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Reply #50

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Reply #51
More Silicon Valley Ingenuity:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/security-robots-are-monitoring-the-homeless-in-san-francisco-2017-12?r=US&IR=T

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In San Francisco, autonomous crime-fighting robots that are used to patrol parking lots, sports arenas, and tech company campuses are now being deployed to keep away homeless people.

The San Francisco Business Times reported last week that the San Francisco SPCA, an animal advocacy and pet adoption group, put a security robot to work outside its facilities in the gentrifying Mission neighborhood. The robot's presence is meant to deter homeless people from setting up camps along the sidewalks.

This is pretty much peak white people.

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Reply #52
Peak whiteness is using robots to preserve a white utopia.
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

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Reply #53
Peak whiteness is using robots to preserve a white utopia for white people who love animals.

you missed a bit

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Reply #54

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Reply #55
I'm hoping that Ed Lee's replacement will not be so eager to sell the city to tech.

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Reply #56
Price of 40-year-old cancer drug raised from $50 to $768 a pill
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Nextsource CEO Robert Dicrisci, pictured, says they base pricing on "product-development costs, regulatory-agency fees, and the benefit the treatment delivers to patients." As it didn't develop the drug and regulatory fees are not up 1,400%, that leaves the last part of his formulation. It is, in all fairness, a good way of suggesting that your life is surely worth every penny you have.

Isn't the free market wonderful?

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Reply #57
Pfizer decides that science is hard:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/pfizer-ends-hunt-for-drugs-to-treat-alzheimers-and-parkinsons-1515267654

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Pfizer Inc. said Saturday it will stop trying to discover new drugs for Alzheimer's disease and Parkinson's disease, abandoning costly but futile efforts to find effective treatments for the disorders.

The cutback will result in layoffs of 300 employees in Cambridge and Andover in Massachusetts and in Groton, Conn., over several months, according to a company statement.

jorb creators.

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Reply #58
:unsure:

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Reply #59
Everyone in this article, but especially this guy:
https://nytimes.com/2018/02/02/technology/cryptocurrency-puerto-rico.html
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"What's happened here is a perfect storm," said Halsey Minor, the founder of the news site CNET, who is moving his new blockchain company -- called Videocoin -- from the Cayman Islands to Puerto Rico this winter. Referring to Hurricane Maria and the investment interest that has followed, he added, "While it was really bad for the people of Puerto Rico, in the long term it's a godsend if people look past that."

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Reply #61
not sure this is exactly the right thread for this but..
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article198971069.html
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

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Reply #62
I don't think I needed to read that.

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Reply #63
Just remember to stash your hamster
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

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Reply #64
Price of 40-year-old cancer drug raised from $50 to $768 a pill
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Nextsource CEO Robert Dicrisci, pictured, says they base pricing on "product-development costs, regulatory-agency fees, and the benefit the treatment delivers to patients." As it didn't develop the drug and regulatory fees are not up 1,400%, that leaves the last part of his formulation. It is, in all fairness, a good way of suggesting that your life is surely worth every penny you have.

Isn't the free market wonderful?

Well, yes.
There hasn't been a free market in anything related to medicine for a very, very long time.
Ready examples of the benefits of more free vs less free markets would be LASIK, and veterinary medicine.
Imagine that, I can actually know in advance what a procedure will cost.
And just chart the price and availability of LASIK over time.

Health care is a hot mess, and it keeps getting worse.  And not because of markets.

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Reply #65
right, because overburdensome government regulations force companies to raise the price of their legacy drugs by hundreds or thousands of percent.

Great point!

eta: Please add PlaidTheImpaler to the list of those needing to be guillotined already.

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Reply #66
right, because overburdensome government regulations force companies to raise the price of their legacy drugs by hundreds or thousands of percent.

Great point!

eta: Please add PlaidTheImpaler to the list of those needing to be guillotined already.

Did I say that?  You inferred, you don't agree with it, and so "off with his head"?
Facts are facts.  Health care is a hot mess.  It's getting worse.
Other approaches, hardly 'unregulated', work in ways some of us would like to see in human medicine.
Demonstrably true.
Those alternatives are choked off.

