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Old 04-07-2011, 03:39 PM   #1369363  /  #1
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http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...bia-trade-deal

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President Obama broke with union supporters [again] Wednesday over a controversial trade agreement with Colombia that is vociferously opposed by organized labor.

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The Colombia agreement is a high priority for Republicans, who had threatened to hold up a trade deal with South Korea without a commitment on Colombia from the administration.
Sweet, piss off your labor supporters to appease your political opponenents. This will be the turning point to Republicans stopping their smearing of the President. I'm sure of it!

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In his State of the Union address last year, Obama vowed to double exports within five years, and the deals are key to that agenda.
Huh, who knew he meant exporting jobs?
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Old 04-07-2011, 03:42 PM   #1369366  /  #2
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Old 04-07-2011, 04:18 PM   #1369389  /  #3
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President Obama broke with union supporters [again] Wednesday over a controversial trade agreement with Colombia that is vociferously opposed by organized labor.

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The Colombia agreement is a high priority for Republicans, who had threatened to hold up a trade deal with South Korea without a commitment on Colombia from the administration.
Sweet, piss off your labor supporters to appease your political opponenents. This will be the turning point to Republicans stopping their smearing of the President. I'm sure of it!

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In his State of the Union address last year, Obama vowed to double exports within five years, and the deals are key to that agenda.
Huh, who knew he meant exporting jobs?
Why would they be complaining? The article itself states that Colombian goods only have an average .1% tariff when entering the US, but US goods entering Colombia have an average 15% tariff. Reducing the tariff for stuff entering Colombia will make importing from the US more appealing, and thus will drive manufacturing in the US.
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Old 04-07-2011, 04:23 PM   #1369400  /  #4
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shut up nitrous the unions have spoken

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Old 04-07-2011, 05:04 PM   #1369438  /  #5
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I think this is the important sticking point with the unions, based on a quick read.

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The administration announced it would move forward with the deal after agreeing to an “action plan” with Colombia in which that country promises to make changes to its labor laws and improve its record of combating violence against union organizers.
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“The action plan does not go nearly far enough in laying out concrete benchmarks for progress in the areas of violence and impunity, nor does it address many of the ways in which Colombian labor law falls short of international standards,” AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka said in a statement.

He said the action plan would leave the U.S. with “no leverage whatsoever” to enforce its terms once Congress ratified the trade deal.
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The action plan requires Colombia to provide better protections for union leaders and labor organizers, including by sentencing those who threaten union workers with jail sentences of up to five years. It also directs the Colombian National Police to assign 95 full-time judicial police investigators to help prosecute crimes against workers.

Kirk said Colombia would act to approve most of the steps in the action plan before the deal gets a vote in Congress.
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Old 04-07-2011, 05:43 PM   #1369506  /  #7
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at "not shitposting"
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Old 04-07-2011, 05:49 PM   #1369519  /  #9
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goddamnit tWe you be nice to ksen. he's trying really hard!
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Get better at what?
Pay attention to tWe and shitshou because they are experts on shitposting.
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Old 04-07-2011, 06:06 PM   #1369558  /  #11
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ooh, a double-meaning. are we seeing a new, wittier ld?
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at "not shitposting"
This isn't a shitpost OP.
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Old 04-07-2011, 06:10 PM   #1369564  /  #13
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Huh, who knew he meant exporting jobs?
Well, this kind of demonstrates that you didn't read and/or comprehend the article you linked to. Which is pretty close to "shitposting", IMO.
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Old 04-07-2011, 06:16 PM   #1369577  /  #15
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This isn't a shitpost OP.
it's pretty awful
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Old 04-07-2011, 06:23 PM   #1369585  /  #16
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Huh, who knew he meant exporting jobs?
Well, this kind of demonstrates that you didn't read and/or comprehend the article you linked to. Which is pretty close to "shitposting", IMO.
Ok, I'll give you that one.

But not the first part of the OP!
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Old 04-07-2011, 06:24 PM   #1369586  /  #17
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You don't have to be so happy about it.
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well the first part of the OP was pretty crappy too, since the agreement is clearly intended to improve matters for labor in columbia, just not to the extent that the AFL CIO would like.

maybe you should skip the whole 'liberal' phase and go straight to 'moderate', ksen
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well the first part of the OP was pretty crappy too, since the agreement is clearly intended to improve matters for labor in columbia, just not to the extent that the AFL CIO would like.

maybe you should skip the whole 'liberal' phase and go straight to 'moderate', ksen
No, I like this side much better than the right-side. Besides, I'm really a Lefty! Except for throwing, I throw with my right hand for whatever reason.

I'm still a baby at this. I've got about 20 years of unlearning to do.
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daap-umop-bnp is right

Coca-Cola Accused of Using Death Squads to Target Union Leaders
http://colombiajournal.org/colombia73.htm

"Three out of every five trade unionists killed in the world are Colombian."
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No, I like this side much better than the right-side. Besides, I'm really a Lefty! Except for throwing, I throw with my right hand for whatever reason.


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"throw"
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that example struck me as interesting as well :thoughtful:
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Actually, I'm the same way. I'm left handed, but right shouldered.

I also have two left feet.
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that example struck me as interesting as well :thoughtful:
If I use the left it feels like I'm cheating.
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