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  • borealis
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Re: Relax, Donald Trump is Stone Cold Sane
Reply #925
Being a scientist who prides himself on "not sucking at science", you are no doubt familiar with the process of considering ALL possible hypotheses ... so I'm sure you've considered this one wrt the "many fine people" remark ...

Hypothesis: the "many fine people" who marched believed that they were protesting reverse discrimination against whites.

Also, how is the WaPo post a "neener neener" post?
How are you this misinformed and ignorant?

'Reverse discrimination', are you seriously suggesting that people who have publicly, on their facebook pages and twitter accounts and literature, advocated for killing black people and Jews, for violence against people who oppose them peacefully for making an all white country, just feel they've been discriminated against?

How can you not see what a wealth-obsessed amoral clusterfuck Trump has been throughout his whole public life?

Re: Relax, Donald Trump is Stone Cold Sane
Reply #926
If Trump is a racist, then why did he open up Mar A Lago to blacks and Jews when no other clubs in town were doing so?

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PALM BEACH, Fla. -- The patriarchs of this quiet island of millionaires threw up roadblocks when Donald Trump swooped in and turned its historic oceanfront Mar-a-Lago mansion into a private club.

The town council, seeing Trump as an ostentatious outsider, handed him a list of restrictions as he sought to transform the property in the 1990s. Membership, traffic, party attendance, even photography -- all would be strictly limited.

But Trump undercut his adversaries with a searing attack, claiming that local officials seemed to accept the established private clubs in town that had excluded Jews and blacks while imposing tough rules on his inclusive one.

Trump's lawyer sent every member of the town council copies of two classic movies about discrimination: "A Gentleman's Agreement," about a journalist who pretends to be Jewish to expose anti-Semitism, and "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" about a white couple's reaction to their daughter bringing home a black fiance.

The move infuriated council members, who said it was a distraction from their concerns that Trump's club would spoil a quiet street. But, in time, Trump got most of the restrictions lifted. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-trumps-palm-beach-castle-and-his-30-year-fight-to-win-over-the-locals/2015/11/14/26c49a58-88b7-11e5-be8b-1ae2e4f50f76_story.html?utm_term=.1ca837b6731e

I hear he has a black friend too! So I guess that's settled.

  • borealis
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Re: Relax, Donald Trump is Stone Cold Sane
Reply #927
A 'fine person' protesting 'reverse discrimination':


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Ilia Calderón, a Univision journalist with both African and Colombian heritage, agreed to visit KKK leader Chris Barker on his wooded North Carolina property. She watched Mr Barker lead a KKK meeting - in which participants dressed up in hooded robes and danced around with torches - and then sat down for an interview.

Almost immediately, Mr Barker asked her why she didn't "go back" to her country of origin. (Ms Calderón is an immigrant.)


"We have nothing here in America; ya'll keep flooding it," he said. "But like God says - like Yahweh himself says - we will chase you out of here."


Later, Mr Barker stopped to correct himself, telling Ms Calderón: "No, we're going to burn you out."

When the journalist asked him how he planned to "burn out" 11 million immigrants, he responded: "We killed 6 million Jews the last time. Eleven million is nothing."


https://www.yahoo.com/news/kkk-leader-threatens-apos-burn-211000053.html


  • Photon
  • I interfere with myself
Re: Relax, Donald Trump is Stone Cold Sane
Reply #928
Hypothesis: the "many fine people" who marched believed that they were protesting reverse discrimination against whites.

Yep. Just innocent white folk looking for a fair shake in this world just trying to get ahead in a system that is set up to restrict their success.  That's why they had a torch march and shouted "Jews will not replace us!", and the Nazi slogan "Blood and Soil", and brought riot gear and sharpened shields to a "peaceful" protest, where one of them smashed his car into a crowd killing a woman...it was just about reverse discrimination.

Dave, even you can't believe this.

It was organized by white supremacist nazi groups dedicated to the violent eradication / removal of Jews, blacks, amd immigrants from "their" country. Not by a reasonable group of people looking to end affirmative action.
  • Last Edit: August 18, 2017, 05:04:19 AM by Photon

  • borealis
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Re: Relax, Donald Trump is Stone Cold Sane
Reply #929
Don't forget lots of them also came open carrying rifles and other guns.

  • JonF
Re: Relax, Donald Trump is Stone Cold Sane
Reply #930
And with home made riot shields.
"I would never consider my evaluation of his work to be fair minded unless I had actually read his own words." - Dave Hawkins

  • Faid
Re: Relax, Donald Trump is Stone Cold Sane
Reply #931
"Amirite?"

No.

"Uarong"
Not according to YOUR "logic". Which you wanted to school us on. You essentially SAID so, dave.

But feel free to show HOW I'm wrong. Start by telling us your interpretation of the events.

