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Old 05-08-2012, 04:42 PM   #1802081  /  #126
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people try to emulate their town games when they are scum, but I think that internally what you think your town game is, and externally what people tend to notice about your town game may not match up very well.
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Old 05-08-2012, 04:46 PM   #1802084  /  #127
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This dependence on someone grabbing attention and leading lynches is overall probably not good for TRTown. It would be better if most of town were independently coming to the right conclusions about who to lynch.
The problem I see is that most days for a TRTown go like this. Place vote on whoever you think is scummiest at start of day, when end of day comes place vote on scummiest person who might actually get lynched.

This isn't horrible for lynching scum, but lots of people are missing out on the middle step where you try and reach out and make consensus with the other town members to try and have a voice on who ends up on the might actually get lynched list. Gib is probably the single best example of someone doing it right in this regard.
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Old 05-08-2012, 05:08 PM   #1802095  /  #128
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Not too long ago, visibly going about the business of developing consensus was considered scummy-looking. I think it still is considered scummy-looking by some players.
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Old 05-08-2012, 05:19 PM   #1802108  /  #129
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Yes, you have to be careful how you go about even approaching other players for consensus, because it can be instantly described as 'followy'.
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Old 05-08-2012, 05:23 PM   #1802117  /  #130
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yeah, I think I remember gib being called followy (by scum, HAH!) in the breaking bad game.

If so, that's p funny, because I changed my lynch vote based on his read/research on daphne on day 2.
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Old 05-08-2012, 05:40 PM   #1802129  /  #131
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yeah, I think I remember gib being called followy (by scum, HAH!) in the breaking bad game.

If so, that's p funny, because I changed my lynch vote based on his read/research on daphne on day 2.
That game is going to be stuck in my memory for years as possibly my worst scum act ever. It wasn't just you being right on target. I never got back up after slipping catastrophically D1. Totally demoralized.
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Old 05-09-2012, 01:27 AM   #1802521  /  #132
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who was scum?
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Old 05-09-2012, 01:32 AM   #1802526  /  #133
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Praying i thought we agreed its only scum who dont read thr34dz

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Old 05-09-2012, 01:43 AM   #1802531  /  #134
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you caught me gandy I did not read this thread, so spill it damn it!
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:15 AM   #1802542  /  #135
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yeah, I think I remember gib being called followy (by scum, HAH!) in the breaking bad game.

If so, that's p funny, because I changed my lynch vote based on his read/research on daphne on day 2.
That game is going to be stuck in my memory for years as possibly my worst scum act ever. It wasn't just you being right on target. I never got back up after slipping catastrophically D1. Totally demoralized.
That really was probably the worst game for scum. I think a combination of Raven (and gib) being on top of things.. and possibly scum allowing themselves to team up too much? i know for that game, i allowed myself to get too paranoid over a single vote.
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:46 AM   #1802552  /  #136
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I learned quite a lot. I have a long way to go to become a good player, but I will persevere.


best thing you did was clear me. all future seers take note.
Longhair, don't ever clear Ksen again, he sucks at picking teams.
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:57 AM   #1802553  /  #137
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in one post you nailed 3 out of 4 scum. was that you or Aden?
Aden was a lot of help. I'll say my picks were mostly due to his counsel.
No, you had them down yourself. I still thought diva was town. You're a good player Dan. Just back up your suspicions with examples and ask lots of questions.
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:58 AM   #1802556  /  #138
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you caught me gandy I did not read this thread, so spill it damn it!
Ok fine scum was ksen jerome gib and sanshop

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Old 05-09-2012, 03:12 AM   #1802562  /  #139
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lol @ the mentors blaming their charges.
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Old 05-09-2012, 03:28 AM   #1802571  /  #140
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Old 05-09-2012, 03:44 AM   #1802575  /  #141
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lol @ the mentors blaming their charges.
Yes, that is exactly what is happening here.
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Old 05-09-2012, 03:58 AM   #1802579  /  #142
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Jer0me i will ment0r u next game same conditionz as teeth

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Old 05-09-2012, 12:09 PM   #1802651  /  #143
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best thing you did was clear me. all future seers take note.
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I did name gandalf and diva as scum.
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Old 05-09-2012, 01:25 PM   #1802675  /  #144
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Why were you following Gandalf's vote?
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Old 05-09-2012, 01:29 PM   #1802677  /  #145
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Why were you following Gandalf's vote?
where on earth did you get the bright idea to lynch the outed uncontested speshuls?
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The thing that stood out to me was that no one really stepped up and organized town.
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not really. you didn't have to grab attention. town was looking for someone to follow at times.

I think bart rob played a very good town game. He wasn't buying into the sanshou lynch idea at all. that bandwagon was very retarded looking given who else was still in the game after scum had so many NK opportunities.
I disagree, I think he did, he just wasn't around in the evenings. I was and I tried to get town to go in a different direction than where he was going in case it came down to a me or him lynch. The disorganisation was intentional and I was more worried that town would pick up on that we had town reads on each other but weren't working together. at all.
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Old 05-09-2012, 03:03 PM   #1802731  /  #147
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not really. you didn't have to grab attention. town was looking for someone to follow at times.

I think bart rob played a very good town game. He wasn't buying into the sanshou lynch idea at all. that bandwagon was very retarded looking given who else was still in the game after scum had so many NK opportunities.
I disagree, I think he did, he just wasn't around in the evenings. I was and I tried to get town to go in a different direction than where he was going in case it came down to a me or him lynch. The disorganisation was intentional and I was more worried that town would pick up on that we had town reads on each other but weren't working together. at all.
that happens when i get town reads on dean jer0me teeth etc so ur in gd company!!

eta altho i shoulda called u retarded itt

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not really. you didn't have to grab attention. town was looking for someone to follow at times.

I think bart rob played a very good town game. He wasn't buying into the sanshou lynch idea at all. that bandwagon was very retarded looking given who else was still in the game after scum had so many NK opportunities.
I disagree, I think he did, he just wasn't around in the evenings. I was and I tried to get town to go in a different direction than where he was going in case it came down to a me or him lynch. The disorganisation was intentional and I was more worried that town would pick up on that we had town reads on each other but weren't working together. at all.
the bolded is key. really key.

guys think about what you usually do when you have a town read on someone you know has good instincts and strategy when they are town.

It was missing in several interactions in this game.
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