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I see Dave is reduced to lurking on the thread, dodging all evidence and just popping up occasionally to make another short stupid claim.

Some things never do change.
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Let's summarize this thread ...

1) Testy did NOT explain anything
2) A creationist - me - raised everyone's awareness about Sloss and megasequences ... you're welcome!
3) We discussed sandstones in various parts of N. America (and Israel) which people like Snelling say were all deposited at the same time.  I think that's probably true and that little blurb from Ager (if accurate) supports this idea ... but it is difficult to prove given the nature of geology
4) To my way of thinking, there is no way you can get a continent sized sandstone layer that's incredibly flat and incredibly thin with small, calm, placid regional inundations over millions of years ... especially when you try to explain the 30 foot boulders at the base of the layers.  The only way you get that is with some sort of massive global cataclysm ... which is very difficult to model, which is why it's taking so much time and money by creationists.


LOL!  I'd forgotten about Dave's little "summaries" where he lies about 99% of the thread and pats himself on the back boasting how his clever and decisive arguments won the day.   :p

Hey Dave, ready to discuss the geology of Missouri yet?



Or are your shorts still badly stained from the last time?
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Hey this looks useful:

Craton formation: Internal structure inherited from closing of the early oceans

Quote from: Abstract
The closure of ancient oceans created a dynamic setting suitable for craton formation via the thickening of continental material over a mantle downwelling. This process subjected the thickening lithosphere to extensive deformation, forming internal structure that can be preserved over the lifetime of the craton. Recent seismic imaging of cratonic lithosphere has led to observations of anomalous features colloquially known as midlithospheric discontinuities. These discontinuities are attributed to a range of sources, including the lithosphere-asthenosphere boundary, melt accumulation, and phase transitions. However, the internal structure imaged within these cratons might be reflective of their formation. In particular, the orientation and nature of the variable depths of the midlithospheric discontinuities suggest a more complicated origin such as that which could be introduced during the formation and thickening phase of cratonic lithosphere. Here, we present geodynamic models demonstrating the internal structures produced during the formation of cratonic lithosphere as well as new seismological observations of midlithospheric discontinuities in the West African craton, together with reassessment of midlithospheric discontinuities observed in the North American, South African, Fennoscandia, and Australian cratons. We suggest that the midlithospheric discontinuities observed in these cratons could be remnants of deformation structures produced during the formation of the cratons after ancient oceans closed.
Any chance of a dastardly octohatter grabbing that one for the plebs? :parrot:

It's available as an open source pdf here.
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Hmm ... my buddy Derek Ager ... who I've quoted before ...

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British geologist Derek Ager in his book The Nature of the Stratigraphical Record4 marvelled at the way sedimentary rocks layers persisted for thousands of kilometres across continents. Like a blanket, they are relatively thin compared with the area they cover. https://creation.com/continent-wide-sedimentary-strata

You can't even explain the distribution of sediment in your own state you dumbass.   ::)
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That's pretty much the situation we have in mainstream geology classrooms these days.

LOL!  Backed into a corner by his own stupidity, Davie-dip resorts to the usual empty bluster and bravado.  Same as it ever was.   :p

Still too much of a chickenshit to discuss the geology of his own state too I see.
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Has Brave Sir Davie badgered off again? 

Why is it every time someone asks him to discuss specific geologic formations instead of his usual vague generalities his testicles shrink 3 sizes?    ::)
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Hey here's a question: if cratons are just stuck together out of lots of random old bits, which seems to be the case, why are they so stable?
Jesus glue

Jebons.



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Easy. Fossilised sauropod poo.

(forehead slap) Darn, I need to think outside the Evolution box.   :p
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Here's a good overview of the geology of Missouri

Geology of Missouri

Maybe Dave can explain how his Majik FLUD distributed the different materials this way?



I particularly like the rock formations at Elephant Rock State Park

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Elephant Rocks State Park in southeastern Missouri exhibits the effects of rock fractures well. While initial cracks formed in the granite as it cooled over 1 billion years ago, during periods of continental uplift over the course of Missouri's history, the larger cracks formed in the rocks, fracturing all of the underlying granite into cubes. As the rocks were slowly uplifted and exposed at the surface, wind and rain slowly eroded, rounded, and enlarged the fractures to produce the large oval shaped boulders that are known as the Elephant Rocks (Seeger 2008).



