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Title: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 03, 2017, 10:43:11 PM
Just picked up the Necromancer addition to Diablo 3.

Running around with a skellie army is p. fun.

Picked up a lot of stuff on the steam summer sale that I'll probably never finish.

Rolled a character on The Secret World: Legends a fun Lovecraftian "shared" world.

Also working on finishing the FFXIV Heavensward expansion so I can get into the new Stormblood content.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: DaveGodfrey on July 04, 2017, 04:40:10 AM
Still somewhat addicted to Warcrack. Picked up Civ 6 which I'm definitely enjoying.
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Post by: Bilirubin on July 04, 2017, 01:10:40 PM
I have almost won the Steam Summer Sale Sticker Jamboree. Rated 2/5, EZ mode
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Post by: meepmeep on July 04, 2017, 06:37:14 PM
Have any of you fellow nerds tried Thimbleweed Park? It's by the guy who made Maniac Mansion, which I just started playing again since little 6 year old meeps couldn't figure out how to beat it.
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Post by: ffejrxx on July 04, 2017, 07:39:07 PM
starcraft anthology is still free
https://us.battle.net/shop/en/product/starcraft

but yea steam has lots of good games on sale
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Bilirubin on July 04, 2017, 07:51:34 PM
I have almost won the Steam Summer Sale Sticker Jamboree. Rated 2/5, EZ mode
Won it with all cards now stickered and saved, winning me the pride and admiration of my friends.

:smith:
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: meepmeep on July 04, 2017, 08:52:37 PM
I just finally got a Steam account tonight because of the sale so I could buy a bunch of super old games for dirt cheap. Couldn't possibly fill my sticker book, though. Man, I'm such a failure. :sadcheer:
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Bilirubin on July 04, 2017, 10:33:28 PM
Sorry. It took me two days to do vOv
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Valor on July 05, 2017, 04:54:32 AM
Have any of you fellow nerds tried Thimbleweed Park? It's by the guy who made Maniac Mansion, which I just started playing again since little 6 year old meeps couldn't figure out how to beat it.

Well, my dear. Hope you're having fun! Within minutes it'll all be over. You'll be hooked up to my machine getting your pretty brains sucked out.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 05, 2017, 07:04:08 AM
Have any of you fellow nerds tried Thimbleweed Park? It's by the guy who made Maniac Mansion, which I just started playing again since little 6 year old meeps couldn't figure out how to beat it.
I browse 4chan's /v/ forum quite a bit and I see it mentioned pretty favorably there quite a few times and they hate all games.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 05, 2017, 07:06:39 AM
I have almost won the Steam Summer Sale Sticker Jamboree. Rated 2/5, EZ mode
I keep getting copies of the dumb camping sticker.

Wish they'd bring back the clicker games.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: tysixtus on July 07, 2017, 04:50:34 PM
Dark Souls.  Always going back to it.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Bilirubin on July 08, 2017, 05:38:40 PM
Dark Souls.  Always going back to it.
I would like to know more about this
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Bilirubin on July 08, 2017, 05:40:51 PM
Also am about halfway through Fallout:New Vegas, bought FO4, have to play through HL2 (I am way behind, I blame EVE:Online), and then the new DOOM
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Bilirubin on July 08, 2017, 05:41:15 PM
Oh, and Morrowind at some point
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: meepmeep on July 08, 2017, 05:41:54 PM
All I can tell you is that it looks neat but Ty is always swearing at the TV when he plays it and there's this creaking door noise that makes the dog bark.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: MSG on July 08, 2017, 06:03:56 PM
Ty is always swearing at the TV when he plays it
you make it sound like that's a bad thing
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: meepmeep on July 08, 2017, 06:19:26 PM
It is occasionally startling when I'm trying to concentrate on something.

The animals exact revenge for this on my behalf.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: MSG on July 08, 2017, 07:25:06 PM
Memescape
It is occasionally startling
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 08, 2017, 08:06:09 PM
All I can tell you is that it looks neat but Ty is always swearing at the TV when he plays it and there's this creaking door noise that makes the dog bark.
Whenever he does that just shout over, "Git gud scrub!"
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Valor on July 08, 2017, 10:47:58 PM
Also am about halfway through Fallout:New Vegas, bought FO4, have to play through HL2 (I am way behind, I blame EVE:Online), and then the new DOOM

I am thinking about maybe picking up eve online. I see a lot of people on the internet saying it's the closest thing to Ultima Online and here lately I've been missing UO, all the mmorpgs these days are shitty though.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: meepmeep on July 08, 2017, 11:04:57 PM
All I can tell you is that it looks neat but Ty is always swearing at the TV when he plays it and there's this creaking door noise that makes the dog bark.
Whenever he does that just shout over, "Git gud scrub!"

I don't shout.

I'm a lady, motherfucker.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: teeming brown mass on July 09, 2017, 09:51:45 AM
"Improve upon thy skills, goodsir"
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Bilirubin on July 09, 2017, 12:34:52 PM
Also am about halfway through Fallout:New Vegas, bought FO4, have to play through HL2 (I am way behind, I blame EVE:Online), and then the new DOOM

I am thinking about maybe picking up eve online. I see a lot of people on the internet saying it's the closest thing to Ultima Online and here lately I've been missing UO, all the mmorpgs these days are shitty though.
Its entirely unlike UO, but if you do get EVE then it is absolutely critical to get with a good active squad. The learning curve is a bitch and you should never play EVE alone
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: teeming brown mass on July 09, 2017, 04:46:17 PM
a friend of mine is trying to sell some medieval MMO on the basis that "dude it's the EVE of medieval combat!" which is not selling it for me like at all.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Bilirubin on July 09, 2017, 07:53:41 PM
well if you can have battles with thousands of players on the field at once I would say go for it. But if it requires the learning curve of EVE, where you have to spend x time as a page, learn how to mine, then forge, pig iron into steel swords, then pass.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Valor on July 09, 2017, 10:18:43 PM
yeah see that's why I don't want to go play eve, I just wanna camp the bank in my death robes and spam steal
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Post by: teeming brown mass on July 09, 2017, 11:37:42 PM
this is why I play borderlands
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Post by: the idea of Harambe on July 10, 2017, 06:18:01 AM
finding myself spending less and less time "actually playing games" than modding them, which seems bad but i also don't particularly feel like judging myself for having fun in a different way

anyone play stellaris?
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: teeming brown mass on July 10, 2017, 07:35:54 AM
I sometimes play stellaris. I keep getting fucked by the fallen empires.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: the idea of Harambe on July 10, 2017, 07:38:10 AM
what, while they're still dormant or after they awaken? what happens, and is it a particular type each time?
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 10, 2017, 09:03:56 AM
finding myself spending less and less time "actually playing games" than modding them, which seems bad but i also don't particularly feel like judging myself for having fun in a different way

anyone play stellaris?
I've got it and started it a few times but have never completed a game yet.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 10, 2017, 09:05:04 AM
I was playing EU4 a lot for awhile until the Mandate of Heaven dlc came out and now China is an unstoppable force in the game from the very beginning.  Makes playing in Asia not that fun.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: the idea of Harambe on July 10, 2017, 09:13:35 AM
finding myself spending less and less time "actually playing games" than modding them, which seems bad but i also don't particularly feel like judging myself for having fun in a different way

anyone play stellaris?
I've got it and started it a few times but have never completed a game yet.
the idea of "completing" paradox games confuses me and i have no idea why it has victory conditions
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: the idea of Harambe on July 10, 2017, 09:14:11 AM
I was playing EU4 a lot for awhile until the Mandate of Heaven dlc came out and now China is an unstoppable force in the game from the very beginning.  Makes playing in Asia not that fun.
it's hilarious that mapgames can't really account for why china did not actually turn into a horrifying unstoppable colossus.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: teeming brown mass on July 10, 2017, 09:22:58 AM
what, while they're still dormant or after they awaken? what happens, and is it a particular type each time?

normally I'm Jewing it up and trying to settle as much territory as possible without fully exploring the surrounding area and ensuring I understand the local politics. Fallen empires don't like it when your territory presses up against theirs. Then they send a couple of 10k fleets to basically every one of your colonies.

I hear the most recent update modifies this dynamic a bit, which is a positive thing.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: the idea of Harambe on July 10, 2017, 09:27:58 AM
i follow the game's updates pretty closely and i don't know of anything that sounds specifically like a "fix" for what you're talking about

but. uh.

exploration is like 75% of the early game so if you're not scouting and sending science ships to survey everything around you then idk what you're even doing man. that would let you know before you leap where a FE who hates neighbors is. (it's the xenophobes, the xenophiles will actually give you ships for the low price of letting them take a bunch of your people for a zoo.)
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 10, 2017, 09:28:29 AM
I was playing EU4 a lot for awhile until the Mandate of Heaven dlc came out and now China is an unstoppable force in the game from the very beginning.  Makes playing in Asia not that fun.
it's hilarious that mapgames can't really account for why china did not actually turn into a horrifying unstoppable colossus.
Well, before MoH came out China (Ming) always had a fair shot of disintegrating due to massive rebellions.  Now, even if Ming loses the Mandate their country is solid and will not break up.  Sometimes a very experienced player (which I'm not despite hundreds of hours in the game) can deal with it but even then it's a crap shoot.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 10, 2017, 09:30:19 AM
finding myself spending less and less time "actually playing games" than modding them, which seems bad but i also don't particularly feel like judging myself for having fun in a different way

anyone play stellaris?
I've got it and started it a few times but have never completed a game yet.
the idea of "completing" paradox games confuses me and i have no idea why it has victory conditions
Yeah, bad wording on my part.  One of the reasons I like Paradox games is the ability to decide what you want to accomplish, i.e. reform Byzantium and just play until you meet the goal you set for yourself.

A lot of times I'll pick out an achievement and try to play until I get that achievement.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 10, 2017, 09:32:30 AM
As far as Stellaris goes I want to be at least competent at it but every time I start I end up being neighbors with a society that within a few turns has a much stronger fleet bearing down on my worlds.  So my games usually last until I have 4 or 5 systems scouted and starting to colonize them.

Maybe I need to just start focusing on military sooner and building up my fleets earlier.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: teeming brown mass on July 10, 2017, 09:42:19 AM
i follow the game's updates pretty closely and i don't know of anything that sounds specifically like a "fix" for what you're talking about

but. uh.

exploration is like 75% of the early game so if you're not scouting and sending science ships to survey everything around you then idk what you're even doing man. that would let you know before you leap where a FE who hates neighbors is. (it's the xenophobes, the xenophiles will actually give you ships for the low price of letting them take a bunch of your people for a zoo.)

I explore like a motherfucker but when I see a really nice habitable planet surrounded by lots of sick-ass resources, I normally jump on it before I make sure it's not bordering on an FE, especially in the early-stage part of the game where territorial expansion is important to build up a legitimately large economy.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: the idea of Harambe on July 10, 2017, 09:44:48 AM
i guess i just never experienced that happening so consistently so i don't know what's going on. before it would ever become an issue, i have a good idea of where the local FEs are already.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 10, 2017, 09:46:01 AM
Any other nerds following the Paradox dlc controversy?

The only real problem I have with their dlc policy is their habit of breaking the game and making it mandatory to buy the dlc to "fix" it . . . I'm looking at you Common Sense EU4 dlc.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: teeming brown mass on July 10, 2017, 09:51:29 AM
actually it's about ethics in game marketing
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 10, 2017, 09:54:59 AM
It does seem to be a little out of hand when someone looking to start playing Paradox games is faced with having to spend around $200 to get an up to date version of the game.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: teeming brown mass on July 10, 2017, 10:03:54 AM
remember back when you'd buy a game on floppy disks and if the game had problems, your options were to return the physical game to the store and ask for your money back or to spend days on the phone with the company trying to get them to send you a patched version of the game?

pepperidge farm remembers.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: teeming brown mass on July 10, 2017, 10:05:16 AM
or when you accidentally scratched the game disk and now you need to buy a new copy of Halo because it glitches the fuck out when you fire up a match in Hang Em High?
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: teeming brown mass on July 10, 2017, 10:09:54 AM
see basically here's the problem in my mind

We want nonstop updates and patches to these games. We want those patches and updates to all be free. We want the price of the game itself to drop to a reasonable amount after an initial roll-out period because that's what physical copies used to do (because stores were trying to move stock). We want online community support.

And oh right we want companies to put these games out as fast as humanly possible without all the bug testing they used to do, often on a kickstarted budget that doesn't account for bug testing. And we harass game designers when they take "too much time" to get the games done (e.g. Half Life 3).

I dunno. I just don't get mad at game companies. I think gamers are mostly a bunch of dinguses.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 10, 2017, 10:10:28 AM
remember back when you'd buy a game on floppy disks and if the game had problems, your options were to return the physical game to the store and ask for your money back or to spend days on the phone with the company trying to get them to send you a patched version of the game?

pepperidge farm remembers.
I remember them being on cassette tape.  :getoffmylawnoldman:
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 10, 2017, 10:16:46 AM
see basically here's the problem in my mind

We want nonstop updates and patches to these games. We want those patches and updates to all be free. We want the price of the game itself to drop to a reasonable amount after an initial roll-out period because that's what physical copies used to do (because stores were trying to move stock). We want online community support.

And oh right we want companies to put these games out as fast as humanly possible without all the bug testing they used to do, often on a kickstarted budget that doesn't account for bug testing. And we harass game designers when they take "too much time" to get the games done (e.g. Half Life 3).

I dunno. I just don't get mad at game companies. I think gamers are mostly a bunch of dinguses.

No, I don't think most people do want nonstop updates and patches and games put out as quickly as possible.

I think most people want complete games that aren't a buggy mess upon release.

We don't want "games as a service (http://kotaku.com/top-video-game-companies-wont-stop-talking-about-games-1795663927)" as Square-Enix and others are calling it.

Always online, constant patches, micro-transactions (even in single player games now ffs) in full-price games are not things lots of gamers are crying for.

There's a reason CD Projekt Red is one of the more popular publishers/developers around right now.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: teeming brown mass on July 10, 2017, 10:49:59 AM
My experience is that there is a very vocal community of gamers who do want regular rebalancing and content updates in order to ensure that competitive gameplay remains balanced. If you go back to the old floppy disk and CD games there were always aspects of gameplay that the designers tried really hard to put in games but which were never really fun because the balance was off. In competitive online games (e.g. Overwatch or Dota) you see this sort of rebalancing constantly as a means of keeping things interesting.

I agree that we don't want buggy games released but the problem, again, is that we're not paying gaming companies enough to both support post-release costs of the games (e.g. gaming servers, community support, etc) as well as enough to do complete bug testing. And let's be honest here, most gamers are not paying full price. A lot are getting games either on steam sale or are getting repackaged game licenses from sites like G2A that broker sales of games which were bought for cheap on steam sales.

I agree that a lot of the online game marketplace stuff is a pain in the ass, but at the same time, I totally understand why the game industry is changing in the way it has. I can't really argue with the fact that cuts have to come from somewhere and a company like Square-Enix will try to keep their content creators and either start charging microtransactions or whatever.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: teeming brown mass on July 10, 2017, 10:55:33 AM
tl;dr: I hate game companies too, but not as much as I hate gamers.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 10, 2017, 11:16:43 AM
My experience is that there is a very vocal community of gamers who do want regular rebalancing and content updates in order to ensure that competitive gameplay remains balanced. If you go back to the old floppy disk and CD games there were always aspects of gameplay that the designers tried really hard to put in games but which were never really fun because the balance was off. In competitive online games (e.g. Overwatch or Dota) you see this sort of rebalancing constantly as a means of keeping things interesting.

Sure, and for games like Overwatch, DOTA and other online-multiplayer games that makes sense and should happen.

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I agree that we don't want buggy games released but the problem, again, is that we're not paying gaming companies enough to both support post-release costs of the games (e.g. gaming servers, community support, etc) as well as enough to do complete bug testing. And let's be honest here, most gamers are not paying full price. A lot are getting games either on steam sale or are getting repackaged game licenses from sites like G2A that broker sales of games which were bought for cheap on steam sales.

