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  • uncool
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Hmm.
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 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

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Reply #577
just think of all the money the state could save if cops just keep killing people for funsies

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Reply #578
abolish ICE, ship all agents to a gulag somewhere in northern alaska


  • uncool
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Reply #580
abolish ICE, ship all agents to a gulag somewhere in northern alaska


Better location is Kerguelen Islands, their only "friends" would be the French scientists stationed there.
Are we there yet?

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Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

  • uncool
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Reply #582
Bright spot: Arpaio's fucked. No pardon, unless Trump goes off-script again.
Hahaha what a moron this poster is
He's moving to have his conviction vacated on account of the pardon:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3982363-document-19227263.html

Apparently this is standard in cases where pardon comes before all appeals are done (which is one reason why those are supposed to be rare, and why the pardons usually require acceptance of guilt).

Apparently this is still ongoing.

http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/383547-federal-appeals-court-to-appoint-special-prosecutor-to-defend-judges

The Justice Department won't defend the conviction, so the court is going to assign someone to do it for them.

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James Comey Sees Himself As A Victim Of Trump. He Refuses To See The Victims Of The Justice System.

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Like Kelly, Comey frames his blinkered nostalgia as public virtue, and he's largely succeeding: His book has been lavishly and warmly received. Comey is certainly right about the danger of Trump, but that doesn't mean he's right about other things. For instance, he shows minimal concern for the police killings of black men and the protest movement that's grown out of them. He seems unable to believe that poor and minority communities have a fair case against the way law enforcement has been practiced on them.

In a short chapter on racial injustice, Comey describes the killings of Eric Garner, Tamir Rice, Walter Scott, and Freddie Gray as "tragic deaths." But he turns the killings around, lamenting that they "dominated perceptions of the police. They swamped and overshadowed millions of positive, professional encounters between citizens and police officers, and extraordinary anger was building toward all uniformed law enforcement." Yes, Comey really went there -- blaming the victims of police abuse for making people upset that police were abusing them.

Comey did not hide these views while at the FBI, and after making a speech in Chicago in 2015 that was not well received by the civil rights community, he was summoned to the Oval Office by then-President Barack Obama. Comey describes that session in his book, and he seemed to double down, telling the country's first black president that the law enforcement community was upset at the way Obama had used the phrase "mass incarceration." It was offensive, Comey told the president.

"I thought the term was both inaccurate and insulting to a lot of good people in law enforcement who cared deeply about helping people trapped in dangerous neighborhoods," Comey writes. "It was inaccurate in the sense that there was nothing 'mass' about the incarceration: every defendant was charged individually, represented individually by counsel, convicted by a court individually, sentenced individually, reviewed on appeal individually, and incarcerated. That added up to a lot of people in jail, but there was nothing 'mass' about it."

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Reply #584
Upstate NY farmer says ICE officers stormed his farm without a warrant, cuffed him, threw his phone

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Rome, N.Y. -- John Collins was standing outside the milk house at his dairy farm this morning when he heard yelling coming from inside. He ran in, he says, and saw his worker, Marcial de Leon Aguilar, pinned up against the window by armed men.

The men did not identify themselves and were screaming at Aguilar, Collins said.

"I run and say, 'What the hell is going on in here?'" Collins said.

Then the men told Collins they were officers with Immigration and Customs Enforcement. He asked them for a warrant or some paperwork to explain what they were doing. They had none, he said, so he ordered them to get off his property and leave Aguilar alone.

As this happened, Collins said, Aguilar's children watched. They were waiting nearby for the school bus to come. Collins said the officers put Aguilar in handcuffs and took him across the rural road to their vehicles. At least seven officers had come onto the small farm, Collins said.

Adrian Smith, a spokesman for ICE, said he was looking into the situation and would comment when he knew more.

Collins said he followed the officers cross the street and asked them why they were taking Aguilar, but he didn't get a straight answer. He also continued to ask for paperwork, but was not offered any by the ICE officers.

...

Collins followed the ICE officers across as they took Aguilar, in handcuffs, to their three waiting vehicles.

"I told them you can't come in here without a warrant," Collins said. "They can't take someone and throw them up against the wall because of the color of their skin."

