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Old 09-22-2011, 10:53 PM   #1543272  /  #1
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Default Alabama city police chief tries to reform inmates in church

Here's another Late-breaking News Release from the Freedom FROM Religion Foundation (FFRF).

Some DAMNED Alabama Southern-Fried Police Chief - AS is TYPICAL for a stereotypical Small Town, Southern Police Chief - Mixes the Strong-Arm of the Law - with Church ENTANGLEMENT !!!!!!!
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The Freedom From Religion Foundation has sent a strong letter of protest on behalf of a local complainant to Bay Minette, Ala. judges, regarding an off-the-wall proposal from Bay Minette Police Chief Mike Rowland to have first-time offenders attend church services in lieu of incarceration. FFRF issued the letter to Municipal Judge Bayless Biles, State Circuit Court Judge James Reid and State District Court Judge Jody Bishop.

FFRF Staff Attorney Patrick Elliott's Sept. 22 letter notes that Rowland is working to implement a program called "Operation ROC: Restore Our Community," which would put offenders under the supervision of pastors and require them to attend church services for one year, in place of jail.

"We want to teach them that they're valuable, that God has a plan, God has a purpose. That they can be successful, that they possibly can become the person that God wants them to become," Pastor Bruce Hooks said in a Local 15 (Mobile, Ala.) news report. The report said 56 churches have already agreed to sponsor the program.

"This proposal is an egregious violation of the First Amendment. It is a bedrock principle of constitutional law that the state cannot coerce citizens to participate in religious practices," noted Elliott. As the Supreme Court states in Lee v. Weisman, "It is beyond dispute that, at a minimum, the Constitution guarantees that government may not coerce anyone to support or participate in religion or its exercise, or otherwise act in a way which 'establishes a religion or religious faith, or tends to do so.'"

By instituting this program, Bay Minette would also be in violation of the Alabama Constitution Article 1, Elliott said. "... no preference shall be given by law to any religious sect, society, denomination, or mode of worship; that no one shall be compelled by law to attend any place of worship."


"Even those persons in your community who have violated the law cannot be subject to violations of their right of conscience. They must always be free to choose wether or not to attend church without government interference," noted Elliot.
It looks like THIS Southern-Fried Police Chief - FAILS to UNDERSTAND - the LAW - both Federal and State !!!!!!!!

It also looks like this Southern-Fried Police Chief - is trying to SAVE MONEY - by NOT incarcerating Law Breakers !!!!! THAT'S - just a CHEAP-ASSED Southern-Fried GIMMICK !!!!!
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Old 09-22-2011, 11:22 PM   #1543306  /  #2
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What if the offender already goes to church regularly? Isn't that basically just letting church-goers off with no punishment, because they go to church?
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Old 09-28-2011, 12:58 AM   #1548402  /  #4
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Old 09-28-2011, 12:59 AM   #1548407  /  #5
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No one is being compelled to go to church.

btw, hi boba haven't seen you in awhile!
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Old 09-28-2011, 01:02 AM   #1548411  /  #6
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Hi, guys. jesus died for your sins.
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Old 09-28-2011, 02:27 AM   #1548452  /  #7
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No one is being compelled to go to church.

btw, hi boba haven't seen you in awhile!
Hi ksen,

I've been around, doin' my thing - just look at the number of recent threads that I've started over in R&A ! (The most recent one, about the folk over at AiG having their SUMMER 2012 VBS materials ready to go - IS a corker ! I receive AiG promotional material, all the time - and I was blown away that they have 2012 VBS covered - this early !!!) !

Although the Police Chief isn't exactly forcing inmates to go to Church - the prospect of hangin' out in a Jail Cell - versus hangin' out at a Church service - could be attractive to some folk (although personally, I would see little difference between the two).

NOW, if the Police Chief were willing to let inmates to have a choice between hangin' out in a Jail Cell - versus hangin' out with a bunch of True-Blue Atheist agitators (I'm trying to keep the analogy balanced and equal) - I believe that a number of folk would be more than willing to hang out with Atheist agitators !!!!!!