Not every game should have game servers, etc.  There's no reason games like Dishonored or Assassin's Creed need their own servers.  Even games like Diablo 3 shouldn't require dedicated servers.

I think most gamers understand that games right now are at historically low prices and would be ok with a price adjustment.  But don't try to charge us more for a single -player game while at the same time adding F2P elements like cash shops and microtransactions on top of the full price.

I'll point again to CD Projekt Red that released a complete game and then gave their customers free dlc and a couple of paid dlc that were excellent additions to Witcher 3 and not just blind cash grabs.

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I agree that a lot of the online game marketplace stuff is a pain in the ass, but at the same time, I totally understand why the game industry is changing in the way it has. I can't really argue with the fact that cuts have to come from somewhere and a company like Square-Enix will try to keep their content creators and either start charging microtransactions or whatever.
What boggles my mind about Square-Enix in particular is that they tried their "games as a service" model with the latest Hitman release and it was such a failure that they got rid of the developers.  And now they want to bring that into their flagship Final Fantasy series.  It's stupid and just goes to show that even if you've been able to finagle a multi-million dollar a year job that you can still be an idiot about what should be your core business.

Oh, and don't get me started on the latest loot crate fad. Ugh.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 10, 2017, 11:17:02 AM
tl;dr: I hate game companies too, but not as much as I hate gamers.
Yes, gamers are shit.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: teeming brown mass on July 10, 2017, 11:29:50 AM
basically game developers have never called me homophobic names for getting ganked by a hanzo main in overwatch
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 10, 2017, 11:36:58 AM
basically game developers have never called me homophobic names for getting ganked by a hanzo main in overwatch
Uh, if you're getting ganked by a hanzo main then you are gay.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: teeming brown mass on July 10, 2017, 11:48:37 AM
actually it's about ethics in Overwatch meta
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: teeming brown mass on July 10, 2017, 11:49:10 AM
anyways fuck you I'm a Sombra main
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Bilirubin on July 14, 2017, 01:13:24 PM
Pretty glad I nevre playd Overwatch.

I am in the Quake demo and should probably play a few matches in it sometime
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: tysixtus on July 17, 2017, 08:12:46 AM
Dark Souls.  Always going back to it.
I would like to know more about this

What would you like to know?
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Bilirubin on July 18, 2017, 07:10:51 PM
Anything at all I guess I could google a synopsis so stick with "what keeps you going back"?
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ToThePoint on July 18, 2017, 10:45:58 PM
waiting.
Beyond Good and Evil 2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_Good_and_Evil_2)
and waiting.
and still waiting....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UpuHsTvNHc
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 19, 2017, 06:07:51 AM
Anything at all I guess I could google a synopsis so stick with "what keeps you going back"?
Other than a couple of places, I'm looking at you Blighttown, the areas are great the way they are interconnected and the game doesn't force you to go through linearly.

Combat is fun.  People say it's hard but once it clicks it's great.

Boss fights.  They can make you break a controller in frustration but when you finally beat it you get a pretty sweet rush of "fuck yeah!"

No mercy.  If you're not paying attention something will kill you.

Sif.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: tysixtus on July 19, 2017, 07:00:58 AM
Anything at all I guess I could google a synopsis so stick with "what keeps you going back"?

To the series in general?  It would be the depth of the game play, the mechanics, and the replayability. 

The game (all three of them, really, but especially 1 and 3) is built so that if you're playing as a heavily armored knight, your experience will be almost completely different than if you played as a sorcerer, or a thief, etc.  If you think of the game as one large puzzle, the way to navigate the puzzle is based on your character class.  For me, that's tremendously fun.

Also, the difficulty is certainly high, but it is not insurmountable.  So, beating certain challenges is actually rewarding, instead of "Okay, beat this, next level."  In general, the game demands concentration and focus, so if you're doing it right you end up in the zone and it is almost meditative in its ability to force out -- or force you to force out -- distractions.

Then you've got everything else: phenomenal art design, a great score, a great atmosphere.  I can't recommend the series enough, though if it has a weakpoint it is the second game.  I you played 1 and 3, you'd be fine.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 19, 2017, 07:07:57 AM
I like 3 a lot and it's the one I've beat the most times.  But I don't know if it was a great idea to put Bloodborne enemies in a Dark Souls game.

Ty, have you played the DS3 DLCs yet?  I have them but haven't played them yet.  I heard The Ringed City is Old Hunters tier good.

Oh and bili for your first playthrough try to avoid fat-rolling.  Fat-rolling happens when the weight of your gear is a certain percentage of your carry limit.  Unless you are able to get parry timing right (I suck at parrying) rolling will be the main way you avoid getting hit.

Also protip: Stamina is life.  Don't forget to put your shield down otherwise your stamina will not regenerate fast enough.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: tysixtus on July 19, 2017, 07:37:05 AM
I like 3 a lot and it's the one I've beat the most times.  But I don't know if it was a great idea to put Bloodborne enemies in a Dark Souls game.

Ty, have you played the DS3 DLCs yet?  I have them but haven't played them yet.  I heard The Ringed City is Old Hunters tier good.

Oh and bili for your first playthrough try to avoid fat-rolling.  Fat-rolling happens when the weight of your gear is a certain percentage of your carry limit.  Unless you are able to get parry timing right (I suck at parrying) rolling will be the main way you avoid getting hit.

Also protip: Stamina is life.  Don't forget to put your shield down otherwise your stamina will not regenerate fast enough.

I have the DLC's and am playing through them now, for the first time.  I recently upgraded my rig so I am playing DS3 on my now-kick-ass machine.  The game is so much better at 60 FPS, makes a huge difference.  I'm not at Ringed City yet, just Ariendel (which, I hear, is the weaker of the two DLCs.)

Mostly I got it so I could fight in the undead arena and school dudes with my Cathedral Knight Greatsword.

Bili: If you start playing DS1 I will make a YouTube series called "Old Souls" and I will walk you and other people through DS1, how does that sound?
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 19, 2017, 07:42:19 AM
EpicNameBro has probably the best DS1 series called "From the Dark".

I would watch a Ty series though.

Do you stick to the SL120 meta or whatever it is now?
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: tysixtus on July 19, 2017, 07:47:21 AM
EpicNameBro has probably the best DS1 series called "From the Dark".

I would watch a Ty series though.

Do you stick to the SL120 meta or whatever it is now?

No.  I usually don't event get my guys to 120, I really don't like NG+.  I don't see the point.

Did you play Bloodborne?
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 19, 2017, 07:57:41 AM
I did play Bloodborne.  I haven't finished it though.  I've only got a couple of bosses to go but I put it down for whatever reason and haven't got back to it.

I'm great at starting games and getting halfway through.  I'm terrible at finishing them.

The character I'm close to finishing it with is an arcane build and once you get the gear for it it's pretty fun.

Did you play it?
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: tysixtus on July 19, 2017, 07:58:16 AM
I've beaten it multiple times -- it might actually edge out DS1 for my favorite game.  It is a masterpiece.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 19, 2017, 08:02:25 AM
It is a great game.

Hey, how did you deal with the brain guys that cause frenzy?  I hated those guys.  I think I just put on all the frenzy resist stuff I could tried to creep up on them and just ran in ax flailing when they noticed me.

Usually didn't end well.

I don't know if it's even fair to call it a souls game.  It's so much faster and you get rewarded for being aggressive unlike Dark Souls which will push your shit in if you get too aggressive.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: tysixtus on July 19, 2017, 08:10:07 AM
It is a great game.

Hey, how did you deal with the brain guys that cause frenzy?  I hated those guys.  I think I just put on all the frenzy resist stuff I could tried to creep up on them and just ran in ax flailing when they noticed me.

Usually didn't end well.

I don't know if it's even fair to call it a souls game.  It's so much faster and you get rewarded for being aggressive unlike Dark Souls which will push your shit in if you get too aggressive.

Bait them into attacking, riposte, visceral attack.  It will kill them in one strike.  Also, if you time it right the frenzy damage will occur while you're in the middle of the visceral attack, so you won't take any damage.  This guy gets it right, though he waits a little too long for my comfort:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p70HgAuLQpA

Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 19, 2017, 01:32:44 PM
Thanks!

It's weird how some bosses are impossible for some people but kind of easy for others.

For example in DS3 I've read people complaining about how hard Sulyvahn and Dancer are but they were two bosses I was able to down pretty easily.  But Vicar Amelia or Blood Starved Beast in BB?  Forget it.  Those bosses own me every time.

I find a good tactic for me is to get right up next to them and stay there as much as possible.  For Dancer in DS3 I put my nose right in her ass and kept it there and beat her first time.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 19, 2017, 01:59:34 PM
I bet you guys thought under/unemployment and low labor force participation was caused by a combination of technology, outsourcing, etc.  But you'd be wrong.

U. of Chicago economist Erik Hurst has it all figured out: it's videogames (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/7/15933674/video-games-job-supply).

eta: Bloomberg to the rescue! (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-07-11/young-men-give-up-work-for-video-games-be-skeptical)
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: tysixtus on July 19, 2017, 04:15:27 PM
I bet you guys thought under/unemployment and low labor force participation was caused by a combination of technology, outsourcing, etc.  But you'd be wrong.

U. of Chicago economist Erik Hurst has it all figured out: it's videogames (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/7/15933674/video-games-job-supply).

eta: Bloomberg to the rescue! (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-07-11/young-men-give-up-work-for-video-games-be-skeptical)

Lol.  If you only knew how much trouble this study has caused me over the last two weeks.  Mother fuck.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: tysixtus on July 19, 2017, 04:20:08 PM
I put my nose right in her ass
(http://i.imgur.com/wLp3DhF.gif)
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 19, 2017, 04:20:43 PM
It's an effective strategy.  :smug:
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 19, 2017, 04:22:42 PM
I bet you guys thought under/unemployment and low labor force participation was caused by a combination of technology, outsourcing, etc.  But you'd be wrong.

U. of Chicago economist Erik Hurst has it all figured out: it's videogames (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/7/15933674/video-games-job-supply).

eta: Bloomberg to the rescue! (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-07-11/young-men-give-up-work-for-video-games-be-skeptical)

Lol.  If you only knew how much trouble this study has caused me over the last two weeks.  Mother fuck.
I did think of you when I read about this study the other day and wondered if you were having to fight back against it.

Welp, I gotta get home after working around 10 hours today to put in my 3 to 4 hours of gaming.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: tysixtus on July 19, 2017, 04:28:10 PM
Also, here's the secret for the Blood Starved Beast and Vicar Amelia.

From Software is notorious for giving people the easiest way to win right up front, and this game is no exception.  Take the Saw Cleaver (in regular mode, not trick mode), and get it to +3, or ideally +4, or even to +6.  You can get it to +6 if you let the Body Snatcher (the really tall guys with the blood sacks) take to you to the Hypogean Gaol.  Then, just farm the Body Snatchers in the Gaol for Twin Bloodstone Shards, as they drop pretty regularly. 

But even if you don't want to bother getting the cleaver to +6, get it to +3.  Then, pop a beast pellet and use fire paper.  The Saw Cleaver in regular mode is serrated, which means it does extra damage to beasts.  Fire paper also does extra damage to beasts. And finally, the beast pellet will increase your overall damage.  You will absolutely wreck any beast enemies doing this -- the Cleric Beast (though usually, you should have killed him already), the Blood Starved Beast, Vicar Amelia, and Darkbeast Paarl.  

In other words, the story-canon weapon is actually the one you want to be using in the beginning of the game.  You will fuck shit up, I promise.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: the idea of Harambe on July 19, 2017, 10:00:09 PM
I bet you guys thought under/unemployment and low labor force participation was caused by a combination of technology, outsourcing, etc.  But you'd be wrong.

U. of Chicago economist Erik Hurst has it all figured out: it's videogames (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/7/15933674/video-games-job-supply).

eta: Bloomberg to the rescue! (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-07-11/young-men-give-up-work-for-video-games-be-skeptical)

Lol.  If you only knew how much trouble this study has caused me over the last two weeks.  Mother fuck.
go on...
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Bilirubin on July 19, 2017, 10:15:38 PM
I like 3 a lot and it's the one I've beat the most times.  But I don't know if it was a great idea to put Bloodborne enemies in a Dark Souls game.

Ty, have you played the DS3 DLCs yet?  I have them but haven't played them yet.  I heard The Ringed City is Old Hunters tier good.

Oh and bili for your first playthrough try to avoid fat-rolling.  Fat-rolling happens when the weight of your gear is a certain percentage of your carry limit.  Unless you are able to get parry timing right (I suck at parrying) rolling will be the main way you avoid getting hit.

Also protip: Stamina is life.  Don't forget to put your shield down otherwise your stamina will not regenerate fast enough.

I have the DLC's and am playing through them now, for the first time.  I recently upgraded my rig so I am playing DS3 on my now-kick-ass machine.  The game is so much better at 60 FPS, makes a huge difference.  I'm not at Ringed City yet, just Ariendel (which, I hear, is the weaker of the two DLCs.)

Mostly I got it so I could fight in the undead arena and school dudes with my Cathedral Knight Greatsword.

Bili: If you start playing DS1 I will make a YouTube series called "Old Souls" and I will walk you and other people through DS1, how does that sound?
All sounds interesting. Should I take the game up I will also take up your offer
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 27, 2017, 07:35:06 AM
Bili, have you looked at Albion Online?

It's basically Eve in a fantasy setting.  They even have killmails!
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Worldtraveller on July 27, 2017, 08:40:31 AM
I've actually been thinking of starting Eve, since I now know a few (dozen) people in game. Might make it tolerable.

I need a good RPG to play. I wish Morrowind was on GoG. I need to figure out what my Steam login is again and see what I have on that account.

I've been playing the hell out of the new Master of Orion, and enjoying it, but it isn't nearly as challenging as the 1 & 2 (I haven't even come close to losing yet).
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 27, 2017, 08:47:55 AM
https://www.gog.com/game/the_elder_scrolls_iii_morrowind_goty_edition
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 27, 2017, 08:50:33 AM
I've actually been thinking of starting Eve, since I now know a few (dozen) people in game. Might make it tolerable.

A lot of sitting around in Eve. I remember waiting hours sometimes for fleets to get ready to go looking for fights. Then the fleet is ready and you spend hours more trying to engage the enemy who just runs away.

What kind of RPG are you looking for?

If you like Elder Scrolls you might want to try Elder Scrolls Online. They made a lot of improvements since launch and it's a much better game now.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 27, 2017, 08:51:40 AM
I've been playing the hell out of the new Master of Orion, and enjoying it, but it isn't nearly as challenging as the 1 & 2 (I haven't even come close to losing yet).

Have you tried Endless Space (1 or 2) or Stellaris?
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Worldtraveller on July 27, 2017, 09:01:04 AM
I've actually been thinking of starting Eve, since I now know a few (dozen) people in game. Might make it tolerable.

A lot of sitting around in Eve. I remember waiting hours sometimes for fleets to get ready to go looking for fights. Then the fleet is ready and you spend hours more trying to engage the enemy who just runs away.

What kind of RPG are you looking for?

If you like Elder Scrolls you might want to try Elder Scrolls Online. They made a lot of improvements since launch and it's a much better game now.

I don't know exactly what I'm looking for, but I'm tired of RTS and 4x for a bit. I love the NWN games, but only played through 1 (and all the expansion campaigns). Is NWN2 enough different to be worth it? What I liked was the character building, mostly because I really like the D&D3.5 system (mostly).

I'd like something that feels a little more first person, but isn't a FPS like Thief. I was watching video gameplay of one of the Morrowind games (not III, I don't think) and I liked the look of it. I want to be able to recruit a whole party of at least 4-6 characters a la Baldur's gate, but don't want to micromanage them.