  • Last Edit: August 18, 2017, 05:30:11 AM by Faid
Who even made the rule that we cannot group ducks and fish together for the simple reason that they are both aquatic? If I want to group them that way and it serves my purpose then I can jolly well do it however I want to and it is still a nested hierarchy and you can't tell me that it's not.

Re: Relax, Donald Trump is Stone Cold Sane
Reply #932
"Amirite?"

No.

"Uarong"
Not according to YOUR "logic". Which you wanted to school us on. You essentially SAID so, dave.

But feel free to show HOW I'm wrong. Start by telling us your interpretation of the events.
We've already established that Dave believes the organizer of the Rally was planted by "Somebody in the Shadows

Probably (((Soros)))?
While you were getting your PhD in virology, I got my PhD in truth detection. :wave:  Dave Hawkins

  • JonF
Re: Relax, Donald Trump is Stone Cold Sane
Reply #933
Hypothesis: the "many fine people" who marched believed that they were protesting reverse discrimination against whites.
So being deluded is an excuse for marching with Nazis? And they were so stupid and deluded that they didn't figure out who they were with?

Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.
"I would never consider my evaluation of his work to be fair minded unless I had actually read his own words." - Dave Hawkins

  • RAFH
  • Have a life, already.
Re: Relax, Donald Trump is Stone Cold Sane
Reply #934
Hypothesis: the "many fine people" who marched believed that they were protesting reverse discrimination against whites.
So being deluded is an excuse for marching with Nazis? And they were so stupid and deluded that they didn't figure out who they were with?

Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.
Or get bit by the fleas.
Are we there yet?

  • fredbear
  • Militantly Confused
Re: Relax, Donald Trump is Stone Cold Sane
Reply #935
Being a scientist who prides himself on "not sucking at science", you are no doubt familiar with the process of considering ALL possible hypotheses ... so I'm sure you've considered this one wrt the "many fine people" remark ...

Hypothesis: the "many fine people" who marched believed that they were protesting reverse discrimination against whites.

Also, how is the WaPo post a "neener neener" post?
The response to this is in the form of a quote from the other forum:

What strikes me is that it would have been so easy to comment on violent antifa tactics without drawing a moral equivalency between the them and the supremacists.

tbh I rather question this assumption that he's drawing a moral equivalency between the 2 sides, I think he is appearing to but only on the most superficial level ('both sides') which is the fig leaf enabling him to pass this off to people who won't go any deeper such as McCain. But what he's really saying if you read it carefully (which the fascists at Daily Stormer are doing as it's directed at them) is the people standing up to fascism were the ones in the wrong. They 'charged' the fascists, 'with clubs', 'they were the aggressors initially', he even said 'they didn't have a permit' to even be there but the fascists did (which apparently was a lie). On the other hand the fascists, who include some 'good people' were trying to conduct a 'peaceful' and legally authorised demonstration in a cause he is stating explicitly that he supports (ie. defending 'our heritage'). He's clearly taking his narrative directly from David Duke.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/david-duke-trump-charlottesville_us_5991d6bae4b08a2472764798

I suspect he's also trying to create grounds for further control of anti fascist demonstrations.

Your president is clearly siding with the Nazis on this one, Dave. Clearly. What do you do now, Dave? What does your conscience tell you? Maintain blind support? The Nazis are relying on precisely that response from folks just. like. you.
"...without considering any evidence at all - that my views are more likely - on average - to be correct.  Because the mainstream is almost always wrong" - Dave Hawkins

  • VoxRat
  • wtactualf
Re: Relax, Donald Trump is Stone Cold Sane
Reply #936
Your president is clearly siding with the Nazis on this one, Dave. Clearly. What do you do now, Dave?

Come up with ridiculous "hypotheses" which - until someone* definitively, categorically, absolutely rules out - serve as an excuse to disbelieve the obvious and to believe the incredible.

* someone else, mind you. Because we know damn well Hawkins isn't going to lift a finger to turn over the rock under which his prejudices thrive.
"I understand Donald Trump better than many people because I really am a lot like him." - Dave Hawkins

Re: Relax, Donald Trump is Stone Cold Sane
Reply #937
"Disbelieve the obvious"

"The obvious"  being the mainstream media narrative

 Or millions of years

 Or goo to you via the zoo

 And so on

  • VoxRat
  • wtactualf
Re: Relax, Donald Trump is Stone Cold Sane
Reply #938
::)  Got anything other than slogans, Hawkins?
"I understand Donald Trump better than many people because I really am a lot like him." - Dave Hawkins

  • borealis
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Re: Relax, Donald Trump is Stone Cold Sane
Reply #939
LOL!

Dave, TOWNHALL, a strongly rightwing, republican rag, has a column expressing outrage at Trump's Nazi-sympathising this week.