I'm sure Dave can FLUDsplain these formations too.   :)

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Actually you're right. The state and province boundaries didn't actually exist at the time but the elves knew that they WOULD exist in the future  and they knew where the lines would be so they were able to direct the sandstone deposition intelligently.
Look Dave, we know you're just butthurt because you couldn't support any of your claims. It happens in every thread, so we're all up to speed with the process. Why don't you go shout at your goats until you get over it?
"up to speed"

Lol

Meaning now for the first time in your life,  thanks to a creationist informing you, you are aware that a mainstream geologist - Sloss - proposed continent wide inundations which he believed covered most of the North American continent.

Congratulations! You are one step closer to becoming a YEC!

We'll get you all the way there  eventually. Give me time.

Careful Davie-dip.  I'll start posting pictures of Missouri geology again and make you soil yourself like the last time.   :wave:
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I read the poster. Holy dodgem car continents, Batman. :D
According to the articles on AIG they're still clinging to Baumgardner's old "catastrophic plate tectonics", and still haven't made any attempt to get around the flaws in it.

ICR is worse. It seems to be AIG dumbed down.
Any of the creationist theories even with their problems are better than the alternative ... The mainstream theory that giant sandstone layers were deposited state by state and province by province  in calm, placid waters.  It's really a riot that so many people with advanced science degrees actually believe that shit.

Anyone want to explain to the dumbass how states and provinces didn't exist when the sandstone was deposited?

Nah, let him keep making a fool of himself.
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Y'know there's probably a rich vein of tard connected to Dave's nifty wall chart. Perhaps we should do Rodinia for fun and games. It looks like AIG want to do a variation on Wonderpants for the breakup period.

I know SFA about Rodinia, so it would be something new.

AIG charges $1.99 for a copy of the poster, or $0.99 to download a pdf of it.  The small image on the site is too small to read clearly.

Moneygrubbing Ham has to milk the morons for every last penny it seems.
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Answers in Genesis is getting cooler stuff every year!  Neat wall chart!

What happened to your wacky Wally Wonderpants claim the continents moved 3000 miles in a single 24 hour day?   ::)
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YECs on the other hand, DO care how old it is ... and how it was formed.  Because they are curious people.
  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl: 

YECs are pretty much the least curious people on the planet.
Unless your davinition of "curious" is "militantly ignorant".

Oh Davie-dip is a curious person alright.

I remember when we had a "Geologic formations YEC's can't explain" thread at the old board.  It went to hundreds of posts with pictures of the most amazing geology.  Brave Sir Dave was too much of a chickenshit to post there.  Since that was too scary we then had a "Geology of Missouri" thread with geologic formations literally right in Dave's back yard.  Dave was still too much of a chickenshit to comment.

Mr. Curiosity indeed.
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No. No she wasn't.  God damn you are an idiot Dave

I don't know how he managed it but Dave is even more of a moron now than he was in the last decade.
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"relatively small" ... Lol

How deep is the sandstone overlying the Canadian Shield dumbass?  How did the Majik FLUD miss that much surface area?
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Here's some nice info on Cambrian sandstone correlation over wide areas for you people to ignore ...
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Stratigraphic equivalents and related units

Stratigraphically equivalent and lithologically similar sandstone extends across the international border into Canada, although stratigraphic boundaries and nomenclature can differ.[11][12] In Ontario, the Nepean Sandstone was formerly called "Potsdam" and is regarded as a stratigraphic equivalent to the Potsdam Sandstone.[21][22][23] In Quebec, the Potsdam Group is recognized, consisting of the Covey Hill Formation and the Cairnside Formation, both of which are sandstones.[12]

Historically the name "Potsdam sandstone" was also applied to various other North American sandstone bodies that directly overlie Precambrian crystalline rocks, including sandstones in Canada, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, and Indiana, and attempts were made to identify or correlate various rocks with the Potsdam formation.[23][24][25] The basal Cambrian sandstone formation in much of the upper Mississippi Valley and southern Great Lakes region is now designated the Mount Simon Sandstone and is, in turn, assigned to the Potsdam Supergroup, which takes its name from the Potsdam Sandstone.[24] Similar quartz arenite sandstone found in Wyoming was also identified historically as the "Potsdam sandstone."[25][26] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potsdam_Sandstone