I've been playing the hell out of the new Master of Orion, and enjoying it, but it isn't nearly as challenging as the 1 & 2 (I haven't even come close to losing yet).

Have you tried Endless Space (1 or 2) or Stellaris?
I've looked at endless space, but the combat system really turned me off (that's the one with 'cards' that determine how the ships fight or something like that?). 

Not familiar with Stellaris, but I have several other 4X type games already in GoG that I haven't played yet. (I can't link to my collection from work.) 
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: tysixtus on July 27, 2017, 12:34:05 PM
I've actually been thinking of starting Eve, since I now know a few (dozen) people in game. Might make it tolerable.

I need a good RPG to play. I wish Morrowind was on GoG. I need to figure out what my Steam login is again and see what I have on that account.

I've been playing the hell out of the new Master of Orion, and enjoying it, but it isn't nearly as challenging as the 1 & 2 (I haven't even come close to losing yet).
Morrowind is on Steam as well.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: tysixtus on July 27, 2017, 12:34:33 PM
I've actually been thinking of starting Eve, since I now know a few (dozen) people in game. Might make it tolerable.

A lot of sitting around in Eve. I remember waiting hours sometimes for fleets to get ready to go looking for fights. Then the fleet is ready and you spend hours more trying to engage the enemy who just runs away.

What kind of RPG are you looking for?

If you like Elder Scrolls you might want to try Elder Scrolls Online. They made a lot of improvements since launch and it's a much better game now.

I'm thinking about getting this.  Should I?  I was in the beta years ago and it was okay, obviously it is much different since the overhaul.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 27, 2017, 12:44:58 PM
I've actually been thinking of starting Eve, since I now know a few (dozen) people in game. Might make it tolerable.

A lot of sitting around in Eve. I remember waiting hours sometimes for fleets to get ready to go looking for fights. Then the fleet is ready and you spend hours more trying to engage the enemy who just runs away.

What kind of RPG are you looking for?

If you like Elder Scrolls you might want to try Elder Scrolls Online. They made a lot of improvements since launch and it's a much better game now.

I'm thinking about getting this.  Should I?  I was in the beta years ago and it was okay, obviously it is much different since the overhaul.
I think you should at least try it out.

I generally rotate between Elder Scrolls Online, FFXIV and The Secret World for my mmo fixes.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 27, 2017, 01:38:11 PM
Oh, another good RPG is Dragon's Dogma available on Steam.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: tysixtus on July 27, 2017, 05:11:16 PM
I've actually been thinking of starting Eve, since I now know a few (dozen) people in game. Might make it tolerable.

A lot of sitting around in Eve. I remember waiting hours sometimes for fleets to get ready to go looking for fights. Then the fleet is ready and you spend hours more trying to engage the enemy who just runs away.

What kind of RPG are you looking for?

If you like Elder Scrolls you might want to try Elder Scrolls Online. They made a lot of improvements since launch and it's a much better game now.

I'm thinking about getting this.  Should I?  I was in the beta years ago and it was okay, obviously it is much different since the overhaul.
I think you should at least try it out.

I generally rotate between Elder Scrolls Online, FFXIV and The Secret World for my mmo fixes.

Are you a subscriber?  Or just doing the free-to-play.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 27, 2017, 06:38:01 PM
I subscribe.  But if I know I'm taking a break to play something else I turn the subscription off.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: tysixtus on July 28, 2017, 06:14:19 AM
Good to know.  It should have installed over night, I will check it out when I get home.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Faid on July 28, 2017, 06:50:54 AM
I've actually been thinking of starting Eve, since I now know a few (dozen) people in game. Might make it tolerable.

I need a good RPG to play. I wish Morrowind was on GoG. I need to figure out what my Steam login is again and see what I have on that account.

I've been playing the hell out of the new Master of Orion, and enjoying it, but it isn't nearly as challenging as the 1 & 2 (I haven't even come close to losing yet).
I keep finding myself trying to like the new MoO. It's not a bad 4x, but it just doesn't have the appeal MoO2 had for me back when. Also, I keep winning on hard without actually doing anything: The only serious threat are the Antarian fleet raids, and you can deal with them quite easily at the cost of only 1 pop.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Faid on July 28, 2017, 06:57:32 AM
Endless Space and Stellaris seem quite complex and time-consuming, but I think I might give one of them a try, just to see if I can catch that old feeling again. I played Galactic Civilizations III a lot, but I spent way more time building dick-shaped spaceships on the ship designer, than actually playing the game.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ffejrxx on July 28, 2017, 07:07:06 AM
did you get endless space when it was $1 on steam?
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: tysixtus on July 28, 2017, 07:13:56 AM
Endless Space and Stellaris seem quite complex and time-consuming, but I think I might give one of them a try, just to see if I can catch that old feeling again. I played Galactic Civilizations III a lot, but I spent way more time building dick-shaped spaceships on the ship designer, than actually playing the game.

Have you ever played Sins of a Solar Empire?
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Bilirubin on July 28, 2017, 10:58:48 AM
Bili, have you looked at Albion Online?

It's basically Eve in a fantasy setting.  They even have killmails!
No
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Faid on July 28, 2017, 01:21:36 PM
Endless Space and Stellaris seem quite complex and time-consuming, but I think I might give one of them a try, just to see if I can catch that old feeling again. I played Galactic Civilizations III a lot, but I spent way more time building dick-shaped spaceships on the ship designer, than actually playing the game.

Have you ever played Sins of a Solar Empire?
Yeah, it's a good game but it's basically an RTS, not a 4X. I never played anything past the starbase and diplomacy DLC, but I'd really love it if it had a campaign mode- Not for gaming reasons (the game worked best in multiplayer), but because it would be really cool to have a story that delved into the characteristics and the history of the various factions. Did they ever make one?

ETA: SoaSS reminded me of an old RTS-In-Space that I had enjoyed: Conquest Frontier Wars. Many of the mechanics were similar, with different types of ships and fighters, and different effects of special weapons. Also you couldn't make huge fleets and you had to think very strategically to get the best out of your ships. It had a well fleshed-out campaign mode, and the gameplay was quite challenging.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Spode on July 28, 2017, 06:04:30 PM
Rimworld (http://store.steampowered.com/app/294100/RimWorld/)

My tribe of lesbian cannibals have bred a mighty herd of Yorkshire Terriers.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Valor on July 29, 2017, 07:26:44 PM
I've actually been thinking of starting Eve, since I now know a few (dozen) people in game. Might make it tolerable.

A lot of sitting around in Eve. I remember waiting hours sometimes for fleets to get ready to go looking for fights. Then the fleet is ready and you spend hours more trying to engage the enemy who just runs away.

What kind of RPG are you looking for?

If you like Elder Scrolls you might want to try Elder Scrolls Online. They made a lot of improvements since launch and it's a much better game now.

I'm thinking about getting this.  Should I?  I was in the beta years ago and it was okay, obviously it is much different since the overhaul.
I think you should at least try it out.

I generally rotate between Elder Scrolls Online, FFXIV and The Secret World for my mmo fixes.

RE: TES Online:

I love playing thieves and assassins on the TES games and Fallout and such - what are the options like on TES Online? I love to lie, cheat, and steal my way to success and I was a big fan of old school Ultima Online and Shadowbane. I know these games these days are carebear land trammel bullshit.

I am willing to pay any price for being an outlaw, that doesn't upset me. Well I mean I guess I am not willing to pay the gold price for goods - only the iron price.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 30, 2017, 11:36:30 AM
I've actually been thinking of starting Eve, since I now know a few (dozen) people in game. Might make it tolerable.

A lot of sitting around in Eve. I remember waiting hours sometimes for fleets to get ready to go looking for fights. Then the fleet is ready and you spend hours more trying to engage the enemy who just runs away.

What kind of RPG are you looking for?

If you like Elder Scrolls you might want to try Elder Scrolls Online. They made a lot of improvements since launch and it's a much better game now.

I'm thinking about getting this.  Should I?  I was in the beta years ago and it was okay, obviously it is much different since the overhaul.
I think you should at least try it out.

I generally rotate between Elder Scrolls Online, FFXIV and The Secret World for my mmo fixes.

RE: TES Online:

I love playing thieves and assassins on the TES games and Fallout and such - what are the options like on TES Online? I love to lie, cheat, and steal my way to success and I was a big fan of old school Ultima Online and Shadowbane. I know these games these days are carebear land trammel bullshit.

I am willing to pay any price for being an outlaw, that doesn't upset me. Well I mean I guess I am not willing to pay the gold price for goods - only the iron price.
Thieves Guild DLC Overview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOtQe1tEYE8

Assassin's Guild Overview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa5R06lA7iE
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Worldtraveller on July 31, 2017, 05:10:11 AM
Endless Space and Stellaris seem quite complex and time-consuming, but I think I might give one of them a try, just to see if I can catch that old feeling again. I played Galactic Civilizations III a lot, but I spent way more time building dick-shaped spaceships on the ship designer, than actually playing the game.

Have you ever played Sins of a Solar Empire?
Yeah, it's a good game but it's basically an RTS, not a 4X. I never played anything past the starbase and diplomacy DLC, but I'd really love it if it had a campaign mode- Not for gaming reasons (the game worked best in multiplayer), but because it would be really cool to have a story that delved into the characteristics and the history of the various factions. Did they ever make one?

ETA: SoaSS reminded me of an old RTS-In-Space that I had enjoyed: Conquest Frontier Wars. Many of the mechanics were similar, with different types of ships and fighters, and different effects of special weapons. Also you couldn't make huge fleets and you had to think very strategically to get the best out of your ships. It had a well fleshed-out campaign mode, and the gameplay was quite challenging.
I really enjoy Conquest: Frontier Wars. I still play it now and then for something different. I like the way the factions all play very differently, much like Starcraft in how different they are.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Valor on July 31, 2017, 05:44:57 AM
I've actually been thinking of starting Eve, since I now know a few (dozen) people in game. Might make it tolerable.

A lot of sitting around in Eve. I remember waiting hours sometimes for fleets to get ready to go looking for fights. Then the fleet is ready and you spend hours more trying to engage the enemy who just runs away.

What kind of RPG are you looking for?

If you like Elder Scrolls you might want to try Elder Scrolls Online. They made a lot of improvements since launch and it's a much better game now.

I'm thinking about getting this.  Should I?  I was in the beta years ago and it was okay, obviously it is much different since the overhaul.
I think you should at least try it out.

I generally rotate between Elder Scrolls Online, FFXIV and The Secret World for my mmo fixes.

RE: TES Online:

I love playing thieves and assassins on the TES games and Fallout and such - what are the options like on TES Online? I love to lie, cheat, and steal my way to success and I was a big fan of old school Ultima Online and Shadowbane. I know these games these days are carebear land trammel bullshit.

I am willing to pay any price for being an outlaw, that doesn't upset me. Well I mean I guess I am not willing to pay the gold price for goods - only the iron price.
Thieves Guild DLC Overview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOtQe1tEYE8

Assassin's Guild Overview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa5R06lA7iE

"Hey let's add the dark brotherhood and thieves guild to TES Online but let's make all that stuff single-player content!"

boring af, fuck that game
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Faid on July 31, 2017, 07:44:15 AM
Endless Space and Stellaris seem quite complex and time-consuming, but I think I might give one of them a try, just to see if I can catch that old feeling again. I played Galactic Civilizations III a lot, but I spent way more time building dick-shaped spaceships on the ship designer, than actually playing the game.

Have you ever played Sins of a Solar Empire?
Yeah, it's a good game but it's basically an RTS, not a 4X. I never played anything past the starbase and diplomacy DLC, but I'd really love it if it had a campaign mode- Not for gaming reasons (the game worked best in multiplayer), but because it would be really cool to have a story that delved into the characteristics and the history of the various factions. Did they ever make one?

ETA: SoaSS reminded me of an old RTS-In-Space that I had enjoyed: Conquest Frontier Wars. Many of the mechanics were similar, with different types of ships and fighters, and different effects of special weapons. Also you couldn't make huge fleets and you had to think very strategically to get the best out of your ships. It had a well fleshed-out campaign mode, and the gameplay was quite challenging.
I really enjoy Conquest: Frontier Wars. I still play it now and then for something different. I like the way the factions all play very differently, much like Starcraft in how different they are.
I couldn't get it to play on my new computer. I tried some tricks I looked up online but nothing worked.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Worldtraveller on July 31, 2017, 08:50:07 AM
Endless Space and Stellaris seem quite complex and time-consuming, but I think I might give one of them a try, just to see if I can catch that old feeling again. I played Galactic Civilizations III a lot, but I spent way more time building dick-shaped spaceships on the ship designer, than actually playing the game.

Have you ever played Sins of a Solar Empire?
Yeah, it's a good game but it's basically an RTS, not a 4X. I never played anything past the starbase and diplomacy DLC, but I'd really love it if it had a campaign mode- Not for gaming reasons (the game worked best in multiplayer), but because it would be really cool to have a story that delved into the characteristics and the history of the various factions. Did they ever make one?

ETA: SoaSS reminded me of an old RTS-In-Space that I had enjoyed: Conquest Frontier Wars. Many of the mechanics were similar, with different types of ships and fighters, and different effects of special weapons. Also you couldn't make huge fleets and you had to think very strategically to get the best out of your ships. It had a well fleshed-out campaign mode, and the gameplay was quite challenging.
I really enjoy Conquest: Frontier Wars. I still play it now and then for something different. I like the way the factions all play very differently, much like Starcraft in how different they are.
I couldn't get it to play on my new computer. I tried some tricks I looked up online but nothing worked.
I'm running it on my old WinXP system that I keep around just for GoG games. :)
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 31, 2017, 09:31:56 AM
Good to know.  It should have installed over night, I will check it out when I get home.
Did you have time to check it out?
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 31, 2017, 09:35:28 AM
Topic: muh pee-vee-pee ruins games and is cancer

Example: Bungies failed attempts to balance pve content around pvp complaints in Destiny 2.  Either be a pve game or a pvp game. Trying to mix the two invariably ends with both modes being shitty.

Discuss.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Worldtraveller on July 31, 2017, 09:54:57 AM
Topic: muh pee-vee-pee ruins games and is cancer

Example: Bungies failed attempts to balance pve content around pvp complaints in Destiny 2.  Either be a pve game or a pvp game. Trying to mix the two invariably ends with both modes being shitty.

Discuss.
The one and only MMO I ever played (Dark Age of Camelot) did a good job, IMO, of blending PvP and PvE. It still wasn't enough for some people, so they made a carebear server with no PvP.

But they also made a 'full' PvP server where your realm didn't matter and you could kill anyone, and group with other realms. This demonstrated how badly some of the classes were balanced, but how well balanced the realms were, by comparison.

I played a couple of stealther characters (that I loved) that were pretty much reviled across the servers, even though they were pretty weak in comparison to most other classes unless everything went right (and they got a little lucky). I had a couple PvE only classes that I used for farming, and just about every class type for PvP, except the pure casters.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: tysixtus on July 31, 2017, 01:58:11 PM
WoW got it right.  But PvP and PvE required different specs, different gear, etc.  They were practically different games, in the end.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Valor on July 31, 2017, 07:12:19 PM
fuck wow
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Valor on July 31, 2017, 07:13:10 PM
you fuckin trammel carebear skinner box bunny bashing baby
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on July 31, 2017, 09:58:32 PM
2edgy4me
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Valor on August 01, 2017, 05:29:47 PM
I am going to kill you for really real in a video game, this is not a joke
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Valor on August 01, 2017, 05:38:02 PM
I will loot your corpse completely as well, and leave you with nothing
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Worldtraveller on August 03, 2017, 06:49:45 AM
I've actually been thinking of starting Eve, since I now know a few (dozen) people in game. Might make it tolerable.

I need a good RPG to play. I wish Morrowind was on GoG. I need to figure out what my Steam login is again and see what I have on that account.