This analogy, ksen, still wouldn't be a reasonable way to deal with folk who find themselves in a Jail Cell - because it doesn't really deal with the issue of WHY the person would be in a Jail Cell, in the first place !!!!

We must be very clear, Within the Leading Democracy of the Free World (or so the Propaganda has it) of a Separation of the execution of the law - from other elements of the Social Contract. I realize, ksen, that this Social Contract thingy places a Whole New Light upon the issue raised within the OP of this thread. Thus, to NOT derail THIS thread, the discussion of the Social Contract, within the parameters of the Leading Democracy of the Free World (again, a Propaganda issue is in play, with this phrase) vis-a-vis the execution of the law - would be more properly dealt with in a DIFFERENT thread.

Just sayin'

Nice to see you weigh in on a thread that I started, ksen !!!!!!
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Check out THIS - http://www2.wkrg.com/news/2011/sep/2...ld-ar-2473884/ - video From WKRG - News Chanel 5 - Mobile, Ala !!!!!

Police Chief NAMED - "Worst Person in the World" !!!!!!

I love the ending in the video - where the Commentator - EQUATES - "Going to Church for a year IS Just like going yo JAIL - for a misdemeanor" !!!!!
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Old 09-29-2011, 12:30 AM   #1549641  /  #9
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Hi, guys. jesus died for your sins.
I only love the baby Jesus
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Old 09-29-2011, 01:18 AM   #1549664  /  #10
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Hi, guys. jesus died for your sins.
I only love the baby Jesus
There's SOMETHING - in your NEW Avatar, DB - that gives an added meaning to your latest post !!!!!!!:
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Old 09-29-2011, 01:28 AM   #1549675  /  #11
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Old 09-29-2011, 02:16 AM   #1549728  /  #12
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I love it when the retards pretend to be one of the lutz kids.
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:39 PM   #1551677  /  #13
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why is it lutz
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Old 10-01-2011, 04:11 AM   #1551792  /  #14
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See, sanshou - Bart ain't got a clue !!!!!!
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Old 10-01-2011, 04:53 AM   #1551834  /  #15
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"lutz" is a corruption of "lulz" which is a corruption of "lol". It was first used by JEROME DA GNOME while he was complaining about the lulzers, even though he's a bigger lulzer than anyone originally from RnR.

I just like "lutz crew" because I imagine us like this:

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"lutz" is a corruption of "lulz" which is a corruption of "lol". It was first used by JEROME DA GNOME while he was complaining about the lulzers, even though he's a bigger lulzer than anyone originally from RnR.

I just like "lutz crew" because I imagine us like this:

I am the ugly one.
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Old 10-01-2011, 10:24 PM   #1552399  /  #17
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I just like "lutz crew" because I imagine us like this:


nah, they're genuinely funny.
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"lutz" is a corruption of "lulz" which is a corruption of "lol". It was first used by JEROME DA GNOME while he was complaining about the lulzers, even though he's a bigger lulzer than anyone originally from RnR.

I just like "lutz crew" because I imagine us like this:

Yup, Bart - THAT is a pretty LAME crew - that you have in mind !!!!!

I'm glad to see that YOU - self identify - with that lame-ness !!!!
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Dude I'd totally be a SNL writer.
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Dude I'd totally be a SNL writer.
Ah - WANNA-BE Dude - Saturday Night Live - lost it - when they lost John B and Gilda R !!!!!!!

Suck it up - and Weep !!!
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Well if I'm lame and SNL is lame...
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Well if I'm lame and SNL is lame...
BOTH - are true, BOY Bart !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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That's it! I'm going to be a writer for SNL!

Thanks for believing in me, Bob!
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That's it! I'm going to be a writer for SNL!

Thanks for believing in me, Bob!
Good luck, BOY Bart

Let me know when THIS bubble busts - and you start crying - again - BOY Bart !!!!!
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