants are not human beings, let alone human beings who have already had to digest a lot of change. Once again a small-town white American narrative is being treated as though it's about all of us or all of us who count, as though the gentrification of immigrant neighborhoods is not also a story that matters, as though Los Angeles and New York City, both of which have larger populations than many American states, are not America. In New York City, the immigrant population alone exceeds the total population of Kansas (or Nebraska or Idaho or West Virginia, where all those coal miners are).

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Sympathy in pro-bubble America often goes reflexively to the white man in the story. The assumption is that the story is about him; he's the protagonist, the person who matters, and when you, say, read Stephens defending Woody Allen and attacking Dylan Farrow for saying Allen molested her, you see how much work he's done imagining being Woody Allen, how little being Dylan Farrow or anyone like her. It reminds me of how young women pressing rape charges are often told they're harming the bright future of the rapist in question, rather than that maybe he did it to himself, and that their bright future should matter too. The Onion nailed it years ago: "College Basketball Star Heroically Overcomes Tragic Rape He Committed."

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Recently people have revisited a 2010 political-science study that tested the response to fictitious senatorial candidates, identical except for gender; "regardless of whether male politicians were generally preferred over female politicians, participant voters only reacted negatively to the perceived power aspirations of the female politician." They characterized that reaction as "moral outrage": how dare she seek power. How dare she want things for herself rather than others--even though seeking power may be a means to working on behalf of others. How dare she consider the story to be about her or want to be the one who determines what the story is.

And then there's the #MeToo and #TimesUp movements. We've heard from hundreds, perhaps thousands, of women about assaults, threats, harassment, humiliation, coercion, of campaigns that ended careers, pushed them to the brink of suicide. Many men's response to this is sympathy for men. The elderly film director Terry Gilliam said in March, "I feel sorry for someone like Matt Damon who is a decent human being. He came out and said all men are not rapists, and he got beaten to death. Come on, this is crazy!" Matt Damon has not actually been beaten to death. He is one of the most highly-paid actors on earth, which is a significantly different experience than being beaten to death. The actor Chris Evans did much better with this shift, saying recently, "The hardest thing to reconcile is that just because you have good intentions, doesn't mean it's your time to have a voice."

(side note - how long until the skeletons in Terry Gilliam's closet come out?)