I've been playing the hell out of the new Master of Orion, and enjoying it, but it isn't nearly as challenging as the 1 & 2 (I haven't even come close to losing yet).
I keep finding myself trying to like the new MoO. It's not a bad 4x, but it just doesn't have the appeal MoO2 had for me back when. Also, I keep winning on hard without actually doing anything: The only serious threat are the Antarian fleet raids, and you can deal with them quite easily at the cost of only 1 pop.
It does feel like they've really dumbed down the game and made it way to easy (or the AI just sucks). I haven't tried every race yet, but I'm usually in the lead by about the 200th turn, and it's never a challenge past that. The only challenge I've found is trying to win with a specific win condition, and even that's not too hard. I've won with the council vote, the Antaren invasion (this is probably the easiest), tech victory, and even economic victory.

I might just go play a game of MoO2 again for the challenge.  I've got a couple other 4X games in my GoG account that I might try as well. Galactic Civilizations (3, I think) is one that looks pretty interesting, but it also looks like it has a pretty steep learning curve.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on August 03, 2017, 07:03:44 AM
filthy casuls
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Faid on August 03, 2017, 09:11:00 AM
I've actually been thinking of starting Eve, since I now know a few (dozen) people in game. Might make it tolerable.

I need a good RPG to play. I wish Morrowind was on GoG. I need to figure out what my Steam login is again and see what I have on that account.

I've been playing the hell out of the new Master of Orion, and enjoying it, but it isn't nearly as challenging as the 1 & 2 (I haven't even come close to losing yet).
I keep finding myself trying to like the new MoO. It's not a bad 4x, but it just doesn't have the appeal MoO2 had for me back when. Also, I keep winning on hard without actually doing anything: The only serious threat are the Antarian fleet raids, and you can deal with them quite easily at the cost of only 1 pop.
It does feel like they've really dumbed down the game and made it way to easy (or the AI just sucks). I haven't tried every race yet, but I'm usually in the lead by about the 200th turn, and it's never a challenge past that. The only challenge I've found is trying to win with a specific win condition, and even that's not too hard. I've won with the council vote, the Antaren invasion (this is probably the easiest), tech victory, and even economic victory.

I might just go play a game of MoO2 again for the challenge.  I've got a couple other 4X games in my GoG account that I might try as well. Galactic Civilizations (3, I think) is one that looks pretty interesting, but it also looks like it has a pretty steep learning curve.
I still play MoO2 occasionaly through DOSbox. Old habits die hard.
CalCiv III was not much to speak of IMO. The best part was the ship designer, which helped you make some pretty cool spaceships. The game itself was a bit tedious, however. The typical colony grab in the first turns, then a tech race while building more and more and more constructors to upgrade your starbases. space and ground combat are fairly abstract, as is often expected, but spying and diplomacy are also quite simplistic.
I hear that the Crusade expansion has done a major overhaul of the whole gameplay and it's pretty innovative this time, so it might be worth checking.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on August 03, 2017, 11:02:09 AM
Any of you guys try out the Anno games?  I was thinking of picking up 2070 next time it goes on sale.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ffejrxx on August 03, 2017, 12:40:15 PM
for tabletop games this one looks like fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYM2OEBZcJk
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Faid on August 03, 2017, 01:18:21 PM
Any of you guys try out the Anno games?  I was thinking of picking up 2070 next time it goes on sale.
I haven't tried any of them. I think they are more like the old Caesar-type games, where you basically try to have a well-ordered city with all needs met and access to resources- That kind of thing.

I still remember the fun times I had playing Sid Meyer's Alpha Centauri. It almost felt like reading a whole series of sci-fi novels.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Faid on August 03, 2017, 01:26:22 PM
for tabletop games this one looks like fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYM2OEBZcJk
Back in my student days, me and another 5-6 friends had formed a really hardcore board game group. No D&D or RPGs in general, but lots of the old classics: Diplomacy, Kingmaker, even Avalon Hill's classic Civilization. These days, one of the old gang has hand-crafted a lovely wooden Diplomacy Board, with all the armies and fleets, and once or twice a year we meet for drinks and a session that often leads well into the next morning.

ETA: Also Small World is pretty fun! I've only played it once but I enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Faid on August 03, 2017, 01:35:45 PM
Also, I was looking for tabletop space-themed 4X games, but most seemed too complex for me these days (not to mention expensive). I read, however, that the boardgame version of Space Empires (the old computer game series that ended ingloriously wth the spreadsheet nightmare that was SEV) is pretty good, and relatively cheap. I might give it a try as well, if I can convince the others to join me.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Worldtraveller on August 04, 2017, 11:45:06 AM
for tabletop games this one looks like fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYM2OEBZcJk
It's tons of fun with the right group. I love bluffing games, and games with hidden roles too, which have a lot of the similar elements.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Worldtraveller on August 04, 2017, 11:49:08 AM
Also, I was looking for tabletop space-themed 4X games, but most seemed too complex for me these days (not to mention expensive). I read, however, that the boardgame version of Space Empires (the old computer game series that ended ingloriously wth the spreadsheet nightmare that was SEV) is pretty good, and relatively cheap. I might give it a try as well, if I can convince the others to join me.
Eclipse is a good tabletop 4X. It strikes a good balance between not running too long (it typically plays in 3-4 hours with 5 people), and still including all the best elements of 4X. I like Twilight Imperium (1st edition), but it's more like an 8 - 10 hour commitment.
There is a new version of Avalon Hill's Civilization out too. It's called MegaCivlization, and it is epic!! Up to 18 players, and they added, and fixed a lot of the civ advances to be much better balanced.We'll be running a game here probably next weekend (I think we'll get 8-9 players).
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on August 07, 2017, 08:11:21 PM
Oh great, microtransactions in a full price single player rpg. Too bad, Shadow Of War was looking pretty good to me.

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/08/07/middle-earth-shadow-of-war-details-microtransactions/

This bullshit needs to stop.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Bilirubin on August 07, 2017, 08:48:40 PM
Finished New Vegas for the NCR, may reset and then do the Wild Card ending, but will wander the wasteland for a while first because I have seen precious little of the desert so far (only unlocked like 50 areas)
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Pavlovs Dog on August 08, 2017, 07:05:18 AM
I just started pillars of eternity.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: vivisectus on August 08, 2017, 07:39:39 AM
Mordheim - city of the damned

Really cool little conversion of a Games Workshop tabletop classic into a turn-based game in the style of Xcom - enemy unknown. You can tell the many nerd-hours that have gone into balancing the rules out as a tabletop: there are not a lot of combinations that will become too overpowered... or do not have some way of getting unexpectedly counteracted.

You have to skirmish against rival warhammer fantasy warbands in an abandoned, comet-blasted city to gather wyrdstone, trying to find a balance between winning the battle and gathering enough crystals to pay off your sponsors ever increasing demands for the stuff. You can also exchange the stuff for money - and you need lots of it, as your soldiers will not fight if they do not get paid (and die of injuries if you cannot afford treatment).

Getting a character knocked down can result in that character being benched for a few battles, or various permanent injuries - including lost eyes, limbs, or (most hillariously, and frustratingly) permanent mental problems. Nothing like watching your fancy Ogre mercenary fail one stupidity check after another and just stand there drooling as your opponent Rat-ogres all your carefully trained footsoldiers to death!

A few niggles though: the interface is not exactly intuitive when you play on a console, and the AI seems to have trouble pathing sometimes. The music gets a bit repetitive too.

But I like how there is no saving and loading: if you mess up and your favorite characters get mangled, then they stay mangled. And as a result you will have to play a bunch of missions as a serious underdog as you try to drag your warband out of a negative spiral where you have too little money to field a full team, and are therefor being hard-pressed to gather the excess stone and loot you need to make ends meet. The need to train new skills also makes things interestingly difficult: giving your main tank some nice perks will mean putting them in to training for ages... and you will still have to do missions to keep up. The number of spots on the bench are limited, so you will have to try to cycle them through strategically and hope like hell your replacement does not get injured.

Recommended for anyone who enjoys loot-whoring, min-maxing roleplaying characters, turn based tactical strategy games like Xcom, and masochism.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on August 08, 2017, 07:40:08 AM
I just started pillars of eternity.

Me too! It was in August's monthly Humble Bundle.

I'm not that far into it yet but it's been pretty fun so far.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on August 08, 2017, 07:42:29 AM
I also redownloaded Warframe in preparation for their open world expansion in September and also to get a Destiny fix before Destiny 2's PC release in October.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: the idea of Harambe on August 08, 2017, 07:44:11 AM
I just started pillars of eternity.

Me too! It was in August's monthly Humble Bundle.

I'm not that far into it yet but it's been pretty fun so far.
i need to go back and finish that game
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: tysixtus on August 10, 2017, 10:20:36 AM
I just started pillars of eternity.
It's a fucking great game!
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Pavlovs Dog on August 10, 2017, 10:42:32 AM
I picked a cipher without knowing what it is just to try something different.  I'm not sure I'm doing it right.  It is going to take some experimenting.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: tysixtus on August 10, 2017, 10:54:10 AM
I picked a cipher without knowing what it is just to try something different.  I'm not sure I'm doing it right.  It is going to take some experimenting.

They are cool classes, but they are best played when you have already kinda learned the games' mechanics and systems.  You'll do just fine, but if you want a more straightforward approach, you can't go wrong with Paladins, Fighters, Rangers, or Rogues.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: the idea of Harambe on August 10, 2017, 11:07:09 AM
Is Cipher the mind control one? They fucking own. Paladins in this game are also really cool.

eta: Pro Tip, there is no story NPC rogue so be sure to hire one in the hiring hall so you have someone who can be dedicated to thief shit! or you could max (iiec) mechanics on the MC for trap detection, the most critical thief skill function, but that might be difficult depending on build.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Pavlovs Dog on August 10, 2017, 11:11:44 AM
Yeah, they do mental attacks and what not.  When I read the description it sounded kinda magey so I rolled accordingly, put almost everything into intellect, dexterity, perception, and might, etc.  But I did not realize that they need to physically cause damage to be able to use their cipher attacks, so I'm not sure if I'm supposed to armor for front line fighting or what.  I'm not sure what the hit mechanics are with respect to heavy armor for damage reduction vs. light or no armor for dodging.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on August 10, 2017, 11:55:36 AM
I ended up rolling a Paladin on easy mode in order to get a feel for how the game works before trying something harder.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: tysixtus on August 10, 2017, 12:08:13 PM
Yeah, they do mental attacks and what not.  When I read the description it sounded kinda magey so I rolled accordingly, put almost everything into intellect, dexterity, perception, and might, etc.  But I did not realize that they need to physically cause damage to be able to use their cipher attacks, so I'm not sure if I'm supposed to armor for front line fighting or what.  I'm not sure what the hit mechanics are with respect to heavy armor for damage reduction vs. light or no armor for dodging.

The thing about PoE is that stats don't work like DnD.  Might, for example, influences all damage, by everybody.  Mages' spell power is determined by might, not intellect (intellect determines the area-of-effect size for spells and abilities, and duration). 

https://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Attribute

It is kind of counter-intuitive, especially after decades of being trained to think that mages need intellect, warriors need strength, etc.  But they made it so that all attributes are equally important to each class, it just depends on how you want to play them.  You can have a high might mage with very low intellect, and he will do a shitload of damage with this spells, but they will have a short duration and AOE spells will be very small. Alternatively, you could have a low might fighter with high intellect, who will do low damage but his abilities will cover a wide area and his status effects will have a much longer duration.

ETA: Cyphers need to be micromanaged, because you're right in that you need to get hits in to build your meter.  One alternative is using ranged weapons, like a blunderbuss.  They allow you to build your meter insanely fast (because each pellet counts as a "hit"), and then you can let loose with your abilities.  Alternatively, you can play like a rogue, and take abilities that let you disengage without penalties.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: the idea of Harambe on August 10, 2017, 12:13:50 PM
iirc speed/dex/agility/whatever reduces ability cooldown, making it the godstat
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: tysixtus on August 10, 2017, 12:33:48 PM
iirc speed/dex/agility/whatever reduces ability cooldown, making it the godstat

Ehhh, kind of.  There's not really cooldowns, though there are interrupts/delays when  you switch weapons or grimoires.  Most abilities are just per-encounter or per-rest.  Agility does increase action speed, though, which let's you more attacks, cast spells faster, etc.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Pavlovs Dog on August 10, 2017, 12:33:57 PM
I think my might, intellect, perception, and dexterity are all around 15 or 16.  I did a quick skim of a guide that said those were important for ciphers but didn't delve into why.  I think they suggested moving constitution and some other thing (resolve) down to 3 and putting everything into those four, but that seemed a little extreme.  I lowered them to around 8.  I am probably too weak to try a front line approach.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: tysixtus on August 10, 2017, 01:57:14 PM
Yeah, resolve and con are the tanking attributes, in the absence of knockdowns and other crowd control abilities that fighters get.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: brugroffil on August 10, 2017, 04:17:14 PM
been playing a lot of stardew valley in my downtime at work
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: brugroffil on August 10, 2017, 04:17:48 PM
PoE was really fun but combat got to be a bit of a chore after awhile
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: the idea of Harambe on August 10, 2017, 04:20:25 PM
been playing a lot of stardew valley in my downtime at work

oh man this game owns

another one i started making mods for and then stopped playing lol  :smith:
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Bilirubin on August 10, 2017, 05:48:51 PM
Finished New Vegas for the NCR, before I play the other endings and wander the wasteland more I am playing through Half Life 2. So far its recognizably Half Life but with better graphics. Had fun shoving shoes and hats at my fellow travellers
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: teeming brown mass on August 10, 2017, 05:58:03 PM
did you pick up the can when ordered to by the fascist nazi posthuman guard?
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Bilirubin on August 10, 2017, 06:43:03 PM
Don't recall being told do so no?

Other than my budddy guard, we shared cans
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Pavlovs Dog on August 10, 2017, 06:56:07 PM
Half life 2 is one of the best five games of all time
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Pavlovs Dog on August 10, 2017, 06:57:22 PM
How are you just now playing it?
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: teeming brown mass on August 10, 2017, 08:30:26 PM
Don't recall being told do so no?

Other than my budddy guard, we shared cans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJshjMyg6no
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: tysixtus on August 11, 2017, 07:23:50 AM
Half life 2 is one of the best five games of all time

What are your top 5?  Here's mine, not ranked:

1) Baldur's Gate 2
2) Deus Ex
3) Morrowind
4) Dark Souls
5) WoW (original version before they ruined it)
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Pavlovs Dog on August 11, 2017, 07:46:38 AM
I am not going to try to rank them.  I'm not even sure if I can narrow it to 5.  But off the top of my head, here are a few I  would have to think harder about.  I am going to cheat by just making the TES and Fallout series each one game.

Half-life 2
The Last of Us
Mass Effect 2
Pirates!
Myst
Fallout Series
TES Series
Baldur's Gate 2
Diablo II
Deus Ex
Rainbow Six Series

One of these is a joke.

I have a hard time figuring out where to put stuff that also has the greatness of nostalgia.  I guess Baldur's Gate 2 can be a stand-in for all the gold box games.  It is kind of a culmination every RPG made up until that point, including console RPGS like FF2 and Phantasy Star 2.  Some old games, like Pirates, still have to be considered.  That game was unbelievable.  No idea what to do with all the Sierra-style adventure games I played forever.

eta I would say that the two I am most sure of are Half-Life 2 and Last of Us, though.  Shadow of the Colossus should also probably be up there somewhere.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: tysixtus on August 11, 2017, 10:26:23 AM
I think the last time we did this listing, mine has changed.  Or not?  If you ask me in a six months I might have a different list.

Is ME2 the joke?
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: meepmeep on August 11, 2017, 10:35:56 AM
It's obviously Myst.

Come on, even I know that.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Pavlovs Dog on August 11, 2017, 11:04:30 AM
Your wife is correct.

Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: tysixtus on August 11, 2017, 11:05:49 AM
I dunno, I could see you playing Myst.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: teeming brown mass on August 11, 2017, 11:07:40 AM
"what the fuck am I supposed to be doing. the fuck is this dumb book shit, whoever made this dumb game should be sued" - PD, probably
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Pavlovs Dog on August 11, 2017, 11:55:22 AM
I believe I played it
I dunno, I could
I dunno, I could see you playing Myst.

Come on man. That game was an insult to video game players.  My friends' moms played myst.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Bilirubin on August 11, 2017, 02:22:05 PM
How are you just now playing it?
Haven't had huge amounts of time the past number of years and when I have I am a bit of a one game at a time sort that then plays the hell out of it. I played the original Quake through the end of Quake3Arena's live span, for example, until they shut down the good servers. And the past few years I have been grinding SW:TOR/EVE/WoW vOv

I mean I have had it in my Steam Library for years and have played Portal already so

Of course  I haven't even finished the original Baldurs Gate yet, should get back to it someday soon I guess
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Faid on August 11, 2017, 02:26:55 PM
Also, I was looking for tabletop space-themed 4X games, but most seemed too complex for me these days (not to mention expensive). I read, however, that the boardgame version of Space Empires (the old computer game series that ended ingloriously wth the spreadsheet nightmare that was SEV) is pretty good, and relatively cheap. I might give it a try as well, if I can convince the others to join me.
Eclipse is a good tabletop 4X. It strikes a good balance between not running too long (it typically plays in 3-4 hours with 5 people), and still including all the best elements of 4X. I like Twilight Imperium (1st edition), but it's more like an 8 - 10 hour commitment.
There is a new version of Avalon Hill's Civilization out too. It's called MegaCivlization, and it is epic!! Up to 18 players, and they added, and fixed a lot of the civ advances to be much better balanced.We'll be running a game here probably next weekend (I think we'll get 8-9 players).
Oh boy. I REALLY wanna play that. IS there an online version?
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Faid on August 11, 2017, 02:36:31 PM
I just started pillars of eternity.
It's a fucking great game!
OK, the inevitable question- How does it score from 1 to BGII?
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Pavlovs Dog on August 11, 2017, 03:31:18 PM
I believe I played it
I dunno, I could
I dunno, I could see you playing Myst.

Come on man. That game was an insult to video game players.  My friends' moms played myst.

What the hell happened to this quote
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on August 11, 2017, 04:06:44 PM
We should be steam friends.

Steam id: theriouthly
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: teeming brown mass on August 11, 2017, 06:37:34 PM
I'd steamfriend you but then you'd know how much borderlands 2 I play
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Bilirubin on August 11, 2017, 07:03:08 PM
Does it rival my 1600 hours or whatever of EVE:Online?
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: teeming brown mass on August 11, 2017, 07:15:41 PM
Just checked. I'm at 245 hours. Mother of god,
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on August 11, 2017, 07:57:00 PM
Just downloaded Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice.

Should be good!
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ffejrxx on August 11, 2017, 10:42:32 PM
3700 hours of portal2
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: tysixtus on August 13, 2017, 07:39:40 AM
I just started pillars of eternity.
It's a fucking great game!
OK, the inevitable question- How does it score from 1 to BGII?

It is on the same level of BGII, in my opinion, but it is different.

BGII was, to me, the epitome of all of the many games that had come before it in the Forgotten Realms universe.  They somehow managed to cram the feeling of a real DnD campaign into that game, with all of ADnD's complexity in tact (at least, as far as is possible in a video game).  When I look back at BGII, I think "Okay, there will never be a DnD ruleset-based game that will be better than this," I think that's still true. The art, the music, the voice acting, the story, and everything else just came together there.  But, I also think nostalgia did a lot of heavy lifting.

When it comes to PoE, I think the Obsidian guys made a better, more mechanically sound game system.  I love me some BGII, but ADnD 2nd Edition was an absolute goddamn mess of 25+ years of rules, at that point.  That, plus BGII had 3rd edition stuff tacked onto it (sorcerers, for example) because they were anticipating allowing players to port their characters into Neverwinter Nights, the first 3rd edition game (and in fact, you might recall that in BGII, there was a loading screen message about this very thing).  This never happened because of NWN's development, but they were thinking about it.

Anyway, PoE has a better set of rules and mechanics.  The engagement mechanic is a great idea, and the sheer number of player specializations is reason enough to play through the game several times.  They also fixed one of the most glaring problems with BGII, which was the rest system.  In BGII, you could rest almost anywhere, at any time, thereby making spell/ability management and health almost irrelevant.  The whole point of the Vancian magic system was to make players treat magic spells as a precious resource, which BGII just obliterated.  You could use your mage's most powerful spells, rest, and use them again immediately in the next battle.  At higher levels, this becomes game breaking. Instead of surviving dungeons, you just survive fights.  PoE fixes that with a pretty cool rest/resource management system.

Also, the voice acting is great (Durance is a great example of how to write an asshole well), the art is terrific, hard counters are kept to a minimum, and the story is pretty good even if it is not earth-shattering.  The music is great as well.

So, I'd say it is on the same level of BGII, but the only disadvantage it might have in a direct comparison is the lack of nostalgia, of a previously built world.  There's a difference between visiting a world you know well (Forgotten Realms) and visiting a new one (PoE).  One is not better, just a different. I think how you feel about the game will in large part depend which of those two you like better.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: the idea of Harambe on August 13, 2017, 07:43:30 AM
my least favorite part of PoE is that it has vancian casting at all tbh
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Bilirubin on August 13, 2017, 09:39:29 AM
Just checked. I'm at 245 hours. Mother of god,
Pft think I have more than that in L4D2
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on August 13, 2017, 10:46:40 PM
Just downloaded Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice.

Should be good!
Finished this a few minutes ago.

Amazing game. Well worth the $30 and an awesome example of AA game development and what devs can do when they eschew AAA publishers.

Ninja Theory deserves support for this imo.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: MikeS on August 14, 2017, 05:51:21 AM
Is there a computer Traveller game yet?  I want to roll characters for 5 hours only for them to be killed.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Worldtraveller on August 14, 2017, 06:09:04 AM
Is there a computer Traveller game yet?  I want to roll characters for 5 hours only for them to be killed.
Glad to know I'm not the only Traveller fan here.

EVE online? I mean, if you wander into the wrong area, you'll be killed pretty quickly, from what I understand.

Also, rolling characters in Traveller is not a 5 hour ordeal. It rarely takes more than one....less if you die during character creation. :D
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: MikeS on August 14, 2017, 06:15:10 AM
Is there a computer Traveller game yet?  I want to roll characters for 5 hours only for them to be killed.
Glad to know I'm not the only Traveller fan here.

EVE online? I mean, if you wander into the wrong area, you'll be killed pretty quickly, from what I understand.

Also, rolling characters in Traveller is not a 5 hour ordeal. It rarely takes more than one....less if you die during character creation. :D
It takes 5 hours to FINALLY roll a character that survives character creation.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Worldtraveller on August 14, 2017, 06:19:00 AM
I think dice must hate you more than me. The fun alternative is to use Traveller Mongoose rules. Then you only get 'Mishaps' and not necessarily outright death.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: MikeS on August 14, 2017, 06:20:53 AM
It's good to know I'm not the only old, geek nerd out there.  My physical library of AD&D is actually pretty epic, I have almost all the "letter" adventure packs.  Then I collected a bunch of I.C.E stuff in the early '80s when they got the rights to publish the Middle Earth adventures.

(http://www.waynesbooks.com/images/graphics/campaignadventureguidebookeditions.jpg)

I started the D&D adventures on an old Commodore 128 with 5-1/4" floppies.  Days on end with that stuff.

That and a whole library of Avalon Hill and SPI board games means that my retirement community center will be stocked well for midnight war game meetings.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Worldtraveller on August 14, 2017, 07:10:33 AM
I still have the first 'blue book' version of D&D (two copies, I think), and pretty much everything in 1st Ed. (AD&D), 2nd ed. , most of the 3rd/3.5 hardcover books. I don't know how many modules, but the last time I packed them all, the box would be equivalent to a stack about 3 feet tall. :)  ...and almost a complete collection of Dragon magazines from #24 on (I have a few issues prior to that, with my oldest being Issue #7), through somewhere in the 400s. I think they switched to entirely digital after that, and were about to release 4th edition when I stopped collecting them.

I have around 100 boardgames. A few 'hardcore' war games, and lots of other types of games. Do you have a profile on bgg with your collection? :D  I'll have to post mine when I get home (can't get to bgg from work).

I'm trying to arrange a boardgame day with some people I know here from the local boardgame group to run a game of MegaCivilization, but I'm still trying to find at least 7 more players.

ETA: Also, have you seen Traveller T5? It's a serious nerd's game. The pages and pages of statistical tables for various combinations of d6s alone is nuts. :D
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: brugroffil on August 14, 2017, 09:10:28 AM
Ty do you still have the TR character sheets you made? those were amazing.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: tysixtus on August 14, 2017, 10:00:52 AM
They're on photobucket, which no longer allows sharing unless i upgrade my account, which I sure as hell will not do.  i have to port them over to imgur.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: MikeS on August 14, 2017, 10:12:16 AM
I still have the first 'blue book' version of D&D (two copies, I think), and pretty much everything in 1st Ed. (AD&D), 2nd ed. , most of the 3rd/3.5 hardcover books. I don't know how many modules, but the last time I packed them all, the box would be equivalent to a stack about 3 feet tall. :)  ...and almost a complete collection of Dragon magazines from #24 on (I have a few issues prior to that, with my oldest being Issue #7), through somewhere in the 400s. I think they switched to entirely digital after that, and were about to release 4th edition when I stopped collecting them.

I have around 100 boardgames. A few 'hardcore' war games, and lots of other types of games. Do you have a profile on bgg with your collection? :D  I'll have to post mine when I get home (can't get to bgg from work).

I'm trying to arrange a boardgame day with some people I know here from the local boardgame group to run a game of MegaCivilization, but I'm still trying to find at least 7 more players.

ETA: Also, have you seen Traveller T5? It's a serious nerd's game. The pages and pages of statistical tables for various combinations of d6s alone is nuts. :D
I gave up my AD&D book collecting at around 12 since actually playing the game with this massive library as reference tended to slow up the game itself.  We actually defaulted back to D&D basic rules for about a year to simplify the experience and limit the type of "rule play" that some adventures ended up.  Kind of like how Squad Leader got bogged down in rules after a while.

But I've been too busy with work and travel at the moment, but I'll "settle down" over the next year and get this stuff inventoried.

I saw Traveller T5 come out but didn't get into it.  Most of the table-top and group stuff ended in the early '90s for me and I haven't actively pursued this since computer gaming came around.

What's interesting with the I.C.E publications, Tolkien's business was in a slump in the early '80s.  They had made the animated movie "The Hobbit" but it wasn't a monetary hit.  These adventure packs were the first post-book productions that Tolkien allowed after the publishing of The Silmarillion.  Then the whole fantasy books rage and Comicon and other avenues opened up, ending up with Peter Jackson's movies.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Worldtraveller on August 14, 2017, 10:24:28 AM
Is there a computer Traveller game yet?  I want to roll characters for 5 hours only for them to be killed.
BTW, there's an online Traveller Character Generator (http://www.munsondev.com/chargen/) based strictly on the 'Little Black Book' (i.e. 1st edition) that can be a fun 'push your luck' type game in itself to see if you can roll a character that survives a full 5 terms. :D
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Faid on August 14, 2017, 10:51:23 AM
What's interesting with the I.C.E publications, Tolkien's business was in a slump in the early '80s.  They had made the animated movie "The Hobbit" but it wasn't a monetary hit.  These adventure packs were the first post-book productions that Tolkien allowed after the publishing of The Silmarillion.  Then the whole fantasy books rage and Comicon and other avenues opened up, ending up with Peter Jackson's movies.
1987 in Greece, and I had to look in the weirdest places for Tolkien's books. Everyone, even stores supposedly specializing in sci-fi/fantasy were like "JRR Who?". I eventually bought The Silmarillion brom a publishing house that specialized in Socialist literature, and brought in many books from the ol' USSR (Apparently, Russians used Tolkien to teach their children English back then, go figure). I bet that print would be worth a lot if I still had it today :(

(Ralph Bakshi's film sucked IMO.)
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ravenscape on August 14, 2017, 11:23:38 AM
A post was moved to a new thread. (http://talkrational.org/index.php/topic,1496.0.html)
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Brother Daniel on August 14, 2017, 12:19:33 PM
It's good to know I'm not the only old, geek nerd out there.
Another old gaming nerd here.  Started with wargames (specifically those in SPI's S&T magazines) in 1978.  Branched into many other kinds of games after that.
Quote from: MikeS
That and a whole library of Avalon Hill and SPI board games means that my retirement community center will be stocked well for midnight war game meetings.
:fistbump:
I hope I'll still be able to see well enough to deal with all those little counters.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Worldtraveller on August 14, 2017, 02:08:20 PM
I need to get some grognards together and run a game of Flat Top (by email). So much more fun to do with a refereed game and double blind movement.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Brother Daniel on August 14, 2017, 06:03:10 PM
That sounds like tremendous fun.  Unfortunately, my life circumstances at the moment don't really allow me to join in.  :(
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Faid on August 15, 2017, 01:16:20 AM
Can anyone recommend a good old-time naval warfare game? I Had played Wooden Ships and Iron Men back in the day, but I found it a bit frustrating to follow.

I also had fun playing GW's Man O' War in the nineties. It had some serious balancing problems, some fleets were way overpowered, and a sudden change of the wind (if you used sailboats) or an unlucky dice roll could completely destroy your plans. But being somewhat broken is what made it fun IMO.
I still remember a game where I was playing against a friend, who had begun a Dark Elf campaign. It was the first battle scenario, so I was basically expected to lose. I had a Dwarf fleet that was worth 500 pts less, and was scattered and out of formation. I launched a clockwork torpedo at his Black Ark of Naggaroth with my little Nautilus sub, rolled two consecutive sixes, and the Black Ark went down along with half his monster fleet.
Well it was fun for me.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Worldtraveller on August 15, 2017, 08:28:48 AM
Old time naval wargame? How old? Sailing ships? I just recently found my copy of Wooden Ships and Iron Men again, but haven't had a chance to play. BGG has a good wargame sub-page with lots of stuff (that I can't check from work :(  ).
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on August 15, 2017, 09:21:53 AM
Can anyone recommend a good old-time naval warfare game?
Believe it or not, Assassin's Creed IV.

Ship combat was legit.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Faid on August 15, 2017, 09:25:13 AM
Old time naval wargame? How old? Sailing ships? I just recently found my copy of Wooden Ships and Iron Men again, but haven't had a chance to play. BGG has a good wargame sub-page with lots of stuff (that I can't check from work :(  ).
Yeah, Age of sail. I doubt I could get into WS&IM today, since I wasn't really into it in my 20s.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Faid on August 15, 2017, 09:31:22 AM
Can anyone recommend a good old-time naval warfare game?
Believe it or not, Assassin's Creed IV.

Ship combat was legit.
Can't they just release the ship combat part?
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on August 15, 2017, 09:35:40 AM
Can anyone recommend a good old-time naval warfare game?
Believe it or not, Assassin's Creed IV.

Ship combat was legit.
Can't they just release the ship combat part?
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-06-22-ubisofts-pirate-ship-game-skull-and-bones-has-a-narrative-campaign-too

But in typical AAA publisher style Ubisoft will probably fuck it up with microtransaction bullshit. In Ass Creed IV I don't think they expected people to play just to sail around the seas fighting other ships rather than continuing the story. But now that they know how popular it was look for them to try and squeeze every last nickel and dime out of the "fun".
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Worldtraveller on August 15, 2017, 11:54:21 AM
There are some good boardgames that cover that era, but the combat is usually abstracted out as a couple of roles, and the game is either a pirate game or a merchant game with pirating as an option.

