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Re: The Trump Kompromat Fact: Whereby we discuss the realness of the piss tape
Reply #3475
wow.
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

  • uncool
Re: The Trump Kompromat Fact: Whereby we discuss the realness of the piss tape
Reply #3476
That...doesn't seem to be based on anything more than "Trump had the information".

And kept it pretty quiet.

Hrm. For Trump, that is pretty unusual.

Re: The Trump Kompromat Fact: Whereby we discuss the realness of the piss tape
Reply #3477
And said he'd use it to hurt him if he ever ran for public office in opposition to him.

Seems pretty cut and dry.

  • linus
Re: The Trump Kompromat Fact: Whereby we discuss the realness of the piss tape
Reply #3478
Cut and dry as in there will be meaningful legal consequences for Trump?

  • uncool
Re: The Trump Kompromat Fact: Whereby we discuss the realness of the piss tape
Reply #3479
The relevant laws in New York State are 135.60, Coercion in the second degree and 135.65, Coercion in the first degree. The latter depends on the former.

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A person is guilty of coercion in the second degree when he or she compels or induces a person to engage in conduct which the latter has a legal right to abstain from engaging in, or to abstain from engaging in conduct in which he or she has a legal right to engage, or compels or induces a person to join a group, organization or criminal enterprise which such latter person has a right to abstain from joining, by means of instilling in him or her a fear that, if the demand is not complied with, the actor or another will [long series of conditions]

Teeth's link doesn't show any attempt to compel or induce anything - just knowledge.

Re: The Trump Kompromat Fact: Whereby we discuss the realness of the piss tape
Reply #3480
"This is a nice house, shame if something happened to it" certainly isnt extortion, I'm sure

  • uncool
Re: The Trump Kompromat Fact: Whereby we discuss the realness of the piss tape
Reply #3481
https://www.wsj.com/articles/michael-cohens-d-c-consulting-career-scattershot-with-mixed-success-1526257805

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Mr. Cohen's pitch was blunt. He would tell prospective clients--large corporations worried about their lack of connections to President Donald Trump's administration--that he didn't know who was advising them, but that the companies "should fire them all," a person familiar with Mr. Cohen's approach said. "I have the best relationship with the president on the outside, and you need to hire me," Mr. Cohen told them, according to this person.

Mr. Cohen repeatedly pitched Uber, which said no, citing Mr. Cohen's ownership of New York taxi medallions as a potential conflict of interest with the ride-hailing firm, a person close to the company said. He modified his pitch in response those objections, reminding the company he was "the president's lawyer," this person said.

When Uber does the right thing...


Re: The Trump Kompromat Fact: Whereby we discuss the realness of the piss tape
Reply #3483

  • Faid
Re: The Trump Kompromat Fact: Whereby we discuss the realness of the piss tape
Reply #3484
Let me guess- They told him to say it was about adoptions.
Who even made the rule that we cannot group ducks and fish together for the simple reason that they are both aquatic? If I want to group them that way and it serves my purpose then I can jolly well do it however I want to and it is still a nested hierarchy and you can't tell me that it's not.

  • ffejrxx
Re: The Trump Kompromat Fact: Whereby we discuss the realness of the piss tape
Reply #3485
question, do the leakers in the wh count as pisstape material?

trump wanting to punish the leakers not the leakee sound like its own :pisstape:

Re: The Trump Kompromat Fact: Whereby we discuss the realness of the piss tape
Reply #3486
kinda puts a lie to Jr's whole "I dunno I didn't ask about nothing before setting up a meeting with all the top people"


Re: The Trump Kompromat Fact: Whereby we discuss the realness of the piss tape
Reply #3487

Re: The Trump Kompromat Fact: Whereby we discuss the realness of the piss tape
Reply #3488
it's really bizarre how slow it is all unraveling and how much it doesn't seem to matter.
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

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Re: The Trump Kompromat Fact: Whereby we discuss the realness of the piss tape
Reply #3489
think how hilarious it's going to be when this pack of literal criminals gets re-elected

Re: The Trump Kompromat Fact: Whereby we discuss the realness of the piss tape
Reply #3490
think how hilarious it's going to be when this pack of literal criminals gets re-elected
I'm not sure hilarious is the word I'd choose but there will def be humor in it.
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

  • el jefe
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Re: The Trump Kompromat Fact: Whereby we discuss the realness of the piss tape
Reply #3491
it's really bizarre how slow it is all unraveling and how much it doesn't seem to matter.
yes to both

Re: The Trump Kompromat Fact: Whereby we discuss the realness of the piss tape
Reply #3492
Perhaps the game was over before it even began

  • meepmeep
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Re: The Trump Kompromat Fact: Whereby we discuss the realness of the piss tape
Reply #3493
oh boy



Also lol the New Yorker's site continues to be so fucking terrible that even though I'm subscribed and LOGGED THE FUCK IN, it still told me I have 4 articles left this month.