Regardless, if we are to talk rationally, we must acknowledge that the point I challenged was worth challenging, for it embeds an assumption that does not apply.


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Please add PlaidTheImpaler to the list of those needing to be guillotined already.

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Reply #68
right, because overburdensome government regulations force companies to raise the price of their legacy drugs by hundreds or thousands of percent.

Great point!

eta: Please add PlaidTheImpaler to the list of those needing to be guillotined already.

Did I say that?

Yes.

If you'd like to disagree that that's what you said go ahead and explain what you meant.

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You inferred, you don't agree with it, and so "off with his head"?

I inferred that people who knowingly support a monstrous system should have their heads examined and then promptly removed.

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Facts are facts.  Health care is a hot mess.  It's getting worse.

Yes.

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Other approaches, hardly 'unregulated', work in ways some of us would like to see in human medicine.
Demonstrably true.

Ok?

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Those alternatives are choked off.

wat

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Regardless, if we are to talk rationally, we must acknowledge that the point I challenged was worth challenging, for it embeds an assumption that does not apply.

Try restating your point so that it's in comprehensible english. Actually state something instead of using buzz words.

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Reply #69
right, because overburdensome government regulations force companies to raise the price of their legacy drugs by hundreds or thousands of percent.

Great point!

eta: Please add PlaidTheImpaler to the list of those needing to be guillotined already.

Did I say that?

Yes.

If you'd like to disagree that that's what you said go ahead and explain what you meant.

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You inferred, you don't agree with it, and so "off with his head"?

I inferred that people who knowingly support a monstrous system should have their heads examined and then promptly removed.

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Facts are facts.  Health care is a hot mess.  It's getting worse.

Yes.

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Other approaches, hardly 'unregulated', work in ways some of us would like to see in human medicine.
Demonstrably true.

Ok?

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Those alternatives are choked off.

wat

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Regardless, if we are to talk rationally, we must acknowledge that the point I challenged was worth challenging, for it embeds an assumption that does not apply.

Try restating your point so that it's in comprehensible english. Actually state something instead of using buzz words.

The US market for drugs is not a free market.
Therefore, it is incorrect to suggest that a drug price increase was due to free markets.

How does pointing this out warrant execution?

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Reply #70
we're talking about stashing hamsters right now.
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

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Reply #71
The US market for drugs is not a free market.

Is that a good or bad thing in your view?

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Therefore, it is incorrect to suggest that a drug price increase was due to free markets.

Unless the government mandated the price increase or made these legacy drugs that more expensive through regulation then it is a free market decision made by the company to raise the price.

And it indicates what drug companies would do if they were completely left to their own devices.

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How does pointing this out warrant execution?

How does it not?

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Reply #72
we're talking about stashing hamsters right now.

If a mod wants to split this off into its own thread that'd be cool.

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Reply #73
Ready examples of the benefits of more free vs less free markets would be LASIK, and veterinary medicine.

Vet med comes with a ton of downsides that are only acceptable because animal life isn't worth as much as human life, and the growth of consolidation is probably going to get ugly for the consumer.

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Reply #74
The US market for drugs is not a free market.

Is that a good or bad thing in your view?

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Therefore, it is incorrect to suggest that a drug price increase was due to free markets.

Unless the government mandated the price increase or made these legacy drugs that more expensive through regulation then it is a free market decision made by the company to raise the price.

And it indicates what drug companies would do if they were completely left to their own devices.
That's not exactly true. It is a decision made by the company to maximize profits, yes, but (in the relevant ideology) it only maximizes profit because the market isn't free - and is kept so by the government. The idea is that the FDA does a lot to create a barrier to entry into the drug market (intellectual property rights, huge amounts of testing, etc.), meaning that there aren't new competitors who could come in to fill the need - allowing the companies to raise prices while staying competitive.

The point being that yes - the companies do do this on their own. But they're on their own because of regulation.

At least, that's the ideology.