Hand in the Sea (I think is the right title) looks like a very interesting wargame. It's 2 player only, based on the naval battles of the Peloponesian era.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on August 15, 2017, 03:41:00 PM
In honor of our comrades in Charlottesville I have started playing Wolfenstein: The New Order.

Shit is sooooooo satisfying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6BUBAu-wOQ
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Brother Daniel on August 15, 2017, 05:17:17 PM
Old time naval wargame? How old? Sailing ships? I just recently found my copy of Wooden Ships and Iron Men again, but haven't had a chance to play. BGG has a good wargame sub-page with lots of stuff (that I can't check from work :(  ).
Yeah, Age of sail. I doubt I could get into WS&IM today, since I wasn't really into it in my 20s.
I played SPI's "Fighting Sail" a few times, aeons ago.  I honestly don't remember whether it was good.  I never played WS&IM, so I couldn't compare them even if my memory was better.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: MikeS on August 15, 2017, 06:20:00 PM
Ship combat in Empire: Total War is actually pretty well balanced.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Worldtraveller on August 15, 2017, 07:37:16 PM
I was close:  https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/136955/hands-sea

It's a card game, though, so not really a war game.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Brother Daniel on August 25, 2017, 06:37:45 AM
Recently got into D&D (5th edition) with my daughters.  TG (age 10) thinks it's really cool.  Turns out she has some talent (more than I do, anyway) for DMing -- in particular, the "making shit up on the spot" part of it.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Worldtraveller on August 25, 2017, 09:17:52 AM
I'm not really a fan of 5th edition, although it's a huge improvement over 4th, which was an absolute travesty to play. I like 3.5, with some house rules. 

These days, I've converted all my stuff to Fantasy Hero, and my Traveller game to Hero system as well.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Brother Daniel on August 25, 2017, 10:23:37 AM
I never touched 3rd or 3.5 or 4th.  (Just never got around to it.)  I played a very little bit of 2nd ed, but never really learned it properly.  So I can really only compare 5th ed to the old AD&D (1st ed), which I played a lot circa 1980-82.  And I'd say 5th ed is an improvement over that.  (Better reward-to-effort ratio.  The rules are simpler, but only because they're more internally consistent and cohesive, not because there's any narrowing of scope.  I can't think of anything of value that has been lost.)

Re 4th ed:  Yeah, I've heard others say that it sucked.  Just out of idle curiosity, what were the main problems with it, in your view?
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: the idea of Harambe on August 25, 2017, 11:43:36 AM
actually 4th edition owned.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Brother Daniel on August 25, 2017, 12:28:46 PM
Just dug this up from Zombie TR (a post from 2012):
Quote from: fleet-footed Urban Youth
4e has some pretty clear flaws but i love the hell out of it for creating such a masterfully intricate and balanced tactical combat system. that's also a flaw, because so much weight it put into that aspect of the game that it swallows up 90% of play time.

none of 4e's flaws have anything to do with being "tabletop WoW." the only things 4e has taken from MMOs are undeniable improvements, like mechanically solidifying character class roles to ensure balance and allow every player to have an impact. no classes overshadow others. there are no system mastery pitfalls. you will never be BMX bandit to the caster's angel summoner. "tabletop WoW" is the sort of thing you hear from bitter grognards :crai: ing into their neckbeards about how wi$$$ards of the co$t have betrayed them and gygax's ghost.

yo check it, 3.5 can be fun in its own way, and you can still play it! in fact, paizo has been kind enough to continue developing it under the name "pathfinder" and older editions are still around and have the support of their dedicated enthusiasts and their retroclones. sometimes i feel this mindset creep into my own thoughts when i worry if 5e is going to bring back all the unbalanced suck of older editions to lure its fans back, then i realize that this is as dumb as being attached to a gaming platform or a mobile phone maker because who the fuck cares when some company does, if i ever have the opportunity to play these fucking games again my group can still play 4e if we want
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Worldtraveller on August 25, 2017, 02:31:55 PM
D&D was never about 'balanced classes', though. That's a big part of why a lot of old time (I've been playing D&D since before it was AD&D) hated it so much. Classes were reasonably balanced, but in a different way, in the previous (and now 5th) editions of D&D. They were balanced in the sense that early on, the fighters/warriors were the powerhouses of the party, and later, wizards tend to dominate...until they run out of spells.

4th made it play more like a MMO, with most abilities for wizards being available every encounter, but with no real game mechanic to explain (in an RP way) why that was. It made the RP aspect into tabletop WoW. And it turned combat into more of a boardgame (like fucking Advanced Squad leader, with a lot of bad 'gamey' elements that broke an unbalanced combat in worse ways than the older editions) in and of itself and really bogged down the whole game. Rp pretty much went out the window as players min/maxed even worse than they did with 3.5.

HERO takes the complexity and frontloads it. Characters can take a long time to create (but let's be real, it's not that much worse than most editions from 2nd D&D on), but everything becomes built around a rule framework that's internally consistent AND balanced because it's point based, and the HERO system has been around for a long time so the points really balance out well.

It's also a great system for playing Traveller (even better, IMO, than fantasy) or similar space opera type setting.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Brother Daniel on August 25, 2017, 02:51:09 PM
fucking Advanced Squad Leader
I don't think I should admit how much $ I sank into that stuff...
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: MikeS on August 25, 2017, 03:56:49 PM
fucking Advanced Squad Leader
I don't think I should admit how much $ I sank into that stuff...
I was first in line for all the original Squad Leader expansions, and also have some interesting add on scenarios (100s and 200s series, official sanctioned) along with quite a few game convention creation sets.  I started buying the ASL books and chits but it was taking too long to publish.  But I have all the originals arranged and seperated, I could break out a game if given the 2-4 hours prequal to read all the rules again.   :sadcheer:
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Brother Daniel on August 25, 2017, 05:58:10 PM
I have SL + the 3 big expansions.  Also the ASL rule book + all 12 core modules and a handful of other sets (as well as several of the "ASL Annuals").  Way too much.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ravenscape on August 26, 2017, 12:19:31 PM
I need some advice on a game that might work well for someone with failing mental faculties.

She's in her 80s and suffers from some memory loss, gets confused easily if she tries to do more than one thing at a time, and gets anxious about both issues.

She used to play pretty complex card games, but in recent years can't handle much besides skip bo.

Her handwriting is still beautiful and she goes through a daily spreadsheet (printed) to make sure she's taken all her medications and completed all her self-care.  Without the spreadsheet, she can't remember what's she's already done and what she still needs to do.

Anyway, I'm not sure that a board game or card game would actually be a good idea or if it would just stress her out, but I kinda want to try something simple and see how it goes.

2-6 players would be nice, though if she enjoys it, it would probably be 2-3 players most of the time.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Brother Daniel on August 26, 2017, 01:52:47 PM
I asked my daughters.

TG first suggested Sleeping Queens.  Very simple, 99.9% luck-based, low stress.  There's a bit of simple arithmetic in it.  (Specifically, if you have cards in your hand with numbers on them, you can discard a bunch of them at a time if you can make an addition statement out of it.  E.g., you can dump a 2, a 3, an 8, and a 9, all together, because 2+9 = 3+8.)

Then she thought of Set.  That might not work if visual perception is a problem.  But at least it isn't taxing on the memory.  You have to be able to spot patterns in cards that have been laid out.  It could be good or bad, depending on the precise nature of the mental degradation.

I just thought of Incan Gold.  Very easy.  Essentially you're playing chicken against a bunch of cards.  Your decisions are all binary ones, of the nature of "should I stay or should I go".
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ravenscape on August 26, 2017, 03:25:30 PM
Thanks!  I'll probably try at least one of these next month and will let you and TG know how it goes.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: MikeS on August 26, 2017, 05:41:46 PM
Thanks!  I'll probably try at least one of these next month and will let you and TG know how it goes.
Older card games like Cribbage, Hearts, Whist, etc. are challanging enough with 2-4 players.  Backgammon too.  An air force deployment always had a game of Hearts or Spades going wee into the morning.

Another excellent board game is Rummy Royal (or Tripolay), a combination of poker, hearts and michigan rummy for 3 to 6 players.  We play all the time on vacations.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/g/JHcAAOSwc1FXaKwm/s-l225.jpg)
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on August 30, 2017, 11:22:19 AM
I'm still playing some Wolfenstein and I was wondering how hard do you think it would be to change Deathshead's name to "Richard Spencer"?
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on August 31, 2017, 08:25:21 AM
I installed Playerunknown's Battleground last night so my son's friend could use my computer to play some matches.

After he left I gave it a try.  I'm not sure what all the hype is about yet.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Faid on August 31, 2017, 08:37:47 AM
I suppose it's all about the multiplayer.

On the other hand, I tried The Long Dark yesterday (which is single-player sandbox) and got totally hooked. I think I'll buy it and find some time to play more.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ffejrxx on September 12, 2017, 05:57:56 PM
Also, I was looking for tabletop space-themed 4X games, but most seemed too complex for me these days (not to mention expensive). I read, however, that the boardgame version of Space Empires (the old computer game series that ended ingloriously wth the spreadsheet nightmare that was SEV) is pretty good, and relatively cheap. I might give it a try as well, if I can convince the others to join me.
i have solarquest '87ver , lots of fun, similar to monopoly but with a few twists and lazer beans
we would play with red-hots, when shot the target player would have to eat a handful of them

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solarquest
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Pavlovs Dog on September 27, 2017, 09:41:40 AM
I'm about halfway through Pillars of Eternity now.  It basically is BGIII with slightly different mechanics and in a different world.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ffejrxx on September 27, 2017, 02:22:10 PM
guitar hero live for ps4/xbone/wiiu is on clearance for $20+tax at in target stores

fun, but full of crap
must play thru the tutorial
ghtv is like mtv from the 80-90s play songs that are on, start/stop anytime earn points to unlock other crap
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on September 28, 2017, 07:19:08 AM
https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/9/28/16360680/destiny-2-video-game-blockbuster-story

Long, generally positive, article about Destiny 2.

I don't know how the author used so many words without touching on the Eververse microtransaction store and how it impacts the game.

I played a little bit of Destiny on the PS4 but I don't like playing FPS on the console. I am hyped to play Destiny 2 on the PC next month.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on September 28, 2017, 07:28:58 AM
Anyone want to chat about the state of modern AAA gaming?

How AAA publishers, not necessarily developers, are pushing the worst parts of the mobile f2p economies onto fully priced AAA games?

Or about how loot crates serve as nice introduction to gambling for teenagers or younger? Opening loot crates is kind of fun but that's what, imo, makes them so insidious. You used to be able to unlock items just through playing the game and accomplishing certain achievements. Now these extra items have been sliced off and placed behind a loot crate system which is basically gambling. It wouldn't be nearly as terrible if you could just buy the extra items. As it is now if there's an item you'd really like to have you have to open loot crates to get it and there's no guarantee you'll ever get the item you want without plunking down hundreds or even thousands of dollars.

Egregious modern examples:

Overwatch
Shadow of War
NBA 2k18

At some point these publishers, I'm looking at you Warner Bros, EA and Activision, are going to invite government regulation into their loot box gambling systems that prey on the same addictions that gambling addicts have.

And I know I'm going to end up buying Shadow of War because I really liked Shadow of Mordor and I will hate myself for doing it.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Pavlovs Dog on September 28, 2017, 07:29:54 AM
No.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on September 28, 2017, 07:31:08 AM
Yes you do.

You're a lawyer and you're exactly whose opinion I'd like to hear about loot crates and online gambling.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: MikeS on September 28, 2017, 08:01:10 AM
I didn't know the American Automobile Association created and published games.

"The more you know."
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Valor on September 28, 2017, 10:22:08 AM
I am planning on getting Legends of Aria.

It's basically Ultima Online. For some reason these past few months I've been wanting to do UO but I am not that interested in player shards.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: teeming brown mass on September 29, 2017, 09:56:47 AM
Anyone want to chat about the state of modern AAA gaming?

How AAA publishers, not necessarily developers, are pushing the worst parts of the mobile f2p economies onto fully priced AAA games?

Or about how loot crates serve as nice introduction to gambling for teenagers or younger? Opening loot crates is kind of fun but that's what, imo, makes them so insidious. You used to be able to unlock items just through playing the game and accomplishing certain achievements. Now these extra items have been sliced off and placed behind a loot crate system which is basically gambling. It wouldn't be nearly as terrible if you could just buy the extra items. As it is now if there's an item you'd really like to have you have to open loot crates to get it and there's no guarantee you'll ever get the item you want without plunking down hundreds or even thousands of dollars.

Egregious modern examples:

Overwatch
Shadow of War
NBA 2k18

At some point these publishers, I'm looking at you Warner Bros, EA and Activision, are going to invite government regulation into their loot box gambling systems that prey on the same addictions that gambling addicts have.

And I know I'm going to end up buying Shadow of War because I really liked Shadow of Mordor and I will hate myself for doing it.

Overwatch loot crates don't affect gameplay though. At all.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on September 29, 2017, 11:30:10 AM
Overwatch loot crates don't affect gameplay though. At all.

I didn't say they did.

I'm arguing that they're marketing gambling to kids and that the real cash loot crate system has no place in a full price game. It's manipulative and shitty.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: teeming brown mass on September 30, 2017, 06:57:02 AM
is it marketing gambling to kids?  Just seems like a randomized reward when you're played the game for long enough.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: teeming brown mass on September 30, 2017, 06:57:15 AM
like e.g. random gear drops.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: PeppermintButler on October 07, 2017, 07:43:35 AM
Pillars of Eternity on PS4. They did a good job converting to controller. Only a few small complaints, mostly involving selecting and distinguishing characters during combat.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Pavlovs Dog on October 07, 2017, 07:54:17 AM
I did not realize it had been ported.  I don't think I could give up the keyboard/mouse setup for this kind of game though.  It is ideal.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: PeppermintButler on October 07, 2017, 02:45:34 PM
I debated that but went with the comfort factor of laying on the couch with the big screen.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Bilirubin on October 07, 2017, 07:33:45 PM
Man this endless airboat level is getting annoying
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: teeming brown mass on October 07, 2017, 08:08:20 PM
Man this endless airboat level is getting annoying

airboat level is pretty short. you gotta be doing something wrong.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Bilirubin on October 08, 2017, 09:03:03 PM
airboat level sucked so I kept quitting was the problem.

Playing with the gravity gun now. Might never use another gun again flinging metal hooks and cinder blocks is so much fun
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Bilirubin on October 08, 2017, 09:03:37 PM
(final fight with the airboat was fun enough I guess)
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on October 09, 2017, 09:35:48 AM
is it marketing gambling to kids?  Just seems like a randomized reward when you're played the game for long enough.

Yes, it's marketing gambling systems to kids.

http://www.pcgamer.com/behind-the-addictive-psychology-and-seductive-art-of-loot-boxes/

Publishers are abusing the same psychological tricks that casinos use to get people addicted.

If you as an adult love rng loot crates in games more power to you. But if they're included in a game it should get a M or AO rating to at least make parents aware of what's included in the game they are buying for their kids.

Activision-Blizzard earned $3.6 billion in in-game revenue for 2016. (https://www.polygon.com/2017/2/9/14568722/activision-blizzard-2016-earnings-record)  $2.08 billion of that $3.6 billion came from in-game transactions of existing sales, i.e. Overwatch loot crates, COD supply drops and WoW pets.

That's a lot of money from in-game transactions. How much of that is from kids under 18?

Gambling addiction is a real thing and the current loot crate set-up in modern AAA games is preying on the same dopamine-induced high that casinos prey on to get their customers to keep coming back for just one more pull of the lever.

And like I said before if publishers want to put those predatory systems in a game then don't market it to kids. And if the publishers can't control themselves then regulation should be enacted to stop them.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: teeming brown mass on October 09, 2017, 10:02:04 AM
tbh I could give a shit about loot boxes
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: PeppermintButler on October 09, 2017, 02:22:33 PM
That's why your name is not ksen
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Valor on October 09, 2017, 06:27:32 PM
I don't have any games rated AO :sadcheer:
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on October 18, 2017, 09:05:13 AM
Whew, this is an expensive month!

