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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #400
As I have in the past, I suggest to any mods who may have any give-a-shit left for FX's antics that this whole thread be moved to ARSE where it belongs. I'll be glad to have whatever discussion FX would like to have about "deniers" and "fuckheads" there, assuming he's learned to be less of a spam-throwing baby about the idea of posting there.

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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #401
This idiocy about snowfall started after the extreme (record snowfalls) made it impossible to just deny it was getting colder in winter.

We can see how the idiot believer refuses to even recognize the problem.
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The questionable claim from warmers that global warming will mean "more extreme" weather, including snowfall, doesn't hold up when you look at the evidence. If we saw a warming trend, and there was more snow, then you could argue that. But when the decade trend is cooling, it's ludicrous to claim it was warming that caused the increase in snow.
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We do see a global warming trend. One of the major reasons for seeing more snow in certain areas of the northern hemisphere is because the warmer global temperatures mean an increase in ocean evaporation and more moisture in the atmosphere. Physics bitches - it works!
http://talkrational.org/archive/showpost.php?p=2294041&postcount=38

That's the alarmists argument right there.  "It snows more because of global warming".  If the evidence showed this was the case, there would be no argument about it.  Hell, you could just show the data and explain how it supports the idea.

But of course no data shows more snow is associated with warmer temps.
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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #402
making serious responses to FX's rambling nonsense.
Nonsense.  You simply refuse to discuss the data.  You always do this.
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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #403
As I have in the past, I suggest to any mods
A tactic used to avoid discussing factual data, or anything else you "don't like"'
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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #404
Like I said, I'd be glad to have the discussion in the appropriate forum.

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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #405
A scientific view of reality recognizes the association with temps and snow amounts.  It snows more when it's colder, not warmer.





The alarmists will try and say the precip amounts are what causes more snow.  But for most locations that is just bullshit.



When faced with such factual scientific data, the believer will do anything, except change their mind.
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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #406
It's how we can know facts are the last thing that will change your mind
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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #407
Everything you just posted is wrong.


Four years ago I was posting the same clear and understandable fact based ideas.

http://talkrational.org/archive/showpost.php?p=2300792&postcount=73

Like I predicted, the facts didn't matter at all.
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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #408
A scientific view of reality recognizes the association with temps and snow amounts.  It snows more when it's colder, not warmer.





The alarmists will try and say the precip amounts are what causes more snow.  But for most locations that is just bullshit.



When faced with such factual scientific data, the believer will do anything, except change their mind.

The record old that has hit the US isn't unexpected, and actually fits the trend of winter cooling for the regions hardest hit.  What is a bit different is this cold is so widespread and extreme that it actually is leading to less snowfall for many areas.

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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #409
Yes, when a very large polar air intrusion dominates the weather pattern, it prevents the warm moist air from reaching into it.  Polar regions see less snow when it is very cold. Not everywhere experiences snow by some magic when it is cold.  That's weather.

But for climate, in areas where a lot of people actually live, winters with colder periods usually have more snow.  It's complicated.

Mountain areas, polar regions, it's not the same issue. But for places like Boston, New York, the Midwest, even the southeast US, the UK, Europe, Asia, cold winters mean more snow.  warm winters mean less snow.  Because physics.

Warm winters are not known for a lot of snow. That anybody would argue against this is a result of the insanity that true believers cling to, in order to avoid looking at the data.

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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #410
If warm winters had more snow, and cold winters had less snow, then it would be childs play to show this.  But of course the morons don't show you the data.  That just make shit up.

After the fact.
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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #411
After the fact no longer though.  The Mandarins of the Models can now predict snow eight months in advance.

http://www.newsweek.com/snow-prediction-climate-weather-801188

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Forecasts can generally predict how much precipitation an area may have several months in advance, but when it comes to specifically predicting snowfall, we're more in the dark. However, a new model may offer more advanced warning when it comes to the white stuff.

Take that Farmer's Almanac.


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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #412
https://wwa.climatecentral.org/analyses/north-american-cold-winter-2017-2018/
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To put this in a longer historical perspective and compute actual odds of such an event, we used the Berkeley Earth System Temperature daily temperature analyses 1880-2013, extended by ERA-interim up to 2016/17 and ECMWF analyses and forecasts for the last few months.

the Berkeley Earth System Temperature daily temperature analyses is with out any doubt the absolute worst when it comes to changing the actual observations, to try and show global warming.

Their graphs for the US data are literally a fraud.


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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #413
With the data for winter 2017-18 available, we can now see a thirty year trend for climate stations.  Want to take a guess what the data shows?  (Cohen used 1988 as the start point for his 2012 and 2014 papers on large scale NH winter cooling trends, along with increasing snow cover)

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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #414
Before the certain denial starts, nobody is claiming the entire NH shows a cooling trend, not is it about annual trends, nor is it about the oceans.
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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #415
A scientific view of reality recognizes the association with temps and snow amounts.  It snows more when it's colder, not warmer.





The alarmists will try and say the precip amounts are what causes more snow.  But for most locations that is just bullshit.



When faced with such factual scientific data, the believer will do anything, except change their mind.

 :parrot:
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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #416
A scientific view of reality recognizes the association with temps and snow amounts.  It snows more when it's colder, not warmer.





The alarmists will try and say the precip amounts are what causes more snow.  But for most locations that is just bullshit.



When faced with such factual scientific data, the believer will do anything, except change their mind.
making serious responses to FX's rambling nonsense.
Nonsense.  You simply refuse to discuss the data.  You always do this.
At least Voxrat would try and counter with data at times. 

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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #417


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The alarmists actually believe there are more winter storms when it is warmer.

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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #418
The winter cooling we have observed of late is not like the winter cooling recorded before

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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #419
During the "coming ice age" period there was cooling (for large areas) for all seasons, not just the boreal winters.

And yes, I am aware many of the climate idiots don't like that graphic, because they are ignorant.

But it actually shows the past climate changes. 
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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #420
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if you give it away you'll have so many
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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #421
Easily an 8/10 climate discussion troll and sets an early spring high bar.

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Re: NH winter cooling
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Reply #423
Meanwhile, back in reality land

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