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Old 04-26-2012, 02:40 AM   #1790004  /  #51
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I had a 4' iguana that was mutated gray and orange.
Interesting. Mine was a bright green at a young age, and then has since turned to an orangey colour with a bit of light green.

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its circa 3ft by 2.5ft by 2ft terrarium
They will mostly grow to their inclosure. If you want him big you will need to provide a large place for him to live.

I had a friend that set-up and entire living room (he was a bachelor) for a savannah monitor. There was only room to walk to the kitchen and a small place for seating. That beast got to just under 4' and was as tame as a dog. He also converted a bedroom for a red-tailed boa, tree branches positioned about the room, so cool, it got over 8'. These were both raised from babies.

Mine is as tame as a cat! he even uses the cat litter box. there comes a point with these large lizards as well, where you've got to have an open enclosure so they can walk about.
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:50 AM   #1790010  /  #52
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Just be careful not to overcalcify your animals, because that can be just as bad.
Feeding mice will solve this problem.
Feeding mice is a good way to give your lizard obesity problems.
it's true, it's more of a snack every now and then.. 1 every 2-3 months or so.
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I had a 4' iguana that was mutated gray and orange.
Interesting. Mine was a bright green at a young age, and then has since turned to an orangey colour with a bit of light green.
I didn't get him until he was already big, so I don't know what he was young. The color was a full grey with muted orange streaks/spots that were uniform.
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thank you every one, i fucking love this place for the breadth of advice you can get.

i did wonder about replacing the in tank pool with a removable one, the guy i got Rango from just used a shopvac to empty the pool side so i was going to do the same, it seemed a quick and easy way to clean the tank out pretty well. Certainly when we upgrade the enclosure i was going to switch to a removable one. I am already half assedly sketching out some plans to make a bigger screened terrarium for him/her a down the line

(thats another question, at what point can you tell lizard gender, and how? ther seems to be a big difference in eventual size with male vs female dragons so it'd be good to know which we have. )

so far this guy seems to eat purely when hes hungry, this morning was the first time he took a wax worm from me and ate it there and then. Last few days hes gone back to it when (he thinks) no one is watching. i think he just acclimatised properly to the change in environment, he seemed much more active yesterday evening, was climbing and swimming galore. seems "happy"

he also let me stroke him last night and wasnt too skitty. he was basking on his log, i was very gentle and slow and he was okay with it. sat there for a minute or two till he got bored then went for a swim. i was stoked with that.

i read that the bumping off the side of the tank (which he does do sometimes during his swims) can be due to reflections, and was wondering about putting some plants around the periphery to prevent that.

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yeah, that and also i underestimated how long the wee bugger can just sit under the water. i thought he'd died but he was just chillin, eventually woke up from what looked like a little doze and went on about his business.


anyway, you guys and gals rock, thank you so much. i'll be back with pics.
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Old 04-26-2012, 09:25 PM   #1791010  /  #55
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i'll be back with pics.
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Old 04-26-2012, 09:36 PM   #1791027  /  #56
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ah cool. there is a woman i work with who breeds them.
The guy i bought Rango off had a massive tank with some coral snakes i there.
Presumably the false ones (not the poisonous variety)?
Those would be king snakes, no?
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ah cool. there is a woman i work with who breeds them.
The guy i bought Rango off had a massive tank with some coral snakes i there.
Presumably the false ones (not the poisonous variety)?
Those would be king snakes, no?
As well as other non-lampropeltine colubrids. There's a whole bunch of snakes that use the red-black-sometimes yellow/white banding schema. Even some super-basal snakes like Anilius do this. Wouldnt be surprised if there are lizards, salamanders, or myriapods that also exploit this color pattern to dissuade predators.
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Old 04-27-2012, 07:09 PM   #1792038  /  #58
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(thats another question, at what point can you tell lizard gender, and how? ther seems to be a big difference in eventual size with male vs female dragons so it'd be good to know which we have. )
i know that with most lizards after they age a bit, if you turn them over - take a look at the underside of their thighs near their vent. on male lizards, their femoral pores (hormonal secretion pores) will be more pronounced in males and larger.

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..same thing with water dragons.


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you probably know this, but one other thing - if you are to put a piece of wood or rock that you've gotten from outside, boil it in water. Or place it in the oven. To make sure you get rid of any mites/ticks that may be on it.