Picked up Shadow of War, which is really fun so far. Loot box mechanics haven't been intrusive at all so far. Plus the nemesis system can be really fun.

Started the new South Park game last night. I plan on playing a black, trans female.

Evil Within 2 came out which I still need to get.

Destiny 2 is out next week.

Assassin's Creed: Origins and Wolfenstein 2 are still coming out as well.
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Post by: ksen on October 18, 2017, 09:12:35 AM
In gaming news Activision just received a patent (http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&RefSrch=yes&Query=PN/9789406) on a new way to drive microtransaction purchases. Didn't think it was possible for them to become bigger pieces of shit but here we are.

Also the UK Parliament has to comment on loot crate mechanics due to a petition on the subject reaching over 10,000 signatures.

http://metro.co.uk/2017/10/16/labour-mp-submits-loot-box-questions-to-parliament-as-petition-passes-10000-7002809/

Quote
The two questions are recorded on the official Parliamentary website, and the first asks what steps Bradley plans to take, 'to help protect vulnerable adults and children from illegal gambling, in-game gambling and loot boxes within computer games.'

The second question revolves around the Isle of Man's unusually strict laws surrounding gambling and in-app purchases, which makes them the only place in the world to explicitly protect against abuses relating to in-game currency.

Be interesting to see what happens if a market like the UK forces an "AO" or "M" rating on games containing randmozied loot box mechanics.
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Post by: ksen on October 23, 2017, 07:03:28 AM
Gamergate II incoming!

http://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/news/neogaf-offline-amidst-sex-assault-allegations-against-owner-w509871

/pol/ is assembling the banners.
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Post by: ksen on October 30, 2017, 01:26:00 PM
Finished Wolfenstein: The New Blood last night. That game is so cathartic.

Probably pick up W: The Old Blood and start on that pretty soon.

Other gaming highlights:

Started playing Assassin's Creed: Origins - Gorgeous game. Combat is different than the other games and is taking some getting used to. Guards are way more observant this iteration.

Reached level cap in Destiny 2 and am finishing up the story line. Tried one of the strikes, their version of a MMO dungeon, and it was pretty fun. Did some PvP just to finish the quest that opened them. I may do some more but I generally stay away from PvP because I have more fun in PvE content.

Shadow of War, despite the hooplah around some people not liking the idea of enslaving orcs, is pretty fun and I find great joy in breaking the minds of Sauron's foot soldiers.
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Post by: tysixtus on October 31, 2017, 07:57:18 AM
I finished Evil Within 2 (quite a good game!) and then fired Diablo 3 back up again.  It is almost unrecognizable to me as a game. I love Blizzard, but holy shit they always do this. Over several years, they end up changing the game so much that it feels like a completely new one -- which is okay, in some cases, but in others it just fucks me up.
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Post by: ksen on October 31, 2017, 08:37:40 AM
I got the first Evil Within game as a christmas present and have only played it about an hour so far. Did you play that one too?

I enjoyed the new necromancer class in Diablo 3. It was pretty fun running around with an undead army at my back.
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Post by: tysixtus on October 31, 2017, 09:01:44 AM
I got the first Evil Within game as a christmas present and have only played it about an hour so far. Did you play that one too?

I enjoyed the new necromancer class in Diablo 3. It was pretty fun running around with an undead army at my back.

Never played the first one.  The second one wasn't "scary" but I liked it a lot. The dialog was awful and the plot was unclear but, well, Japanese games . . .

I tend not to get scared by scary movies and/or video games.  They don't anything for me that way, so I can't comment on the effectiveness.  But it was definitely a good stealth/shooter game.  Enemy design was great.

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Post by: ksen on November 01, 2017, 08:21:48 AM
Paris games week just ended recently and apparently a couple of trailers shown by Sony is causing a bit of a stir.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/gaming/news/playstations-jim-ryan-defends-last-us-2-trailer-game-made-adults/

The trailers were for The Last of Us 2 and Detroit: Become Human.

Last of Us 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXUPpxA32Og

Detroit: Become Human
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtPmIBqRwQU

Personally I agree with the Sony exec that there should be a space for adult games for adult players. Especially given that the average age of a game player is 35 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_culture#Demographics).

But I can see the point being made by some critics at the Paris show that Sony should have at least given out some sort of warning that what they were about to show contained extreme and disturbing content.
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Post by: PeppermintButler on November 09, 2017, 02:26:53 PM
Shadow of War has been awesome but then againso was SoM
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Post by: ksen on November 22, 2017, 07:11:52 AM
https://www.engadget.com/2017/11/22/belgium-moves-to-ban-star-wars-battlefront-2-style-loot-boxes/

Belgium decides random loot crates purchased for real money are a form of gambling and therefore should not be sold to children. They are going to push for an EU-wide ban.

Hawaiian lawmakers are also looking into the issue and are in discussion with other states as well.

This is probably the best thing to come out of the EA Star Wars Battlefront II fiasco.
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Post by: meepmeep on November 26, 2017, 04:34:58 PM
I finally started playing Stardew Valley.

Vet school was fun while it lasted.
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Post by: laughing dog on November 26, 2017, 04:38:46 PM
I still enjoy Call of Duty I, II and World at War.  
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Post by: the idea of Harambe on November 26, 2017, 05:36:57 PM
I finally started playing Stardew Valley.

Vet school was fun while it lasted.

keep us posted on your waifu/husbando potential assessments pls
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Post by: meepmeep on November 26, 2017, 07:23:18 PM
the ladies look more promising than the fellas

i mean, really, the alcoholic d-bag who's always mean to me sounds like quite the catch or perhaps the complaining whining doctor with the pedo moustache or the stupid rude jock or the dumb hippie with the long hair who ~*~*~*lives on the beach*~*~*~ .

abigail the blue haired girl said at one of the town events that she doesn't like socializing and was therefore staring at the ocean and i was like  <3
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Post by: the idea of Harambe on November 26, 2017, 07:29:27 PM
yeah the dudes are overall an unimpressive lot. however the football guy (alex iirc?) has surprising depths in as much as a game like this can give characters depth.

abagail is just way too focus group tested as nerdbait imo
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Post by: meepmeep on November 26, 2017, 07:44:07 PM
your mom is focus group tested nerdbait

anyway, let's be real, i want a character who is going to fucking get to work on my farm
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Post by: tysixtus on November 27, 2017, 11:03:33 AM
your mom is focus group tested nerdbait

anyway, let's be real, i want a character who is going to fucking get to work on my farm

Sounds like you need a man. :smug:

ETA: Though as I said before, you should get gay married if that's what you want.  Just find a dude and string him along into the friendzone. Then hand him a pick axe.
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Post by: ffejrxx on November 27, 2017, 05:04:37 PM
http://store.steampowered.com/app/448510/Overcooked/
with 4 friends sharing 2 controllers is hilarious
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Post by: tysixtus on November 28, 2017, 08:37:21 AM
I still enjoy Call of Duty I, II and World at War.  

I like that you like Call of Duty.
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Post by: tysixtus on November 28, 2017, 09:02:56 AM
I am playing Yakuza 0, it is fucking awesome. Peak Japanese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg1DxItA8pE
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Post by: tysixtus on November 28, 2017, 09:03:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ2AZhbji6M
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Post by: meepmeep on November 28, 2017, 12:51:01 PM
your mom is focus group tested nerdbait

anyway, let's be real, i want a character who is going to fucking get to work on my farm

Sounds like you need a man. :smug:

ETA: Though as I said before, you should get gay married if that's what you want.  Just find a dude and string him along into the friendzone. Then hand him a pick axe.

Okay, I will hand him a pick axe in his skull. :mason:

I enjoy a challenge, so I'm going after the alcoholic sad sack who is good at taking care of the farm animals.
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Post by: the idea of Harambe on November 28, 2017, 12:55:51 PM
btw it's objectively correct that leah is the best waifu
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Post by: tysixtus on November 29, 2017, 03:33:37 AM
your mom is focus group tested nerdbait

anyway, let's be real, i want a character who is going to fucking get to work on my farm

Sounds like you need a man. :smug:

ETA: Though as I said before, you should get gay married if that's what you want.  Just find a dude and string him along into the friendzone. Then hand him a pick axe.

Okay, I will hand him a pick axe in his skull. :mason:

I enjoy a challenge, so I'm going after the alcoholic sad sack who is good at taking care of the farm animals.

And you said you didn't misss me . . .
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Post by: PeppermintButler on December 07, 2017, 11:20:59 AM
my wife got me a switch and BotW, but they're wrapped and under the tree and i have to wait till Xmas
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Post by: ksen on December 07, 2017, 11:31:47 AM
kill her and start playing now
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Post by: PeppermintButler on December 13, 2017, 11:28:17 AM
:hmm:
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Post by: Bilirubin on December 15, 2017, 12:52:30 PM
Probably just going to wait for winter Steam sale and get Doom a little late and steeply discounted as I do.

Meanwhile its double XP/CXP time on SW:TOR so see ya
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Post by: ksen on December 18, 2017, 06:34:09 AM
nu-Doom was fun.

I've been binging Europa Universalis IV. After about 700 hours the gameplay is starting to click and I've having one of my best runs in the game. Started as France and I now own all of England, other than two provinces in Wales, nearly all of Castille, Denmark, Berlin, Genoa, southern Italy, Vienna, the Balkans, the Crimea and my crowning achievement so far is removing Kebab (the Ottomans) from the game. I need to own Moscow to complete the achievement I'm going for and there's about 120 years left to play so I'm on track.

Other than that I played What Remains of Edith Finch and it was fantastic. It's a walking simulator and only took around 3 hours to finish but it was amazing the way they told Edith's story. I cried at the end because I'm a big baby.

Anyone else ever play anything that had them crying at the end? It's happened to me a few times. The first was Final Fantasy X.
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Post by: Pavlovs Dog on December 18, 2017, 07:16:57 AM
The Last of Us had a couple moments for sure. 
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Post by: ksen on December 18, 2017, 09:11:02 AM
I want to finish the Last of Us but I got stuck in a part where I keep getting killed by the zombies and I put it down for awhile.

I just know it will get me in the end.

I like games with an emotional ending. They feel so cathartic when it's over.

Oh, Senua's Sacrifice was another good one. It's only about 8 to 10 hours long but worth every penny imo.

eta: To the Moon was great as well.
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Post by: Pavlovs Dog on December 18, 2017, 09:49:07 AM
Which part?
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Post by: ksen on December 18, 2017, 11:35:41 AM
It's towards the beginning, so embarassing, and I'm playing as Joel. I have Ellie and we already made it past where we escaped from all the government guy and now I'm in a run down apartment building(?) and I need to sneak by a lot of zombies but I keep getting spotted and swarmed and killed.

I should just keep trying and I'll get it eventually because I really do want to finish this especially with Last of Us 2 coming soon.
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Post by: Pavlovs Dog on December 18, 2017, 11:37:35 AM
Yeah that is pretty early.
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Post by: ksen on December 18, 2017, 11:42:47 AM
:sadyes:
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Post by: Valor on December 18, 2017, 12:09:24 PM
is that before or after Joel gets bitten?
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Post by: ksen on December 18, 2017, 12:33:45 PM
you son of a bitch
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Post by: Patronus Potter on December 18, 2017, 12:59:30 PM
Anyone else ever play anything that had them crying at the end? It's happened to me a few times.

Yes, Civilization V when the AI started poaching my city states with a string of extremely improbably coup attempts
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Post by: tysixtus on December 18, 2017, 05:18:31 PM
you son of a bitch

Joel doesn't get bitten, Bart is trolling you.

Also, you are pretty early.  Get good, scrubbo.   What difficulty level do you have it at?  You could always drop it down.
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Post by: Pavlovs Dog on December 18, 2017, 07:00:33 PM
Well, you could drop down the difficulty if you want to live in shame the rest of your life.

There are a few parts early on where the difficulty spikes higher than the curve and you kinda figure out what's what. One that comes to mind is when you are in a hotel or museum and drop down through a hole in the floor by yourself and there are 6 or 8 infected wandering around a few rooms and you have to watch patrol patterns, use shivs and chokes at the right time, etc.  I wonder if that's the part he is at.
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Post by: Valor on December 19, 2017, 07:13:48 AM
you son of a bitch

Joel doesn't get bitten, Bart is trolling you.

I am pretty sure ksen knows this as he mentioned he wanted to finish the game before The Last of Us 2 comes out, and presumably ksen would understand it's hard to be in a sequel if you die in the original.

Also I am not Bart.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: ksen on December 19, 2017, 08:02:12 AM
Well, you could drop down the difficulty if you want to live in shame the rest of your life.

There are a few parts early on where the difficulty spikes higher than the curve and you kinda figure out what's what. One that comes to mind is when you are in a hotel or museum and drop down through a hole in the floor by yourself and there are 6 or 8 infected wandering around a few rooms and you have to watch patrol patterns, use shivs and chokes at the right time, etc.  I wonder if that's the part he is at.

That sounds like the part.

I'm gonna put it in tonight and try some more.
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Post by: Pavlovs Dog on December 19, 2017, 08:07:48 AM
You can always find a writeup on parts like that.  There were a couple parts that I was not happy with how I got through them so sometimes I would replay them based on others' methods and it was still more satisfying than dropping difficulty.

Also my experience with one of the dragons in Pillars of Eternity.  When I first stumbled upon it I just went in with what I had and came really close.  I think it took me 45 minutes to die.  I did not want that to happen again.
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Post by: ksen on December 19, 2017, 09:21:50 AM
Yeah, I don't like dropping difficulty because it feels like I'm admitting the game won or that I'm cheating somehow.

I'll keep re-doing that mission until I pass it.
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Post by: ksen on December 19, 2017, 09:23:57 AM
Oh man, have you guys seen the teaser for From Software's new game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJPSdgZ3HkE
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Post by: Faid on December 19, 2017, 11:34:38 AM
What is that supposed to be?
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Post by: ksen on December 19, 2017, 11:36:08 AM
 :itsamystery:
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Post by: tysixtus on December 19, 2017, 12:30:54 PM
Oh man, have you guys seen the teaser for From Software's new game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJPSdgZ3HkE

YES I HAVE THANKS FOR ASKING

I have a feeling it is a new Tenchu game.  It is not a Dark Souls or Bloodborne.  There is a Japanese flute, Japanese arrow, etc.   Plus they have a long history with the franchise, having released a bunch of PSP/Nintendo DS titles under it.
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Post by: ksen on December 20, 2017, 08:16:27 AM
Yeah, I don't like dropping difficulty because it feels like I'm admitting the game won or that I'm cheating somehow.

I'll keep re-doing that mission until I pass it.

I got through the area finally. I died a couple of times while trying to remember the controls but after that I just took my time and got through the clickers. The only problem I almost had was running out of shivs but it ended up working out.

Now I'm at the part where Tess leaves and I'm trying to escape the building with Ellie and a bunch of soldiers are hunting us.
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Post by: ksen on December 20, 2017, 08:17:21 AM
Oh man, have you guys seen the teaser for From Software's new game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJPSdgZ3HkE

YES I HAVE THANKS FOR ASKING

I have a feeling it is a new Tenchu game.  It is not a Dark Souls or Bloodborne.  There is a Japanese flute, Japanese arrow, etc.  Plus they have a long history with the franchise, having released a bunch of PSP/Nintendo DS titles under it.

A LOT of people want it to be Bloodborne 2 with a Japanese setting but the consensus I've read is it's probably Tenchu.
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Post by: Pavlovs Dog on December 20, 2017, 08:29:56 AM
Yeah, I don't like dropping difficulty because it feels like I'm admitting the game won or that I'm cheating somehow.

I'll keep re-doing that mission until I pass it.