You're so lame with your 'mainstream media narrative'. Yer boy is a racist Nazi sympathiser and not quite right in the head either.

Also (LOL!) he has fired Breitbart Bannon now.

  • Photon
  • I interfere with myself
Re: Relax, Donald Trump is Stone Cold Sane
Reply #940
"Disbelieve the obvious"

"The obvious"  being the mainstream media narrative

 Or millions of years

 Or goo to you via the zoo

 And so on
Yep. You've gone and cleared up all uncertainty. You are, indeed, a fucking idiot.

Aa usual you won't even look at evidence that contradicts your favoured narrative, keep your head in the sand, Dave, while your white-nationalist-sympathisizing president flails desperately to keep numpties like you in blind obeisance.
  • Last Edit: August 18, 2017, 10:13:26 AM by Photon

  • Pingu
Re: Relax, Donald Trump is Stone Cold Sane
Reply #941
Funny how all the rolling heads are Trump's appointees.



Funny that the only one left is the only one Trump can't fire.

  • Pingu
Re: Relax, Donald Trump is Stone Cold Sane
Reply #942
"Disbelieve the obvious"

"The obvious"  being the mainstream media narrative

 Or millions of years

 Or goo to you via the zoo

 And so on

No, the "mainstream view" wasn't "obvious", which is why it has only been held fairly recently - after painstaking and consilient findings by countless scientists.

Many scientific models turn out to be far from "obvious".  But if they fit the data better than the "obvious" model, then we go with the data. Right?

Re: Relax, Donald Trump is Stone Cold Sane
Reply #943
Jesus Christ.

And you people have advanced science degrees.

 Which supposedly means that you know a thing or two about determining truth.
I've noted this before, but your sarcasm is the closest you ever come to being right. You should really just stick to these sorts of short, declarative sentences where you just state the opposite of what you believe. If you do it long enough, you might just manage to come across as not being a completely despicable idiot.

"Disbelieve the obvious"

"The obvious"  being the mainstream media narrative

 Or millions of years

 Or goo to you via the zoo

 And so on
Keep it up, Dave! You look very slightly less stupid this way! (Although shit like "goo to you via the zoo" still makes you look pretty damn stupid.)

Re: Relax, Donald Trump is Stone Cold Sane
Reply #944
Which part makes me look LESS stupid?

Lol

  • Faid
Re: Relax, Donald Trump is Stone Cold Sane
Reply #945
"Disbelieve the obvious"

"The obvious"  being the mainstream media narrative

 Or millions of years

 Or goo to you via the zoo

 And so on
"Goo to you via the zoo"? I hadn't heard that in a while.

Talk about the long-term effects of indoctrination...
Who even made the rule that we cannot group ducks and fish together for the simple reason that they are both aquatic? If I want to group them that way and it serves my purpose then I can jolly well do it however I want to and it is still a nested hierarchy and you can't tell me that it's not.

  • Faid
Re: Relax, Donald Trump is Stone Cold Sane
Reply #946
Which part makes me look LESS stupid?

Lol
Well, trying to give your interpretation of the events at Charlottesville, like you said, would be a good start. Or, at least, an earnest attempt.
Who even made the rule that we cannot group ducks and fish together for the simple reason that they are both aquatic? If I want to group them that way and it serves my purpose then I can jolly well do it however I want to and it is still a nested hierarchy and you can't tell me that it's not.

  • borealis
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Re: Relax, Donald Trump is Stone Cold Sane
Reply #947
I  agree with Faid, Dave. Have a cup of milk or something to gather your thoughts and try to explain what you actually think happened in Charlottesville.

There are dozens of videos taken by ordinary people - they can't all be soros plants.

  • fredbear
  • Militantly Confused
Re: Relax, Donald Trump is Stone Cold Sane
Reply #948
Which part makes me look LESS stupid?

Lol
Well, trying to give your interpretation of the events at Charlottesville, like you said, would be a good start. Or, at least, an earnest attempt.

Since he simply can't believe that his Dear Leader can be wrong about anything, he's already convinced himself that the folks who showed up to counter ACTUAL FUCKING NAZIS are actually worse than ACTUAL FUCKING NAZIS, who ACTUALLY KILLED SOMEONE BY RAMMING THEIR VEHICLE INTO A CROWD.

Which kind of puts him in a difficult position wrt. maintaining any facade of basic human decency.
"...without considering any evidence at all - that my views are more likely - on average - to be correct.  Because the mainstream is almost always wrong" - Dave Hawkins

  • Photon
  • I interfere with myself
Re: Relax, Donald Trump is Stone Cold Sane
Reply #949
Cue another dismissive Hawkins LOL.

He simply cannot bring himself to address ANYTHING of substance.