Collins attempted to take photos and video with his phone. When he did that, he said, one of the ICE officers grabbed his phone and threw it into the road. Then they handcuffed him and threatened to arrest him for hindering a federal investigation, he said.

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Reply #585
Killing ice agents is morally acceptable
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

  • uncool
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Reply #586
Technically not necessarily police abuse yet, but institutional abuse:

http://www.wbbjtv.com/2018/04/18/investigators-look-racial-slurs-spray-painted-familys-home
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"That's a pretty building, and it's right on the corner there in the downtown area, and I was just more concerned with getting the paint off the building than I was anything else," said Mayor Casey Burnett of Friendship.

Mayor Burnett says he was one of the first people to see the graffiti, but he says he doesn't consider it to be a hate crime.

"It did have a little bit of a racial slur to it, but we're not a racial community at all," said the mayor, "and things like that are not at all reflective of our community."

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Reply #587
James Comey Sees Himself As A Victim Of Trump. He Refuses To See The Victims Of The Justice System.

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Like Kelly, Comey frames his blinkered nostalgia as public virtue, and he's largely succeeding: His book has been lavishly and warmly received. Comey is certainly right about the danger of Trump, but that doesn't mean he's right about other things. For instance, he shows minimal concern for the police killings of black men and the protest movement that's grown out of them. He seems unable to believe that poor and minority communities have a fair case against the way law enforcement has been practiced on them.

In a short chapter on racial injustice, Comey describes the killings of Eric Garner, Tamir Rice, Walter Scott, and Freddie Gray as "tragic deaths." But he turns the killings around, lamenting that they "dominated perceptions of the police. They swamped and overshadowed millions of positive, professional encounters between citizens and police officers, and extraordinary anger was building toward all uniformed law enforcement." Yes, Comey really went there -- blaming the victims of police abuse for making people upset that police were abusing them.

Comey did not hide these views while at the FBI, and after making a speech in Chicago in 2015 that was not well received by the civil rights community, he was summoned to the Oval Office by then-President Barack Obama. Comey describes that session in his book, and he seemed to double down, telling the country's first black president that the law enforcement community was upset at the way Obama had used the phrase "mass incarceration." It was offensive, Comey told the president.

"I thought the term was both inaccurate and insulting to a lot of good people in law enforcement who cared deeply about helping people trapped in dangerous neighborhoods," Comey writes. "It was inaccurate in the sense that there was nothing 'mass' about the incarceration: every defendant was charged individually, represented individually by counsel, convicted by a court individually, sentenced individually, reviewed on appeal individually, and incarcerated. That added up to a lot of people in jail, but there was nothing 'mass' about it."
When a country has one of the highest rates of incarceration for non-political offenses in the world, including countries that are seriously authoritarian, mass incarceration is an entirely appropriate term to use. When that incarceration is grossly biased towards minorities and the poor, it's doubly appropriate.
Are we there yet?

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Reply #589
It's cops that make me understand vader's choice to accept the dark side.
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

  • uncool
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  • Last Edit: April 19, 2018, 09:36:57 PM by uncool

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Reply #591
Ok, so Google news makes it hard to get the relevant links,  but apparently someone shot 2 cops through a window in a restaurant in Florida. The cops would not release any info on the motive saying how the story needed to be about the "heroes" who died. That was yesterday I think.  Today, NBC runs a OP ed saying police are being demonized.

Gotta say, tigers don't have their stripes painted on them by gazelles. When you act like a demon, people will tend to think that you are a demon.
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

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Reply #592
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

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Reply #593
Karma's a beeyotch.

  • uncool
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www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article209496684.html

Judge berates a woman for trying to give the whole truth (about several things, including medical treatments). The woman ends up dead 3 days later (seemingly from stress induced by the judge's actions). Video included.

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The real threat to free speech is people saying mean things on Twitter to Bari Weiss and Bret Stephens.

  • uncool
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Couldn't happen to a more deserving group. Thread:



On the other hand:
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A letter to CPD from Cook County State's Attorney Kim Foxx's office, meanwhile, says prosecutors will no longer call nine of those same cops to testify "in any pending or future matters...due to concerns about their credibility."

So you will call six of them?

  • uncool
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