I got through the area finally. I died a couple of times while trying to remember the controls but after that I just took my time and got through the clickers. The only problem I almost had was running out of shivs but it ended up working out.

Now I'm at the part where Tess leaves and I'm trying to escape the building with Ellie and a bunch of soldiers are hunting us.

"Leaves"

That part is actually a pretty good stealth primer.  At least with human enemies every single one can be choked out and you don't have to worry about clickers.
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Post by: ksen on December 20, 2017, 08:44:15 AM
After the initial clicker area I was in the museum where there were 3 or 4 clickers in a small area. I bashed one to death with a stick before I knew how many were in the other rooms and got swarmed and killed. So next try I hit the first one with a molotov and the rest ran into the fire and burned to death. That was fun.

Yeah, Tess "leaves" . . . didn't want to get too spoilery. ;)

eta: I like the stealth now that I've remembered what button puts me in stealth mode.
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Post by: ksen on December 20, 2017, 08:46:55 AM
Oh, we bought our first 4k tv and I got it home yesterday. Even on my original PS4 the game gave me an HDR option and it looks great.

Now, I just need to get that PS4 Pro for full upscaling to 4k HDR.
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Post by: tysixtus on December 20, 2017, 09:27:55 AM
After the initial clicker area I was in the museum where there were 3 or 4 clickers in a small area. I bashed one to death with a stick before I knew how many were in the other rooms and got swarmed and killed. So next try I hit the first one with a molotov and the rest ran into the fire and burned to death. That was fun.

Yeah, Tess "leaves" . . . didn't want to get too spoilery. ;)

eta: I like the stealth now that I've remembered what button puts me in stealth mode.

One thing to remember -- even though they don't call this out in the game -- is that you can use a brick to kill clickers.  Select the brick as a weapon and do a regular melee attack.  Joel will attack with the brick in his hand and if you keep attacking, you'll bash the clicker's head in.  It works in a pinch if you have no shivs or clubs.
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Post by: Pavlovs Dog on December 20, 2017, 09:44:00 AM
Yeah, I think you have to be close enough for the stealth option to pop up. 
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Post by: ksen on December 20, 2017, 10:23:07 AM
I saw that in game somewhere. I'll try to remember to always keep a brick on me because there seems to be bricks and bottles laying around everywhere.

Oh, any gun upgrading advice? Do you find any stats must haves? I usually focus on loading speed and magazine capacity first.
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Post by: Pavlovs Dog on December 20, 2017, 10:26:41 AM
I pretty much upgraded everything with the pistol, hunting rifle, shotgun, and bow.  Magazine capacity is fairly important so you don't leave any ammo behind.
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Post by: Valor on December 20, 2017, 10:49:47 AM
iirc Davlovs Dog is right, those are only weapons in stealth attacks, and your bottle or brick gets broken.

I would usually keep one handy anyway for distractions though
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Post by: tysixtus on December 20, 2017, 10:53:11 AM
I saw that in game somewhere. I'll try to remember to always keep a brick on me because there seems to be bricks and bottles laying around everywhere.

Oh, any gun upgrading advice? Do you find any stats must haves? I usually focus on loading speed and magazine capacity first.

It depends on how you play.  Pick one handgun and upgrade it, and upgrade the shotgun as high as you can get it because it is OP'd and will absolutely wreck things.  If you care about long-distance stealth, the bow is the sensible choice but to be honest, I never felt like I needed to care about long-distance stealth.  There are a few points in the game where you are forced to fight and stealth is not an option.  So, be ready to rumble.
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Post by: Pavlovs Dog on December 20, 2017, 10:58:50 AM
The bow was pretty useful in a lot of situations.  Even in the bigger fight setpieces (e.g., the big plaza with all the shops, hotel, etc. where Ellie snipes from the balcony), it was great for taking out certain enemies ahead of time, even for shorter distance stuff where you were holed up in cover.
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Post by: tysixtus on December 21, 2017, 10:40:55 AM
The bow was pretty useful in a lot of situations.  Even in the bigger fight setpieces (e.g., the big plaza with all the shops, hotel, etc. where Ellie snipes from the balcony), it was great for taking out certain enemies ahead of time, even for shorter distance stuff where you were holed up in cover.

As I recall, they are useless on bloaters.  Those fights were the worst, and come down to shitty enemy design.  It is the only complaint I have with regards to the game.  Those guys are just bullet sponges, hence the shotgun and Molotovs.
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Post by: PeppermintButler on December 21, 2017, 11:16:02 AM
I saw that in game somewhere. I'll try to remember to always keep a brick on me because there seems to be bricks and bottles laying around everywhere.

Oh, any gun upgrading advice? Do you find any stats must haves? I usually focus on loading speed and magazine capacity first.

save your supplements for health and weapon sway upgrades first
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Post by: ksen on December 21, 2017, 11:28:33 AM
I almost have enough for the health upgrade. I am saving to get that first.
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Post by: ksen on December 21, 2017, 11:30:23 AM
I gave my wife my PS4 christmas list:

Yakuza 0
Uncharted collection up through a Thief's End
Until Dawn
Dying Light

In other news looks like the Steam winter sale has started. Early reports are that GOG's sale is better.
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Post by: Pavlovs Dog on December 21, 2017, 12:07:06 PM
The bow was pretty useful in a lot of situations.  Even in the bigger fight setpieces (e.g., the big plaza with all the shops, hotel, etc. where Ellie snipes from the balcony), it was great for taking out certain enemies ahead of time, even for shorter distance stuff where you were holed up in cover.

As I recall, they are useless on bloaters.  Those fights were the worst, and come down to shitty enemy design.  It is the only complaint I have with regards to the game.  Those guys are just bullet sponges, hence the shotgun and Molotovs.

I agree you should not use the bow on the three bloaters you encounter in the game.
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Post by: PeppermintButler on December 21, 2017, 12:08:09 PM
especially given you only have to fight one
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Post by: Pavlovs Dog on December 21, 2017, 12:18:10 PM
Well, I was exaggerating obviously.  I think I fought 3 directly, including one I could've avoided but he was a sitting duck and I had a flamethrower.  Then I blew up another three in the carmageddon tunnel in a giant fireball of infected.
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Post by: tysixtus on December 26, 2017, 01:39:30 PM
The bow was pretty useful in a lot of situations.  Even in the bigger fight setpieces (e.g., the big plaza with all the shops, hotel, etc. where Ellie snipes from the balcony), it was great for taking out certain enemies ahead of time, even for shorter distance stuff where you were holed up in cover.

As I recall, they are useless on bloaters.  Those fights were the worst, and come down to shitty enemy design.  It is the only complaint I have with regards to the game.  Those guys are just bullet sponges, hence the shotgun and Molotovs.

I agree you should not use the bow on the three bloaters you encounter in the game.

You're just scared of guns.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on December 27, 2017, 07:01:59 AM
I did fight my first bloater and I used guns, nail bombs, bricks, bottles, molotovs but not the bow.
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Post by: ksen on December 27, 2017, 07:05:39 AM
Ended up getting a few PS4 games:

Yakuza 0
Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection
Uncharted 4
Until Dawn
Dying Light

Yakuza 0 reminds me a lot of Dynasty Warriors for some reason. Maybe it's the menus? Was it made by the same people? I haven't checked.

I put in the first Uncharted which obviously looks like an upscaled PS3 game but is fun so far. Also started Until Dawn which is very pretty and plays a lot like Heavy Rain.
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Post by: ksen on December 27, 2017, 07:07:50 AM
One more thing:

I finally finished my France campaign in Europa Universalis IV. Ended up reforming the Roman Empire and had all of Europe and part of Scandinavia under my control. I played until the 1821 end date just to get the achievement for playing that far into the timeline. But god it started to feel like a regular job towards the end. Glad it's over.
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Post by: tysixtus on December 27, 2017, 08:39:28 AM
Yakuza 0 is awesome.
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Post by: ksen on December 27, 2017, 08:57:29 AM
What I've played so far has been fun.

Needs more early 80s Chow-Yun-Fat though.
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Post by: Martin.au on December 27, 2017, 07:52:48 PM
I just found Endless Sky. It's Escape Velocity all over again. :D
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Post by: PeppermintButler on January 04, 2018, 10:01:30 AM
Been playing the shit out of Zelda breath of the wild. Fun cutsy open world with fun puzzles. Biggest complaints are technical game design

1. Weapon durability has got to go in all games
2. For christsake, always have an option for text speed
3. If you're going to make a crafting heavy game, don't require an animation everytime you craft, even if  it's skippable
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on January 04, 2018, 11:25:26 AM
I got my wife Breath of the Wild for her Wii-U and tried it out. As soon as my first weapon broke after about 4 hits I was out.

It's an ok game I guess but I have no idea, other than it being a new Zelda game, why it got the praise it did. I found Horizon Zero Dawn to be a much better and fun game . . . at least for me.
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Post by: Fenrir on January 04, 2018, 03:07:13 PM
Blackwake.

Arrrrh!
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Patronus Potter on January 05, 2018, 09:04:09 AM
As a 30 year Zelda fan I give BOTW a 9 out of 10. Durability and crafting were not the problems. The problem is they created a huge, amazing game world but not enough game to fill it. It's great because of the exploration and for a few transcendent moments, like riding the snout of a huge stone elephant high above a mountain lake. But the main quest needed to be twice as long and it needed more side content in general.
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Post by: PeppermintButler on January 05, 2018, 06:21:24 PM
Stfu, weapon durability is terrible. It can be somewhat reasonable, but come on, every enemy dropping weapons because you never know when yours is going to break?
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Post by: PeppermintButler on January 05, 2018, 06:23:03 PM
Oh yeah ksen, dying light has weapon durability as well, not as bad as zelda, but you're still wtf, why did this metal pipe break? Other than that still a fun game, just never go at night, or use the look behind camera when you're running at night
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Post by: Patronus Potter on January 06, 2018, 03:54:33 AM
They should have made it so you could kill the Stalfos with the Master Sword in one hit and not have to target they're heads
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on January 08, 2018, 06:05:03 AM
I finished Evil Within 2 over the weekend. Very enjoyable and the first half had some pretty scary/creepy parts. The second half not so much since by that time you had a full loadout and while you still needed to be careful with your ammo you didn't have to be that careful.

Probably the scariest part for me was the singing ghost lady you couldn't fight but you only had to deal with her in a few parts of the game.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: PeppermintButler on January 11, 2018, 06:24:18 AM
I got my wife Breath of the Wild for her Wii-U and tried it out. As soon as my first weapon broke after about 4 hits I was out.

It's an ok game I guess but I have no idea, other than it being a new Zelda game, why it got the praise it did. I found Horizon Zero Dawn to be a much better and fun game . . . at least for me.

Have you tried the dlc for Horizon? I want to, but I'm way overpowered now with my current play and don't want to breeze through it, otoh I don't want to start a new playthrough
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: PeppermintButler on January 11, 2018, 06:24:46 AM
Anyone play RE7?
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on January 11, 2018, 06:43:32 AM
I got my wife Breath of the Wild for her Wii-U and tried it out. As soon as my first weapon broke after about 4 hits I was out.

It's an ok game I guess but I have no idea, other than it being a new Zelda game, why it got the praise it did. I found Horizon Zero Dawn to be a much better and fun game . . . at least for me.

Have you tried the dlc for Horizon? I want to, but I'm way overpowered now with my current play and don't want to breeze through it, otoh I don't want to start a new playthrough

No, I haven't tried the dlc yet. I'm still working my way through the main game.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on January 11, 2018, 06:45:40 AM
Anyone play RE7?

Yep. I played the PC version. Overall I liked it. It is closer in tone and playstyle to the older RE games which I appreciated.

My only beef was some of the "boss" fights felt too scripted.

Performance wise it looked great and ran smooth on my PC.
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Post by: Martin.au on January 11, 2018, 07:00:16 AM
Arma 3 now. I think I've been looking for this game for a long time. Takes me back to the days of ghost recon.
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Post by: PeppermintButler on January 11, 2018, 09:04:49 AM
Anyone play RE7?

Yep. I played the PC version. Overall I liked it. It is closer in tone and playstyle to the older RE games which I appreciated.

My only beef was some of the "boss" fights felt too scripted.

Performance wise it looked great and ran smooth on my PC.


I'll be grabbing it then. RE6 was terrible
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Post by: Pavlovs Dog on January 22, 2018, 09:04:40 AM
I am finally playing Deus Ex; Mankind Divided.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on February 20, 2018, 06:39:09 AM
Kingdom Come: Deliverance

A lot of people say it's been a buggy mess for them but I haven't encountered too many yet. The game looks beautiful. The save system is terrible but from what I've read there's already a mod out that fixes it.

This is basically Mount and Blade as a first person RPG.

I don't get the complaint that the game is racist for not having minorities characters but the game is based in 15th century Bohemia and I don't think there was a large minority presence in Bohemia at that time.
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Post by: PeppermintButler on February 20, 2018, 09:44:35 AM
currently alternating between 3rd toon build for FO4 on ps4, FO3 NV on ps3, and Xenoblade Chronicles 2 on switch
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: PeppermintButler on February 20, 2018, 09:45:25 AM
FO3 reminds me again why weapon durability is a shit mechanic and how much I miss crafting benches linked to storage
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on February 20, 2018, 10:10:24 AM
Hey, speaking of buggy messes! ;)
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: PeppermintButler on February 20, 2018, 10:18:11 AM
I just got back into it, about a year ago i bought a bunch of used ps3 games, FO3, FO3 NV, Bioshock 3, Dragons Dogma, Mass Effect Trilogy and then a week later the disc reader kicked the bucket. My wife just got me a used ps3 for my bday
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Post by: Pavlovs Dog on February 20, 2018, 10:58:49 AM
I would've given you mine for free.  I just finally traded it in to gamestop for 30 bucks.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: PeppermintButler on February 20, 2018, 11:53:25 AM
Anything else you're giving away?
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Pavlovs Dog on February 20, 2018, 12:06:57 PM
I think I still have a PS2 somewhere.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on February 20, 2018, 12:55:01 PM
I still have my PS3 Fatty.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on March 15, 2018, 12:43:27 PM
https://slate.com/technology/2018/03/drake-turned-up-on-twitch-to-play-fortnite-with-ninja.html

630,000 people tuned in to watch Drake play some Fortnite Battle Royale with Twitch streamer Ninja.

I read elsewhere that Ninja got 90,000 subscribers from that stream which is around $250k take home for Ninja. Not a bad payday for playing Fortnite with Drake for a couple of hours.
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Post by: Worldtraveller on March 30, 2018, 12:08:10 PM
Just started playing Rebel Galaxy. This game is pretty fun. Good story (not terribly original, but well implemented), the space battles are limited to a 2-D plane, but the strategy/tactical choices are good, and it takes some skill. Diggin' it so far. I got real cheap when it was on sale on GoG, and ignored it for a long time.

I would say Nexus: The Jupiter Incident is the better 'spaceship simulator'.

Rebel Galaxy is the first game, though, that I'll actually add some of the songs to my playllist. The sound track is pretty amazing.
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Post by: ksen on April 04, 2018, 06:45:14 AM
Far Cry 5.

Typical Ubisoft open world game set in rural Montana trying to liberate an area from a dangerous cult. Even though it's a cookie cutter Ubisoft design it's a fun and satisfying FPS.

Also, no loot boxes!
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Post by: ksen on April 24, 2018, 02:01:11 PM
God of War (2018)

Amazing so far.

Also: fuck dark elves
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Post by: PeppermintButler on April 24, 2018, 02:43:43 PM
Got RE7 the other day, played for 2 hours, haven't played it yet again, will probably only in full streaming daylight
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: ksen on April 24, 2018, 03:03:14 PM
RE7 was good. Pretty scary.
Title: Re: Whatcha playing'?
Post by: Pavlovs Dog on April 24, 2018, 04:29:43 PM
I'm playing Divinity: Original Sin with my good buddy Damian