One simple solution to this, if they ever do get a mite problem - smear mineral oil (it's not bad for them) over their bodies, it will suffocate the mites.
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Old 05-03-2012, 03:31 PM   #1797523  /  #59
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cool thanks,

i took some pics but havent uploaded them yet, i just made a custom fitted lighting canopy with 4 outlets, the ones i got with it were ugly and ineffective.
basically i did this. but rather than hanging its fitted into a frame (or will be, its kind propped up at the moment)

the wee guy seems happy, he took a wax worm from my fingers yesterday for the first time, loves his crickets, and seems nice and active, at times anyway.

i dont have a handle on any sort of schedule for feeding, he seems to gorge and then fast which i guess is pretty normal for a lot of reptiles. i just make sure there are a couple of crickets hopping around in his enclosure at all times for when he does get hungry.
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Old 05-20-2012, 09:42 AM   #1811648  /  #60
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that's a really good sign that he took from your hands.

How are things going now?


..also agreed that reptiles can fast for a long time, with no problems. they usually gorge until they are full. errmm, one problem i used to have with my bearded dragon, was that if there were crickets left in the tank and he didn't eat them.. i'd look at him mid night or so, and see the crickets (3-4) of them up around his head, chewing at his scales while he slept. So. i don't know if they'd do the same with your water dragon. But it's always best (i think) to give a bit at a time and not have any more straying around the tank (if you can help it).
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i dont ever put more than 2 in at one time, and usually one of them is gone almost immediately, i heard they can gang up on the little lizards. i can kinda tell now when hes actually up for food, he has a particular kind of alertness when i open the tank.

hes shedding like crazy at the moment, his brighter green is really coming through.
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so yesterday i was feeding the little guy and he took a mealworm from my fingers and then jumped on the back of my hand. sat there whilst i picked him up and seemed really quite happy.
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Hey it's that guy from the insurance ads!

Remember when they turned the cavemen into a tv show? Man, that was a mistake.
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you lost me there i'm afraid. I dont have TV so know not of these "guys from the insurance ads" without a bit more detail.
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you lost me there i'm afraid. I dont have TV so know not of these "guys from the insurance ads" without a bit more detail.
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Old 06-04-2012, 06:53 PM   #1823096  /  #67
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What happened to your lizard?
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hes awesome thanks. she is growing well. has grown at least a couple inches in total length and filled out a bit, starting to get the crest forming on the nape of the neck and down the spine, and eating crickets and mealworms like they are running out in 5 minutes time. hes so far climbed on my hand/forearm and sat there for a few seconds, a couple of times. and often takes food from me.

that said, at the moment shes a bit pissed off with me because i had to grab him when she made a run for it during tank cleaning. sulky little bugger hasn't taken a worm from me since (2 days), but will eat it immediately when i put it down in front of him and back off. the big scary hand must have freaked her a bit, i was gentle but firm, and that was the first time i ever had to actually pick him up. I'm sure she'll get over it.

i shall take some pics and update the thread. and no i dont know the gender yet
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Looking forward to some pics!

How does shedding go?
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Take em' out before the cleaning starts, put em' up in a sunlit window and then clean the case.

Can you imagine how scary it would be if your furniture just started moving around?

They like to shit in water, not likely to shit on the window sill.
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Take em' out before the cleaning starts, put em' up in a sunlit window and then clean the case.

Can you imagine how scary it would be if your furniture just started moving around?

They like to shit in water, not likely to shit on the window sill.
its a rather large 2 sided terrarium and most of his climbing plants are on the terrestrial side, so when i clean the water out he normally just sits in his little vine, perfectly happy. this time however he tried climbing out the open window, its wasnt a biggy, i just had to pick him up and put him back in the tree, but hes sulky now.

i've not had the nerve to let him out yet, i worry he'll find some nook or cranny and get irretrievably lost. i figured once he gets a bit bigger that wont be an issue.

i have started planning his larger enclosure. and intend to make him a little summer house enclosure one the deck, so he can hang outside with us in summer.
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What about a hamster ball? That way you'll KNOW he won't get lost and the critter will get to roam about.
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he doesnt want for space at the moment and i suspect shes already too big for such a thing. (i reckon rango is now about a 10-12 in long, albeit most of it tail)
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