Psst...hey dumbass....just because there are multiple Cambrian age sandstone deposits scattered around the globe doesn't meant they were all deposited by the same body of water.
Right.  The Sauk Sea went state by state all over the US and then province by province all over Canada.  Moses (of Red Sea fame) was called in to make the water stand up in a wall so that the sandstone would only get deposited in one state / province at a time.  Lol


Psst..hey dumbass...you're the one who needs to explain why your "FLUD" only covered a relatively small portion of the planet with sandstone.  But you won't explain it because you're a dumbass.
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Here's some nice info on Cambrian sandstone correlation over wide areas for you people to ignore ...
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Stratigraphic equivalents and related units

Stratigraphically equivalent and lithologically similar sandstone extends across the international border into Canada, although stratigraphic boundaries and nomenclature can differ.[11][12] In Ontario, the Nepean Sandstone was formerly called "Potsdam" and is regarded as a stratigraphic equivalent to the Potsdam Sandstone.[21][22][23] In Quebec, the Potsdam Group is recognized, consisting of the Covey Hill Formation and the Cairnside Formation, both of which are sandstones.[12]

Historically the name "Potsdam sandstone" was also applied to various other North American sandstone bodies that directly overlie Precambrian crystalline rocks, including sandstones in Canada, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, and Indiana, and attempts were made to identify or correlate various rocks with the Potsdam formation.[23][24][25] The basal Cambrian sandstone formation in much of the upper Mississippi Valley and southern Great Lakes region is now designated the Mount Simon Sandstone and is, in turn, assigned to the Potsdam Supergroup, which takes its name from the Potsdam Sandstone.[24] Similar quartz arenite sandstone found in Wyoming was also identified historically as the "Potsdam sandstone."[25][26] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potsdam_Sandstone


Psst...hey dumbass....just because there are multiple Cambrian age sandstone deposits scattered around the globe doesn't meant they were all deposited by the same body of water.
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  YECs on the other hand, DO care how old it is ... and how it was formed.  Because they are curious people.


Most YECs are "curious" people, as in severely mentally deficient.
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Who owns the AMS lab? A young earth creationist? Or an old earther?
How about an agnostic who takes no position?
Do you know any agnostics who take no position on the Age of the Earth?  I've never met one online or anywhere else.

Well there was this guy around 2006, who started appearing on various blogs claiming to be able to be "convinced" that the Earth was old. He said he had a "hypothesis", but he could conceivably drop it if the evidence indicated otherwise. And wished to see said evidence.

His name was AFDoug or something.

But you've probably never heard of him, since you say you've absolutely no knowledge of any person like that. Oh well, he was probably just a lying hypocrite then.

Holy fuck, it really has been over 11 years since we started trying to educate Davey-dip.  That's a lot of tard under the bridge.
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The bald guy standing in front of the middle door looks like he's straining to take a massive dump.
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Hey Dave, remember that thread on the old forum "Geologic Features that Creationists can't Explain"?  The one that made you shit your pants and run crying from the room?  We can resurrect some of those examples if your like.  I'd love to see your experiment showing how a one-time Flood can create angular unconformities or 180 deg. switchback incised meanders.

You game?   :]
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So anyway dave, in every new diversion thread you start, I'm gonna remind you to:

Pay NCSE the 100 bucks you owe them, and

Correct (or delete) your Popper post on your blog.


Hope that's cool. Just looking out for you.

Is that the $100 for the bet he lost and welshed on a few years back?  Or another bet be lost and welshed on?
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This precept of "Hawkins Reading" saves you time thus making your reading more efficient.

Which you've taken to the logical extreme by not reading science papers or people's replies to you at all.

Think of how efficient you could be if you stopped eating and drinking.  You should try it for a month.
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Neither you, nor Batten, have given any reason to think that a low AVERAGE number is unbelievable.  It is perfectly believable.
No it's not.

Did you see the paper I posted?

We have no reason to believe that hunter gatherer growth rates were less than agriculturists.

Did you even read past the title of the paper?  It's documenting one very specific area - hunter-gatherer population growth between 13,000 and 6,000 y ago in the western US states of Wyoming and Colorado by using radiocarbon dates of inhabited sites.    That's a place you think didn't exist at a time you say didn't happen using a method you say doesn't work.   :hmm:

Ignoring all your hypocrisy, why in the world do you think these narrow results should extrapolate to the middle east 4500 years ago?