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Old 02-05-2010, 09:09 AM   #797712  /  #1
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Default Fast for a while, then we'll lock you in a sauna... sound good?

Apparently, not so great an idea.
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Old 02-05-2010, 09:24 AM   #797717  /  #2
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Wow. Nothing like a self appointed self-help guru to lead people astray. By the way, I am of Finnish decent and have identified other people of Finnish decent by the way they pronounce the word "sauna".
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Old 02-05-2010, 09:29 AM   #797718  /  #3
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Wow. Nothing like a self appointed self-help guru to lead people astray. By the way, I am of Finnish decent and have identified other people of Finnish decent by the way they pronounce the word "sauna".
In your Finnish view, what does sauna rhyme with?
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Old 02-05-2010, 09:38 AM   #797721  /  #4
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Wow. Nothing like a self appointed self-help guru to lead people astray. By the way, I am of Finnish decent and have identified other people of Finnish decent by the way they pronounce the word "sauna".
In your Finnish view, what does sauna rhyme with?
Nope, that is not how the game is played. How do you think it is pronounced. The word is of Finnish origin.

ETA: I shouldn't give up the proper pronunciation anyway, it is sort of like a secret lodge handshake
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Old 02-05-2010, 09:52 AM   #797724  /  #5
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Wow. Nothing like a self appointed self-help guru to lead people astray. By the way, I am of Finnish decent and have identified other people of Finnish decent by the way they pronounce the word "sauna".
In your Finnish view, what does sauna rhyme with?
Nope, that is not how the game is played. How do you think it is pronounced. The word is of Finnish origin.

ETA: I shouldn't give up the proper pronunciation anyway, it is sort of like a secret lodge handshake
You don't have to share with me your secrets. Do know, however, that I will die someday never knowing, my last thoughts almost certainly upon the mystery of the pronunciation of the word which I've dwelled upon for decades. If you can live with that, so can I.

My people are atypical in American pronunciation. In my view, sauna should rhyme with "wanna", an abbreviation of "I want to", or "gonna", an abbreviation of "going to", those being the only words that comes to mind that rhymes with sauna.
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Old 02-05-2010, 09:58 AM   #797725  /  #6
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Alright, I will let the cat out of the bag. The proper pronunciation of sauna makes note that the first two vowels form a diphthong. So it should be more like sow (a female pig, not scattering seed) na. Though if you are properly Finnish you will hit the "oo" sound from the u even a bit more heavily than that.

Another ETA: I was born and raised in Minnesota, but where I heard the people properly pronouncing sauna was in Washington state, so it was not just as local argot.
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:04 AM   #797727  /  #7
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Alright, I will let the cat out of the bag. The proper pronunciation of sauna makes note that the first two vowels form a diphthong. So it should be more like sow (a female pig, not scattering seed) na. Though if you are properly Finnish you will hit the "oo" sound from the u even a bit more heavily than that.
That knowledge will make my acceptance of my own mortality that much easier. Thank you.
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:11 AM   #797729  /  #8
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No problem Spode. A little anecdote. A cousin of mine who grew up in a very Finnish part of Minnesota, that is like my where my grandparents on my mothers side lived everybody had a sauna long before they had indoor plumbing, was visiting another Aunt and Uncle of mine in southern Minnesota. When he was back at his parents place he said "I don't know how clean they are, they didn't even have a sauna". For Finnish people a sauna is how you get clean, forget about a bath or a shower.
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Old 02-05-2010, 12:10 PM   #797762  /  #9
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I don't know if that sounds good or not, but I do know that Sunday is my birthday.
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Old 02-05-2010, 12:14 PM   #797764  /  #10
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You shouldn't keep secrets like that, Bart. Happy birthday for Sunday, as I probably won't be around.
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Old 02-05-2010, 12:16 PM   #797765  /  #11
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Old 02-05-2010, 01:34 PM   #797806  /  #12
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Alright, I will let the cat out of the bag. The proper pronunciation of sauna makes note that the first two vowels form a diphthong. So it should be more like sow (a female pig, not scattering seed) na. Though if you are properly Finnish you will hit the "oo" sound from the u even a bit more heavily than that.

Another ETA: I was born and raised in Minnesota, but where I heard the people properly pronouncing sauna was in Washington state, so it was not just as local argot.
that's how italians would pronounce that too. your test is flawed.
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Old 02-05-2010, 03:32 PM   #798002  /  #13
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My pronunciation is actually somewhere between the two. For me, the first syllable of "sauna" is "saw", with a bit of a dipthong where the w/u is, but not quite as pronounced as the Finnish "soww".

I love accents. [/derail]

Back on the article, I love how it ended:

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On Wednesday, John Curtis, of Asheville, N.C., a critic of the $11.3-billion self-help industry and founder of the website Americans Against Self-Help Fraud, welcomed the news of Ray's arrest and said he hoped it would prompt new scrutiny of an industry that he says preys on troubled people.

"I see it as the proverbial 9/11 for the self-help movement," Curtis said. "I hope we'll see a greater degree of accountability."
Amen! This tool very badly needs to be locked into his own private sauna - in jail.
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Old 02-05-2010, 05:56 PM   #798197  /  #14
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Alright, I will let the cat out of the bag. The proper pronunciation of sauna makes note that the first two vowels form a diphthong. So it should be more like sow (a female pig, not scattering seed) na. Though if you are properly Finnish you will hit the "oo" sound from the u even a bit more heavily than that.

Another ETA: I was born and raised in Minnesota, but where I heard the people properly pronouncing sauna was in Washington state, so it was not just as local argot.
that's how italians would pronounce that too. your test is flawed.
It was a bit tongue in cheek, and I am sure some of the other countries with a Latin base for their language would pronounce it that way, or close to it, as well. But for English speakers it is a fairly good test.
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Old 02-05-2010, 06:09 PM   #798216  /  #15
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Sedona was the hippy central town that they had in Season 1 of Bullshit. Some fucking guru chick helping people discover their inner coyote with the help vortices and ley lines IIRC, and IIRC the reflexology dude was Sedona based too. The whole town looked like a tie dyed new age wankfest

I think i have a fine candidate site for the next batch of nuclear tests y'know. Beats blowing up some pretty coral reef in the pacific.
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Old 02-06-2010, 04:29 AM   #798997  /  #16
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The area is very beautiful, it's just temporarily being ruined by some humans. It will still be beautiful after they are gone.
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Old 02-06-2010, 04:43 AM   #799001  /  #17
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This news story amazed me. People were willing to pay almost $10,000.00 to suffer and starve in order to achieve some kind of imaginary magical power or something. The organizers didn't even have to pay for food! How can I meet some of these wealthy and gullible people? I would not hurt them, but I could bestow some magic powers for only about $5000.00 per person, and I'll make lunch, too.
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