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The report also refers to two previous suspicious-activity reports, or SARs, that the bank had filed, which documented even larger flows of questionable money into Cohen's account. Those two reports detail more than three million dollars in additional transactions--triple the amount in the report released last week. Which individuals or corporations were involved remains a mystery. But, according to the official who leaked the report, these SARs were absent from the database maintained by the Treasury Department's Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, or FinCEN. The official, who has spent a career in law enforcement, told me, "I have never seen something pulled off the system. . . . That system is a safeguard for the bank. It's a stockpile of information. When something's not there that should be, I immediately became concerned." The official added, "That's why I came forward."

Seven former government officials and other experts familiar with the Treasury Department's FinCEN database expressed varying levels of concern about the missing reports. Some speculated that FinCEN may have restricted access to the reports due to the sensitivity of their content, which they said would be nearly unprecedented. One called the possibility "explosive." A record-retention policy on FinCEN's Web site notes that false documents or those "deemed highly sensitive" and "requiring strict limitations on access" may be transferred out of its master file. Nevertheless, a former prosecutor who spent years working with the FinCEN database said that she knew of no mechanism for restricting access to SARs. She speculated that FinCEN may have taken the extraordinary step of restricting access "because of the highly sensitive nature of a potential investigation. It may be that someone reached out to FinCEN to ask to limit disclosure of certain SARs related to an investigation, whether it was the special counsel or the Southern District of New York."
  • Last Edit: May 16, 2018, 03:57:25 PM by meepmeep

Re: The Trump Kompromat Fact: Whereby we discuss the realness of the piss tape
Reply #3494
That happens to me pretty regularly with my Nyt, WaPo, and New Yorker accounts.

Re: The Trump Kompromat Fact: Whereby we discuss the realness of the piss tape
Reply #3495

  • meepmeep
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Re: The Trump Kompromat Fact: Whereby we discuss the realness of the piss tape
Reply #3496
tfw the brain worms decide to have some fun with you


  • Faid
Re: The Trump Kompromat Fact: Whereby we discuss the realness of the piss tape
Reply #3497
oh boy



Also lol the New Yorker's site continues to be so fucking terrible that even though I'm subscribed and LOGGED THE FUCK IN, it still told me I have 4 articles left this month.

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The report also refers to two previous suspicious-activity reports, or SARs, that the bank had filed, which documented even larger flows of questionable money into Cohen's account. Those two reports detail more than three million dollars in additional transactions--triple the amount in the report released last week. Which individuals or corporations were involved remains a mystery. But, according to the official who leaked the report, these SARs were absent from the database maintained by the Treasury Department's Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, or FinCEN. The official, who has spent a career in law enforcement, told me, "I have never seen something pulled off the system. . . . That system is a safeguard for the bank. It's a stockpile of information. When something's not there that should be, I immediately became concerned." The official added, "That's why I came forward."

Seven former government officials and other experts familiar with the Treasury Department's FinCEN database expressed varying levels of concern about the missing reports. Some speculated that FinCEN may have restricted access to the reports due to the sensitivity of their content, which they said would be nearly unprecedented. One called the possibility "explosive." A record-retention policy on FinCEN's Web site notes that false documents or those "deemed highly sensitive" and "requiring strict limitations on access" may be transferred out of its master file. Nevertheless, a former prosecutor who spent years working with the FinCEN database said that she knew of no mechanism for restricting access to SARs. She speculated that FinCEN may have taken the extraordinary step of restricting access "because of the highly sensitive nature of a potential investigation. It may be that someone reached out to FinCEN to ask to limit disclosure of certain SARs related to an investigation, whether it was the special counsel or the Southern District of New York."
Damn. I was hoping those were traces of the Rosneft commission, but it doesn't add up.
Who even made the rule that we cannot group ducks and fish together for the simple reason that they are both aquatic? If I want to group them that way and it serves my purpose then I can jolly well do it however I want to and it is still a nested hierarchy and you can't tell me that it's not.

Re: The Trump Kompromat Fact: Whereby we discuss the realness of the piss tape
Reply #3498
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

  • el jefe
  • asleep till 2020 or 2024
Re: The Trump Kompromat Fact: Whereby we discuss the realness of the piss tape
Reply #3499
538 comparing stats of mueller with other special prosecutor and independent counsel investigations.  pretty awesome chart of indictments and pleas / time

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-muellers-first-year-compares-to-watergate-iran-contra-and-whitewater/